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To keep my wedding secret

76 replies

ItsAllAboutTheParsley · 23/04/2021 23:44

I’m in my 50s and have been with DP for a year. He comes from a large close extended family, I have a small family but we are pretty close.

My issue is - we are getting married in August, first time for both of us. Registry office booked, me, my best friend, him, his brother. That’s it. Lunch booked afterwards, nothing else. We want to be married, not have a big day. It’s just the minimum legal event needed, it is what we want.

His family are mostly in another country and so we thought we’d have a blessing and party there when we can, so my close friends/rellies (10 probably) can come (it’s Europe, cheap flights etc) and all of his (50+) can be there but because of international travel issues we can’t commit to a date.

We don’t want to wait til whenever we can travel to get married but neither do we want this to turn into a big drama and god I know it will.

My mum is sliding into dementia and by Aug may not know who I am, his DPs will want to run the whole thing, my DSis will have ‘opinions’ and expect to be a MoH, etc etc. He’s not dead keen on the religious side of it all and his DM in particular will want all the bells and smells.

So we’re just going to do it, then tell them about the blessing etc and make that the ‘wedding’ they can all have their tuppence worth about. We’ve decided what we want for that and planned most of it, so we’re in a difficult position of some people knowing, but our parents, my siblings etc not.

I’ve had a huge amount of stress over my mum’s health, she’s had cancer then this confusion so every time I think I’ll just tell her she goes off into a delusion. It’s relentless and she can’t cope with change so I’ve not wanted to start talking about how I want to get married at this point in my life especially as she’s got a bit disinhibited and fancies my DP. A very vocal lot. My DSis hasn’t been able to be much practical help but has opinions on what’s to be done for her, as does my aunt - everyone’s a backseat driver.

DP’s had a lot of family drama over a relative and his business, his DM’s low opinion of me, his relocation and career changes and again, everyone’s got a view which they are determined to share - whilst leaving him to do the heavy lifting.

Are we being unreasonable to just want to get married and not worry about mum, my interfering family and his interfering family being there and just have this day for us? I’d rather deal with the fall out after rather than before. Is that fair?

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sykadelic · 23/04/2021 23:56

Keeping it a secret until after it's done, no. Keeping it a secret after that, yes.

You could just send out msg that you're engaged and having a wedding at some point but that it won't be a big hubbub due to the current climate and it not being what you both want. You'll send out a msg after the ceremony so people know and you'll have a gathering at some point when stuffs not so crazy

BackforGood · 24/04/2021 00:08

In your circumstances I don't think you are being unreasonable to plan your wedding like that, BUT, I think IF you are just going to be 4 people, then I don't think you should tell anyone else but the 4 of you before it is all over and done.
I think 'some people knowing and not others' is just inviting bad feeling.

FudgeFlake · 24/04/2021 00:19

Is your DP's brother happy to keep quiet about it until afterwards?

sunflowertulip · 24/04/2021 00:21

I'd be incredibly hurt if my sister had a secret wedding. A friend had a secret wedding and it's caused irreconcilable problems between her and her family (I wasn't that impressed either but less invested than her family so we are still friends, but not particularly close any more.)

Cloisters · 24/04/2021 00:29

We never told anyone at all that we’d got married until a couple of years afterwards. The last thing either of us wanted was any kind of fuss or ‘event’, and when we had to get married for a visa, we chose to prioritise our own wishes. Which were for the legal quickie in jeans followed by tapas with our witnesses.

Cloisters · 24/04/2021 00:31

And it’s never caused the remotest issue with either of our large, close families. Plus I would have absolutely no patience with someone who thinks they have the right to force someone else to have a wedding they don’t want, just so that person can attend.

WorraLiberty · 24/04/2021 00:34

Under those circumstances I think YANBU

Quite why you want to rush into marriage so quickly is beyond me but that's not what you asked.

Jamboree01 · 24/04/2021 00:34

It really wouldn’t bother me but two of my friends both had secret weddings and, as the poster above said, it caused huge long term issues within their families.

Sadly, one of them lost their mother the day after the wedding and there have been suggestions made that it was the shock and heartbreak over the fact that she hadn’t known about the wedding. She has, obviously, really struggled with that.

I don’t think most people were as upset by the fact that they weren’t invited to the ceremony as they were about the secrecy over it.

Maybe just be open and honest? I don’t know. Say that you both just want to get married quietly and you will celebrate with everybody once restrictions are lifted?

memberofthewedding · 24/04/2021 00:37

Go for it. Its your day.

BluebellsGreenbells · 24/04/2021 00:42

We married in secret to a point, we told everyone else after and nobody batted an eyelid - no drama or fall out
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Time are different and I wouldn’t be surprised if more people did this in future, saves a lot of faff and hard earns cash.

Clydesider · 24/04/2021 00:48

I think you have absolutely the right attitude. It's about being married rather than getting married. A marriage rather than a wedding.

Once the formalities are done, you could let everyone know and tell them the party invites will be in the post when current restrictions are eased, allowing you to pick a suitable date.

I don't understand how anyone could moan or complain about this. Surely your families and friends just want you both to be happy. I guess you could let people know you'll be having a very small ceremony when the time is right, still only telling everyone afterwards, if you're worried the secrecy might cause upset.

If I was a relative or friend, I'd just be very happy that you were married in a way that suited you both.

MixedUpFiles · 24/04/2021 01:01

Are you keeping it a secret after it’s done or just until it has happened? You can get away with eloping in the age of Covid. If you get married and don’t tell anyone afterwards, that is when it could get messy

PatrickBatemann · 24/04/2021 02:33

@sunflowertulip

I'd be incredibly hurt if my sister had a secret wedding. A friend had a secret wedding and it's caused irreconcilable problems between her and her family (I wasn't that impressed either but less invested than her family so we are still friends, but not particularly close any more.)
Weird. Why aren't you as close anymore? It's her life, not yours. Hmm
Jamboree01 · 24/04/2021 02:41

Siblings being hurt by it is not weird- families generally share in each other’s joy as a rule so some would find it weird that they were excluded from knowing about it.

I wouldn’t be bothered if any of my friends did it but I would be hurt if one of my children told me they had got married after the fact.

PatrickBatemann · 24/04/2021 03:05

@Jamboree01

Siblings being hurt by it is not weird- families generally share in each other’s joy as a rule so some would find it weird that they were excluded from knowing about it.

I wouldn’t be bothered if any of my friends did it but I would be hurt if one of my children told me they had got married after the fact.

I didn't say the sibling part was weird.
Jamboree01 · 24/04/2021 03:09

What’s weird

londonscalling · 24/04/2021 04:13

I'd be tempted to tell family that you're getting married but due to current circumstances it's going to be a tiny private event and you'll tell them it's happened once it's done!

PatrickBatemann · 24/04/2021 05:07

@Jamboree01

What’s weird
That she wasn't 'impressed' by her friend having a secret wedding, and therefore not being as close to her.

It's not her life. That's what's weird.

Jamboree01 · 24/04/2021 05:14

Oh. Like I said before, the hurt usually stems the fact that people were excluded from knowing about the fact that friends/ family were getting married rather than not being able to go to the wedding.

It would be a bit hurtful if a close friend did it. And by that I mean- yes of course it’s their life and they should do it as they wish- but they don’t need to hide it from those close to them.

JedRambosteen · 24/04/2021 05:22

If you are going to marry in secret, I’d suggest having two entirely random strangers as your witnesses, or non-relatives. My Dad married my stepmother in secret but had her adult daughter and another of her close relatives as the witnesses, then went out to dinner with a small group of her family afterwards to celebrate. He didn’t tell me, my sibling or his parents until several days after. I was very close to my father, or thought I was. I faked a smile and congratulated them, but was heartbroken not to have been considered at all. He’s dead now but it coloured our relationship for the rest of his life. My grandparents and siblings were very upset too. If you’re marrying without family present then marry without any family present so you don’t hurt the ones you have excluded. The truth is he had married with family present, just not our family. It’s not a nice feeling.

Jamboree01 · 24/04/2021 05:27

@JedRambosteen

If you are going to marry in secret, I’d suggest having two entirely random strangers as your witnesses, or non-relatives. My Dad married my stepmother in secret but had her adult daughter and another of her close relatives as the witnesses, then went out to dinner with a small group of her family afterwards to celebrate. He didn’t tell me, my sibling or his parents until several days after. I was very close to my father, or thought I was. I faked a smile and congratulated them, but was heartbroken not to have been considered at all. He’s dead now but it coloured our relationship for the rest of his life. My grandparents and siblings were very upset too. If you’re marrying without family present then marry without any family present so you don’t hurt the ones you have excluded. The truth is he had married with family present, just not our family. It’s not a nice feeling.
That’s the thing. It can cause so much hurt. I would feel the exact same in that situation 💐
JedRambosteen · 24/04/2021 05:34

Thanks Jamboree.

I never told him how much it had upset me, by the way. He died thinking everything was hunkydory. What could I have said that would have changed things? It was a done deal. You may never know how much you have hurt your nearest and dearest.

Onlinedilema · 24/04/2021 05:39

If say to for it op. Sounds great.

Jamboree01 · 24/04/2021 05:42

You’re a better person than me. The fact you didn’t say anything shows how much respect and love you had for him. Wherever he is now, I’m sure he knows it now.

I’d rather have people know what is going on and listen to their opinions than hide it and hurt them x

Cuntryhouse · 24/04/2021 05:48

There's a lot of aggro with families here. You've only been together a year, and a completely abnormal year too. Just wondering why you want to get married so quickly? I'm just worried you're giving away half your assets etc.