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to believe the Mumsnet High Earners?

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LigPatin · 16/04/2021 10:49

Every time there's a thread about earnings, there's always multiple posters who claim that most people on the thread must be inflating or plain lying about their salaries.

Whilst I recognise that people lie, especially on anonymous forums, I find it quite sad that people prefer to dismiss these posts as lies rather than take inspiration/education from them (or just not care).

I come from a poor background - we never had enough money to the point that food and electricity use was rationed. We weren't on the streets, but that was a looming possibility. We lived (mostly) within the midlands.

I fell into nannying as a career (having dreamed of being a primary school teacher) and my first job was in Kensington. The housekeeper had been gossiping about the rent on the house we worked in - it was £3k a WEEK. This was 2012-ish. I remember wondering how on Earth anyone could afford paying £200k+ a year on rent alone, when - in my mind - earning just £50k was amazingly rich.

I remember walking through Kensington and Knightsbridge and Chelsea and seeing thousands and thousands and thousands of these houses, all huge and grand and all presumably commanding similar rent or sale value than the one I worked in. They were all clearly lived in and used.

Perhaps it was arrogance, or naivety, but I figured that if there were enough people who could afford to pay £1k, £2k, £5k+ a week on rent (or buy million pound houses), then there must be a lot of money out there to be earned, and I couldn't see any reason as to why I couldn't find a way to get a share of that money.

That's sort of how I feel about these earning threads - hundreds of people are posting about their high salaries and instead of scoffing that they must be sad-sacks who hang out on Mumsnet to lie about their lifestyles - I think it's inspiring and encouraging to see so many women out there making amazing money and securing their futures.

FWIW - I was 21 back in Kensington, amazed at the £3k a week rent. I'm coming up to 30 now and my average yearly income is about £120k. I remind myself every day of how lucky I am, and how 21 year old me would have been incredulous. Though I'm, of course, absolutely nowhere near being able to rent a £3k a week house Grin

OP posts:
SomewhereInbetween1 · 16/04/2021 11:04

Wow, it didn't take long AT ALL for the "I've worked hard" comment to come out, as if the average earners don't.

Sparklingbrook · 16/04/2021 11:05

It makes them feel better about themselves, usually whilst saying "oh, I'm on 60k and DH is on 120k and we just about manage" and being completely insensitive to the fact that they are in the top .5% of earners in the UK.

Yes I have seen a bit of that.

Same as the 'How much have you spent on your DC for Christmas ' threads. Who cares?

CocktailOnion · 16/04/2021 11:05

From nanny -120k in 9 years , it's not terribly believable.

LizBennet · 16/04/2021 11:06

I’ve looked 5 times for the point and I’m still missing it 🤷🏼‍♀️

Pedalpushers · 16/04/2021 11:06

I prefer to take inspiration from people based on their specific achievements and what they've done to improve the world or help others. Being inspired by someone's salary is a bit sad.

PegPeople · 16/04/2021 11:07

@CocktailOnion

From nanny -120k in 9 years , it's not terribly believable.
Exactly. Even in London I find the time line sceptical.
ilovesooty · 16/04/2021 11:07

Without MN I wouldn't know that so many people earned these sort of salaries - if they're telling the truth of course. I don't think I know anyone who does.
Mind you, I don't know anyone in real life who's obsessed by salaries like so many people on here are.

Rukaya · 16/04/2021 11:08

From nanny -120k in 9 years , it's not terribly believable

It's easily believable. Also you literally proved OP's point with that answer!
You do understand that you can actually make 120k AS a nanny? Let alone the fact that 9 years is a long time to gain qualifications and experience?

StayingHere · 16/04/2021 11:08

I believe them because threads about money attract people who want to tell everyone how much they've got. Middle and low earners aren't as excited about rushing onto the internet to disclose their average/low income.

UrAWizHarry · 16/04/2021 11:08

From experience, earning that amount of money is a blend of hard work, picking the right industry at the right time and a very large slice of luck.

There are people who sit on their arses, do fuck all and command massive salaries.

There are people out there with 3 degrees who work their arses off and earn a relative pittence.

Don't make the slightly dickheaded assumption that there is a corrolation between hardwork and pay.

otterbaby · 16/04/2021 11:08

Goodness, I was spending my Friday morning thinking how crap my life is, but now I'm feeling so inspired! Off to walk past some multi-million pound houses. Thank you x

Sparklingbrook · 16/04/2021 11:09

There's always an assumption that the posters wouldn't know anyone in RL who are on HUGE salaries, and yet they do. They don't need to be wowed on here by them. Grin

HollowTalk · 16/04/2021 11:10

I do believe most of the salaries on here. There are a hell of a lot of well educated and intelligent women on MN and I find it sexist to think they couldn't be high earners.

There was a thread once called something like "Who earns more than £100K and what do you do?" that was really enlightening.

Sparklingbrook · 16/04/2021 11:10

There are people who sit on their arses, do fuck all and command massive salaries

Very true. Grin

Maggiesfarm · 16/04/2021 11:13

I'm new here, didn't know people talked about their salaries.
It doesn't matter what people earn as long as they manage alright and are happy.

Boeufsurletoit · 16/04/2021 11:15

I believe them OP, and also know a few in real life. But what I think is very sad is that it's possible to work much harder than some of those people do and for much worthier causes without earning much at all.

Ponoka7 · 16/04/2021 11:15

"From experience, earning that amount of money is a blend of hard work, picking the right industry at the right time and a very large slice of luck."

With nepotism and being helped out from the teen years, added in.

That meme is good of the man declaring that no-one had ever helped him. Showing the difference a good start and not having to get a job straight from school and help out with family finances makes. Plus life was slightly easier pre 2011, University was only £4k a term and free before that.

WeAreAllCompletelyFine · 16/04/2021 11:17

I'm not sure about the hard work comments etc as obviously people can work very, very hard or not that hard on all sorts of salaries and in all sorts of different jobs. And what's very hard for one might be fine for another.

That aside though I do tend to believe the high earners posters partly because I usually take posters at face value (more fool me! I'm taking in by every fake post) and partly that we are a high earning household so the figures seem 'normal' to me. We are surrounded by colleagues earning the same or a LOT more so we've become desensitised to lifestyles we would have once found jaw-dropping.

I do find it a bit strange when people automatically dont believe what other posters earn, but I guess there will be a few liars or fantasists out there!

Iheartbed · 16/04/2021 11:18

You kind of ruined your post by putting your salary at the end

IamnotH · 16/04/2021 11:19

Saw this on Twitter this morning. Bet his wife is on MN.

to believe the Mumsnet High Earners?
PegPeople · 16/04/2021 11:19

Well I was curious so I commited the major faux pa's of searching.

I run a recruitment agency for childcare professionals and before that I worked as a Nanny for 10 years.

KeepSmiling89 · 16/04/2021 11:19

Life is about more than just earning a high salary.
I earn less than a quarter of what OP does but I LOVE my job. Also got a job closer to home for better work-life balance. DH is unemployed thanks to COVID and I've been supporting us for the last 2 years. Granted our rent isn't as high as £3k a week (anyone who can afford to RENT for that amount can surely afford to buy elsewhere) though.

I thought this post would be different but, as others say, just another "look at how much money I have!" brag.

Rukaya · 16/04/2021 11:19

There's always an assumption that the posters wouldn't know anyone in RL who are on HUGE salaries, and yet they do. They don't need to be wowed on here by them

Plenty of people don't know anyone in RL on huge salaries and refuse to believe those that say they are on them, they think they must be lying. Even on this thread.

pangolina · 16/04/2021 11:20

I know a few people who earn that or near it, sadly I'm not one of them! 50% of those people are female so yes, I believe them.

Grapewrath · 16/04/2021 11:21

I’m inspired by a lot of people, for a lot of reasons. Their salary is not one of these reasons.
I do think there are some high earners on mumsnet, I also think there are many complete fantasists