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AIBU?

To be beautiful?

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Mindgoneblanko · 14/04/2021 18:37

Aibu to want to be beautiful and to wonder what it must be like to be beautiful and know you’re beautiful? How does it feel, if you are?
Have you been aware of having more opportunities in life, people being nicer to you etc, based on your looks, or has it been detrimental in any way?
For the record, I’m not hideous, ok I’d say or was when younger, but definitely not highly attractive/very pretty/beautiful

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the80sweregreat · 14/04/2021 20:20

Women are so bitchy about other women. It's sad but true! :(

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Sarahtrue11 · 14/04/2021 20:20

Also men seem to think that they are entitled to you because they are attracted to you.

I remember in my good looking years, if a man tried it on with me and I said no, so many of them accused me of "leading them on". Eh, no I just said hello to you.

This actually happened the other way around to me recently. And I was able to see it from the other side! J

ust before Covid, I was at a meetup group. There was a really stunning, tall, blonde, muscled man there, oh he was gorgeous, like a viking. He came over and started talking to me, and I thought he liked me. But I realised later, that he was just being polite, and that it was because I was attracted to HIM, that I thought he liked me. We see what we want to see.

That is how many men were with me when I was younger. They liked me so they thought I liked them.

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Primark872 · 14/04/2021 20:23

Looking good doesn't end at 40, even 50!
Look at J Lo, Halle Berry, Salma Hayek, Jennifer Aniston etc.
Yes they have money but still.
It's so sad how women talk about losing their looks and being in their prime.

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MarieIVanArkleStinks · 14/04/2021 20:24

Physical beauty is fleeting and ageing is a great leveller. I would also consider it a privilege, since it's something my lovely Mum never got to experience. And it's better than the alternative.

Everyone has more to offer and something immeasurably more valuable about them than just their looks. Unfortunately we live in a superficial society that's conditioned to revere surface appearances. If you've lived your life valuing that above all else, then the prospect of it going by the wayside must be pretty daunting.

The problem is in social attitudes. If you're female and attractive you're not supposed to think you're attractive. You're meant so have some feature that you're insecure about, that you hate. If you're not considered attractive (and in any case that's in the eye of the beholder), you're encouraged to think better of yourself.

Poor mental health and low self-esteem are a problem for many people. Encouragement in self-care, being kinder to yourself, loving yourself more, is the stock response. Yet as soon as a woman says she's happy with her looks and considers herself attractive, the pitchforks are out.

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Sarahtrue11 · 14/04/2021 20:26

Yes it is sad. I think that women being nasty to each other, stems a lot from, men being nasty to women. Men devalue women, and then women devalue each other. We are all taught by society to hate women in a way. And I think it is another way that men keep women down, they turn women against each other to an extent.

When women actually support each other and are kind to each other, the whole world will be better for women.

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Cindy87 · 14/04/2021 20:26

I know a very beautiful woman. She is very insecure and her relationships never seem to work out. I think she must know she is beautiful but it doesn't seem to help her insecurity. Meeting her really helped me see it isn't really an answer to anything - I admire beauty and would love a bit more of my own! But it isn't an answer.

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Justri · 14/04/2021 20:27

I am ugly. God knows how i landed myself a husband🙄i would love to be beautiful and feel beautiful at least for a day...would walk everywhere singing 'Pretty woman walking down the street"...☺️

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MarieIVanArkleStinks · 14/04/2021 20:27

@the80sweregreat

Women are so bitchy about other women. It's sad but true! :(


It isn't true. Some men are pretty unpleasant about other men, too. Be they male or female an arsehole is an arsehole.
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Cindy87 · 14/04/2021 20:28

@Sarahtrue11

Yes it is sad. I think that women being nasty to each other, stems a lot from, men being nasty to women. Men devalue women, and then women devalue each other. We are all taught by society to hate women in a way. And I think it is another way that men keep women down, they turn women against each other to an extent.

When women actually support each other and are kind to each other, the whole world will be better for women.

Agree!!!
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amusedtodeath1 · 14/04/2021 20:29

I've been through phases where Men have seemed attracted to me, but a lot of the time they were drunk, so ??? I'm one of those people who looks very ordinary unless I make an effort, I've been told that I "scrub up well". Problem is that I just cannot be arsed with it anymore, it takes up too much time and effort to maintain that look and I realized that I actually don't like the attention. I quite like being invisible.

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Sarahtrue11 · 14/04/2021 20:32

Being pretty definitely doesn't make you happy.

I remember watching a documentary about Marilyn Monroe, with my male friend, and it talked a lot about her depression and sadness, and my friend said "how could she be so sad, she was so beautiful".

But a lot of the reasons she was depressed, were BECAUSE of her beauty.

She had the female relatives that were horrible to her when she was a child and teenager. Her mother hated her and was jealous of her.
she was sexually assaulted from a young age.
And when she was an adult, she had all the movie studio men using her and abusing her, also because she was beautiful.

Being beautiful can cause a lot of problems

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CathyorClaire · 14/04/2021 20:33

Here y'go, OP.

The original 'everything you ever wanted to know about being beautiful but never dared to ask':

www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2124246/Samantha-Brick-downsides-looking-pretty-Why-women-hate-beautiful.html

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Adric · 14/04/2021 20:33

Name changed for this, obvious reasons! But I am one of those awful, conceited people who is aware I am beautiful. Since you asked, OP, here’s the warts and all truth. Will be long!

I knew from very young that I was attractive, women would coo over me at school, people would come up to my mum in the street and comment. My little sister and I use to laugh about it, but I will admit that as I got older I secretly got a bit conceited. I remember being in dance class aged 9 and hearing the head of the school say to my teacher ‘put Adric at the front, it doesn’t matter if she gets the footwork a bit wrong’ for a routine for the end of year performance. I was very smug, remember smugly looking around the class and thinking I was the prettiest, going home and posing in the mirror that night. Definitely a bit of an arrogant little girl.

Then I hit secondary school. By year 8, the attention was relentless: the boys at my school frightened me so badly I would hide in the toilets at lunch. They’d throw things at me in class, slap my arse when walking past, make comments, pass me crude notes. One of the popular, confident boys kept cornering me and making comments that made me very uncomfortable. As a result, I started binge eating, and by year 9 I’d gained 3 stone. The comments didn’t totally stop, but they ceased. For the next 10 years, I was overweight. I would still get attention from men, but much less, so it was easier to handle. I found being overweight very much a safety blanket, and it meant that I was ‘pretty’ but not so much that it drew aggressive attention. As a result, I was able to date. I met my husband, and weighed 14 stone when we got together. He’s very sporty, and in the years following I naturally lost weight again through a combination of feeling comfortable and following his lifestyle.

Because I’d spent a decade getting confident and figuring myself out, I dealt with the attention much better once I got thin. Sad to say, aggressive men also respect a wedding ring more than they respect a woman saying no, so I get comments etc. but they are easy to brush off. I still struggle with the fact that I abused my body for a decade, have stretch marks etc, but I also don’t know if I’d have met my lovely husband if I’d stayed on the path I was on, so I can’t be totally sad about it.

Onto your main question- generally, being beautiful is great. The comments are nice. Random strangers say nice things, women as well as men. I can compare treatment and you are definitely treated better when you’re thin/attractive. Society celebrates me now in a way it didn’t used to, and sometimes I resent that a bit. But I also get discounts from workmen, people (men) are eager to help with things. I get away with stuff more. Women it’s very divided- they are either lovely without me having to try, or horrendously cruel and jealous. Luckily I have enough friends already that it doesn’t matter to me, although it can sting. I also have an older brother, and though I would never say this to him, he treated me a little worse when I was overweight. I will always judge him a bit for that, but then, he’s very good looking too, so is probably more aware of looks as a result. My mum and little sister never changed how they were with me. My sister is very pretty, nicer than both me and my brother, has a lot of friends etc. I often wish I was just normal ‘pretty’ like her, but deep down I know that’s not really true. I value what I have, sadly, and I don’t want to lose it.

Day to day, I like my looks, and it’s nice to look in the mirror and like what I see. I’ve been approached twice by modelling agencies, but they lose interest when they find out I’m not in my twenties. It’s still nice, though, and I’ve had some great stuff from it- flight upgrades happened a lot, and hotel suites being bumped up, I’ve also been invited into VIP areas and had a quite famous/handsome man give me his number. I also relish getting ID’d or having strangers come up and compliment my hair etc. Shallow but true! Ashamed to say that I do pose in the mirror sometimes and take selfies, but I don’t have social media or share them. Very much a self indulgent hobby!

On the downside, I’m terrified of losing my face. If I have a bad looks day I can get very needy with my husband, ‘do I still look ok’ etc. I’m very aware of getting old and I hate it. Deep down, I still believe the best thing I have to offer is my face, and what will I do when I lose it? It terrifies me, and I spent half an hour a day on my skin, hair and bodycare. I also panic if I miss a workout. I don’t think I’ll ever be 100% secure in myself. My looks take up a huge chunk of my time, mentally more than anything, which is ridiculous, because they have a very fleeting effect on the outside world. The people who love me do so regardless. My sister once said to me, a few years back when we were dressed up for a wedding, ‘I forget how beautiful you are sometimes, because you’re just you’. That comment stuck with me, and I remind myself often nobody but me cares how I look, that it just becomes a part of me. But it’s hard not to dwell on it. When society values something and you have it, you become so scared of losing it. I judge myself for being shallow, but would also be devastated to wake up with a different face.

Aware how awful that all sounds but there you go! That’s my experience. I probably won’t come back to the thread as I’m sure I’ll get torn to pieces, but I saw the question asked and felt like answering. It’s very taboo to acknowledge you are pretty, let alone beautiful, so I don’t ever say it out loud! I guess that’s what message boards are for.

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rarari · 14/04/2021 20:33

The posters saying they are ugly I'm sure you're not. I don't think I've even seen a truly ugly person.

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rarari · 14/04/2021 20:36

I will say I'm scared of ageing, not so much the changing of my body but changes to my face scare me.

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supermoonrising · 14/04/2021 20:36

I have a friend who is pretty but not beautiful
Never understood what this means. For me the most beautiful women are the prettiest women. And vice versa.

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supermoonrising · 14/04/2021 20:37

I think it's a distinction that some women like to make "oh she's pretty but not Beautiful" that men don't really make at all.

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Drunkenmonkey · 14/04/2021 20:39

I was considered beautiful or very 'pretty' when younger, especially teens to mid twenties. I had the doll face look, big eyes, high cheek bones, good skin and petite. That look doesn't last really and I'm very aware that I now don't turn heads like I used to, I'm now 36.
At the time I used to feel amazing when going out as I got so much attention and I used to love walking into a room and turning heads, men's eyes lingering for ages or keep turning back. It felt incredible at times.

However I actually think it was a curse as it meant i didn't have to try in other ways and didn't progress myself like I should have in my career and preferred to party hard and socialise. You also really feel the loss of it as you age. It suddenly dawned on me at about age 30 that I didn't turn heads in the street anymore really, and more recently I feel quite invisible, like I just blend into a crowd. I know you can still look nice as you age and I do look after myself, but that feeling of being attractive and youthful and invincible is something I really miss.
I can see why celebrities really struggle when they lose fame and attention as attention is addictive in all forms. I hope I don't sound like a conceited twat, I am actually quite an insecure person.

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TableFlowerss · 14/04/2021 20:39

No idea because I’m not beautiful, never have been. I’m a good average I’d say. I feel the best of my looks are now behind me and it’s downhill from here really. Yes I could get some fillers etc but sometimes think that after years of filers, it can age some people.

The society we live in, is so looks focused that of course it feels shit getting older but looks really do fade and lines start appearing. So what age do we look out best? 18-35 before age starts kicking in? When you no longer look ‘young’.

Blink and those years are gone, so we’ve got about 45 years left to come to terms with the fact that personality is so much more important than looks.

I’m not ready to go au-natural yet with my grey hair but I do applaud those that do. I’m not happy with how I look, but equally I’m not unhappy so it must be quite hard for some women that were beautiful to see age start taking a hold. I can see how it would be harder for those deemed beautiful compared to the average person.

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Sarahtrue11 · 14/04/2021 20:39

@rarari

The posters saying they are ugly I'm sure you're not. I don't think I've even seen a truly ugly person.

I think people's personalities make them look ugly. Their badness comes out in their face. I know one very cruel ,nasty older woman, she really is vile. She enjoys being nasty to people. And she is really ugly as well
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Sleepisoverrated150 · 14/04/2021 20:39

@Sarahtrue11 I completely get that experience. One of my friends is stunning and to begin with I was cautious as I thought she might be a bit bitchy. It’s always the popular pretty girl on TV that’s the meanest so while I wasn’t mean to her I wasnt overly friendly.

As I got to know her she has a lovely personality too and we slowly became friends.

I do think some women tend to keep beautiful people at arms length until we have worked them out. Plus I was probably a little jealous 🙈

I’ve now grown up though, I can’t believe grown women would still have that mentality!

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Primark872 · 14/04/2021 20:42

Actually amazed at people saying they've lost their looks at 35/36 wtf!

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KeeTcat · 14/04/2021 20:42

Women who are above average in looks or who are naturally beautiful don't tend to know they are that attractive. And if they realise they are, they wouldn't comment on this thread for fear of being called a Samantha Brick.

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Primark872 · 14/04/2021 20:44

Another poster suggesting that they had stopped being good looking at 30. I find that incredibly worrying as a statement, 30 is no age, if you think you're past it at 30 you're seriously deluded.

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Drunkenmonkey · 14/04/2021 20:46

@KeeTcat Why can't women know if they are attractive? Can they not know if they are intelligent either? What about funny? Does everyone have to pretend they are ugly stupid bores in case someone calls them conceited.
People can be honest online as noone knows you anyway, I would never ever say anything in real life.
Men don't have to deal with this shit.

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