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What have you always wanted to know?

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PurleaseSqueeze · 19/04/2021 16:49

I was wondering today whether GPs see other GPs if they are ill? Can anyone tell me? I'm assuming yes as they wouldn't be allowed to prescribe medications for themselves?

What other random things have you always wondered/wanted to know?

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MammaSchwifty · 22/04/2021 14:52

Rather serious question, but what jobs will pay me £35K per year with little training and no degree?

look into project management. you might be able to get a role as a junior project manager and do the training on the job. Seriously, most of them are bloody useless, if you can bring some enthusiasm and competence you will be worth your weight in gold.

The pay range is very broad, so salary could go quite high.

ChristmasSexyTime · 22/04/2021 15:17

*There's an algorithm for generating the numbers. Each of the units (the thingies) has a unique key number, which is fed into the algorithm along with the time to generate the secure code for you to use.

The bank has a computer server that runs the same algorithm and holds a record of all the valid units keys and which customer has them. This enables them to what the number for your thingie should be at a given point in time, and they can check that against the number you supply.*

THANK YOU @DynamoKev I so needed to know that.

What would happen if I just randomly generated loads of codes on the thingy and then tried to use it to access my account? Would it be out of sync with the bank's system and not work? I've always been a bit too scared to test this theory of mine. Grin

Dilbertian · 22/04/2021 15:38

Twin 1 born 31st August 11.59pm, twin 2 born 1st Sept 00.07. This would mean they would be a whole school year apart.

I know the answer to this, as there were such twins in one of my dc's year. The parents were given the option of entering both twins in the same year, so both children went into the 'oldest in year' cohort.

WriteHon · 22/04/2021 15:40

Perhaps someone can help me with this, because I don't want to bother a doctor with it, it's so ridiculous.

Why do I have prolonged bouts of huge yawns? They can last for anything between say ten and over thirty yawns, happen at any time of the day but not always daily, and not necessarily when I'm tired. They are impossible to stifle, and although they rarely happen when I'm in company, I have to excuse myself out of politeness - no-one needs to be faced with a huge, gaping mouth at regular intervals!

The only 'trigger' I can come up with is that they can appear to happen when I change position, i.e. when I get up in the morning or I sit down during the day.

Breathing more deeply from the diaphragm during the bout to try and re-oxygenate has no effect, neither has becoming very active when I start yawning. The only thing I suffer from is heartburn, which I control with diet, but yawning is never mentioned as a symptom for that anyway.

LadyCatStark · 22/04/2021 15:40

I really hope this doesn’t offend anyone but I’d love to know, if 2 members of the same sex go on a first date, who offers to pay?

RonSwansonsChair · 22/04/2021 15:47

Why do I feel the need to yawn every time that I read the word Yawn on this thread?🥱😆

DynamoKev · 22/04/2021 15:56

@ChristmasSexyTime

*There's an algorithm for generating the numbers. Each of the units (the thingies) has a unique key number, which is fed into the algorithm along with the time to generate the secure code for you to use.

The bank has a computer server that runs the same algorithm and holds a record of all the valid units keys and which customer has them. This enables them to what the number for your thingie should be at a given point in time, and they can check that against the number you supply.*

THANK YOU @DynamoKev I so needed to know that.

What would happen if I just randomly generated loads of codes on the thingy and then tried to use it to access my account? Would it be out of sync with the bank's system and not work? I've always been a bit too scared to test this theory of mine. Grin

Not sure in understand the question. On the ones I've used, you can only generate one code at a time - that stays on screen until it expires (30 seconds for my bank). After that the code is no longer valid and it won't work. If you key in a code after the 30 seconds it will just be rejected - each code is only valid for the 30 second slot. So, no just generating a load of codes and then trying them wouldn't work. Keep in mind that in most cases you need other information as well - so access to your account doesn't rely totally on the access code generated, it's that plus other things. Security folk always talk about different levels so the code generator isn't like a password you can memorise - and it is also a physical thing that has to be in your possession.
Penners99 · 22/04/2021 16:02

I have always wanted to know next week’s lottery numbers.

Siepie · 22/04/2021 16:14

The bank has a computer server that runs the same algorithm and holds a record of all the valid units keys and which customer has them. This enables them to what the number for your thingie should be at a given point in time, and they can check that against the number you supply.

I don't think this can be true. My bank has a basket of card readers on the counter, and you can just grab another one. DP and I have three between us, used interchangeably with no issues. They're not linked to a specific card or account.

SimonJT · 22/04/2021 16:18

@LadyCatStark

I really hope this doesn’t offend anyone but I’d love to know, if 2 members of the same sex go on a first date, who offers to pay?
You both pay, anyone not paying on a date (including straight people) are tight.
DynamoKev · 22/04/2021 16:46

@Siepie

The bank has a computer server that runs the same algorithm and holds a record of all the valid units keys and which customer has them. This enables them to what the number for your thingie should be at a given point in time, and they can check that against the number you supply.

I don't think this can be true. My bank has a basket of card readers on the counter, and you can just grab another one. DP and I have three between us, used interchangeably with no issues. They're not linked to a specific card or account.

Are you talking about card readers? I was talking about a device that generates a code, not one that reads your card. I think we are talking about different devices.
HeyDemonsItsYaGirl · 22/04/2021 16:55

My card reader generates a code that I enter on the bank's website to prove it's me carrying out a transcation. It works with any card - at least any for that bank - not just the ones issued to me.

FuckingFabulous · 22/04/2021 17:05

I've always wanted to know what an orgasm feels like for a man. Apparently it's not as good as the female orgasm. I want to know.

Marinerscove · 22/04/2021 18:19

@blacksax

What was the best thing before sliced bread?
Betty White! She was born 6 years before the first loaf was sold! :-)
PigletJohn · 22/04/2021 18:28

@HeyDemonsItsYaGirl

My card reader generates a code that I enter on the bank's website to prove it's me carrying out a transcation. It works with any card - at least any for that bank - not just the ones issued to me.
there are various ways of generating a one-time code.

The bank I now use has a card-reader, you insert your card and tell it your PIN, and on the bank website you tell them which card you are using.

So they are both able to run the same algorithm because they both know about the card. The device can then generate a one-time code, using some data it has read from the card, and the bank's machine can check it .

this method uses something you have (the card) and something you know (the PIN) and an algorithm.

You can also generate a one-time code, without a card, for example by inputting a random number into it that the bank tells you; but that would depend on the device being either unique, or having charactertics known to the bank.

If you have accurate, synchronised clocks, you can also generate a one-time code by calculating the algorithm on the date and time.

peachykeenjellybean1981 · 22/04/2021 18:33

I work in the same school as my daughter. She just calls me mum :-)

Butwasitherdriveway · 22/04/2021 18:36

@Merryoldgoat

I read a funny article about your opening question.

A doctor was married to a doctor. One was pregnant and developed severe abdominal pain and thought it was appendicitis. Her Dr husband agreed and they called a different GP at the practice who wasn’t sure but decided on balance that two GPS were probably not wrong so referred to surgeon didn’t question the judgment and removed her perfectly healthy appendix.

So they do seek advice but I expect they aren’t questioned much beyond their own opinions of their diagnosis.

This is pure conjecture.

Why is this funny?
DadDadDad · 22/04/2021 18:54

The bank I now use has a card-reader, you insert your card and tell it your PIN, and on the bank website you tell them which card you are using.

So they are both able to run the same algorithm because they both know about the card. The device can then generate a one-time code, using some data it has read from the card, and the bank's machine can check it .

this method uses something you have (the card) and something you know (the PIN) and an algorithm.

@PigletJohn - I'm familiar with this, but isn't there something missing in this explanation? Every time you log in using this method, the code generated by the device is different, so there must be a time-based element to the algorithm. As you mention, this requires the device to be accurately synchronised, which seems surprising to me (given you can't even check the clock on such simple devices).

The alternative is that (like car key fobs, I believe) is that it works through a sequence of codes known only to the bank and the device (combined with the account number in some way).

PigletJohn · 22/04/2021 19:05

the one I use isn't for logging on, it's for confirming critical transactions. I have already logged on

So I might put in a million-pound payment to General Ochinobo of the Nigerian Notional Bonk, in order to receive shipment of the gold they are holding for me. My bank says (start up your card reader, put in the card, put in the PIN), press the Response button, insert this number x. It will issue a 8-number one-time code. Do not tell anyone this code. Key in this code.

So the device has performed a calculation using the bank's "random" number, plus data recovered from the card, which has been confirmed by me telling it the PIN.

PigletJohn · 22/04/2021 19:06

sorry, I forgot about that step before.

Ulelia · 22/04/2021 19:25

@Whatisthisfuckery

I feel I should correct the misinformation on this thread regarding guide dog poo.

Guide dogs are trained to go on command. Obviously this isn’t a fail safe option and sometimes they just need to go or sometimes they are awkward sods, like if it’s raining, but in a nutshell they shit when told to.

You are supposed to take them to the loo in your designated guide dog toileting place before you work them to decrease the chances of them dropping their arses while working. Again it doen’t work all the time but it generally, if you’re in a good routine, works.

If you can’t see and there is nobody sighted to pick up the poo you have to pick it up yourself, obvioulsy. I’ve had two guide dogs and known loads of guide dog owners and I’ve never come across anybody who runs down the dog’s back while it’s shitting. I’m not sure any dog would tolerate that and I don’t think guide dogs would expect a dog to. Instead you have to have them on the end of the lead, dogs can be trained to go on the end of the lead, and you kind of just have to judge where they are and where the arse is when picking up the shit. It usually involves grovelling around on the ground with a bag on your hand, which isn’t a great look but it’s better than leaving a bloody great dog turd in your wake.

Lastly, the dog doesn’t remain where it shat. this is utter utter bullshit. They are dogs, they tend to skip away from where they’ve dropped the bomb and some of them do the scratching thing with their back feet. My second guide dog used to move around when she was shitting, so her shit would go around in an ark. I had fun trying to find all that, I can tell ya.

Oh, and if you drop a sweet on the bus a guide dog will try to get if if they possibly can. Most guide dogs are labradors, so... Obviously it depends on the dog and the owner, but some dogs will do the commando shuffle, some dogs will blatantly just dive for it, and some of them will sneakily grab it on their way past quick as a flash. If the owner has some sight and is aware that there’s food on the floor they will prevent the dog from getting it, but if you can’t see then that dog is going to get that sweet.

Guide dogs are just dogs. They aren’t special super dogs with special powers, they’re just labradors.

Interesting. I'm looking after a guide dog in training (not in UK) and she has been taught the poo thing-when she's doing it we run a hand down her back so we know which ways she's pointing and if she's done a wee or a poo. She's terrible at going on command though, looks at you with disgust if you suggest it somewhere she's not happy with Smile

Definitely correct about the food.l though! She wouldn't lunge for it beyond the extent of her harness, but anything within reach gets hoovered up faster than you'd think was possible!

Ulelia · 22/04/2021 19:27

www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2019/06/06/well/the-myth-of-period-syncing.amp.html

The period thing really is coincidence. This link explains it well I think.

CrackersDontMatter · 22/04/2021 19:29

@MyOtherProfile

An ex of mine from years ago was at the same school his mum taught at. I can't remember now whether I ever asked him but I wonder now in that situation, would the child have to call them Miss X or could they say Mum?

I've taught colleagues children more than once. They had to call their parents Mr or Mrs in school.

I went to primary school with a boy whose mum was a teacher. She sometimes did supply for our class. She was very strict and always cross. One time he was messing about and she took him out of the class and he got a smacked bum. Disclaimer- this was YEARS ago when smacking was acceptable at home but very definitely not at school.
Siepie · 22/04/2021 19:34

Are you talking about card readers?
I was talking about a device that generates a code, not one that reads your card.
I think we are talking about different devices

Quite possibly - I'm talking about the kind of card reader that you put your card and PIN in, then a code from the online banking, and then it generates a code to confirm your online transaction?

Startingagainperson · 22/04/2021 20:17

@Whatisthisfuckery agreed - guide dogs are also trained to have a toilet routine - regular times each day when they go for a poo to suit the person with the dog - and so less of a chance that an accident will happen outside. Also owners taught to let the dog have a chance to go to the toilet just before say going into an office, shopping centre or cinema, by finding a piece of sidewalk grass or whatever just to be sure they’ve had a chance.

And it’s pretty obvious by how long a dog takes whether it’s done a quick wee or a poo (poo is where much sniffing of the ground and finding a ‘place’ goes on - even on command). A wee is much quicker and generally dogs are less fussy about where they wee. Quite a bit of work goes into making sure accidents don’t happen in the training.

And yes guidedogs will always like food, but it is pretty amazing how well trained they can be in cafes and buses. They will lie down and switch off under the table. However it depends whether they’ve been successful sniffing out crumbs and got away with a bit of floor licking! If they are consistently kept up with their training to not even lick the floor, they will get used to not even trying. Each owner varies really in how they are with the dogs and so each partnership will have a few little things I imagine that slip a bit from training - as has been said, they are dogs after all with strong instincts to eat! Also people do give distract them - including people not thinking with food in their hands so humans arent’ perfect either!