Page 5 | I wanted Prince Philip to make it to 100 to get a letter from The Queen

JackieWeaverHandforthCouncil · 2021-04-09T11:12:09+00:00

Losing your DH after such a long marriage must feel like losing an organ. RIP.

MarshaBradyo · 09/04/2021 14:10

Ah I wondered why Johnson was speaking on radio took a mo to get to why

Quite sad

Macncheeseballs · 09/04/2021 14:10

This reply has been deleted

Message deleted by MNHQ. Here's a link to our Talk Guidelines.

Dasher789 · 09/04/2021 14:10

RIP Prince Philip, thank you for your service

Schoolisback1973 · 09/04/2021 14:12

So sad for the Queen! RIP Prince Philip

Cam77 · 09/04/2021 14:12

@Ponoka7
People knew what racism meant in the 70s -00s.
And he wasn’t just a random old person, his role was that of an extremely high ranking diplomat. If he couldn’t become a decent person who could see past skin colour,, he should have at least learnt to keep his nasty worldview to himself for the sake of his position.

Butwasitherdriveway · 09/04/2021 14:14

This reply has been deleted

Message deleted by MNHQ. Repeats deleted post.

Macncheeseballs · 09/04/2021 14:18

Butwasitthedriveway, - it was a genuine point, you can't possibly know what goes on inside the queen's head, spare me your outrage

mrshoho · 09/04/2021 14:18

@Cam77

Interesting to watch the original video of his reported racist comments about Chinese people, which he made in 1986. Even in 1986 the news reporters knew the comments were beyond the pale. The comments he made weren’t denied, instead the Royal spokesperson said it was just “all good fun” or something.

As others have said, probably just best not to talk about the good stuff vs bad stuff right now, just talk about his general role as husband to the Queen. But if you are going to talk about the good vs bad stuff, well the bad stuff was nasty racism and a privileged imperial mindset. Racism, not “gaffes”. Don’t sugarcoat racism. We knew what racism was in 1986 and we certainly do in 2021.

not wishing to pick a fight but your 'beyond the pale' wording is actually seen as quite offensive when you understand the history of it. I'm only pointing this out as you raised the subject of Philip's past offensive remarks.

Prettybubblesintheair · 09/04/2021 14:22

@Macncheeseballs

Maybe the Queen isn't devastated at all

So you keep saying.

As others have said, he was a man of his time. You would be hard pressed to find someone of his era with bigoted views. No, that doesn’t make it right or ok to be racist and no doubt there will be endless discussions about this, however the man has just died. No one is asking you specifically to feel sad. This is a thread mainly of people expressing their condolences, most people are sad for the queen and the family.

Prettybubblesintheair · 09/04/2021 14:23

*without

Macncheeseballs · 09/04/2021 14:26

Pretty bubble- thanks for explaining to me how grief works

Mittens030869 · 09/04/2021 14:29

I think it’s fair to say that the sadness expressed is sadness for the Queen, who is well loved. Not actual personal grief, since obviously we didn’t know him personally.

There’s also a time and place for vilification of an individual and just after they’ve died isn’t it in the minds of the majority of people.

DdraigGoch · 09/04/2021 14:29

@littlepeas

The obituary is up on the BBC already, despite it being breaking news. I think it's a bit distasteful tbh - I know they have them prepared and ready, but they should wait a while to make it less obvious!

Broadcasters are given at least an hour's notice to get ready before it is officially announced. This gives them time for the newsreaders to get changed into something appropriate, for producers to phone around interviewees and for the pre-prepared films to be shown.

Otherwise you'd just have an announcement "X passed away this morning" and then an awkward moment where you can't just revert to normal programming and in your view shouldn't go straight into the obituaries.

Every aspect of Royal deaths is meticulously planned well in advance. You can bet that Prince William has taken part in many meetings over the years to plan his own funeral - just in case.

Adultingin2021 · 09/04/2021 14:30

I certainly hope that there isn’t a deterioration in the Queen’s health now Philip has gone. You do see it often when one life partner has died, the one still living often has a rapid decline sadly.

Macncheeseballs · 09/04/2021 14:32

Mittens, not sure you can speak for the majority

ScotlandUnited · 09/04/2021 14:32

I wonder if he died in his sleep or if his family were informed and were at his bedside?

There will need to be strict covid compliance because if not, others who have lost loved ones may complain.

The 30 people would be, Liz, Charles, Camilla, Andrew, Anne, Tim, Edward, Sophie, William, Kate, Zara, Mike, Peter, Eugenie, Jack, Beatrice, Eduardo, Louise, James, any living members on Phillips side and the minister.

I don't know if Harry will come over, but Meghan is pregnant and for that (and other reasons) probably not.

poppycat10 · 09/04/2021 14:32

@Ponoka7

"A racist is a racist" You'd be hard pressed to find someone born in 1921 who didn't have some bigatry and make inappropriate comments. That includes people of all ethnicities.

Exactly.

He was a product of his time and upbringing. He had a good life, it's a pity he didn't make it to the big round 100 but 99 is a great age.

I hope the Queen's long-standing friends are still "with it" and can help her get through this.

MarshaBradyo · 09/04/2021 14:34

@Mittens030869

I think it’s fair to say that the sadness expressed is sadness for the Queen, who is well loved. Not actual personal grief, since obviously we didn’t know him personally.

There’s also a time and place for vilification of an individual and just after they’ve died isn’t it in the minds of the majority of people.

Honestly not really re the Queen.

Just a moment to pause and think about monarchy and his passing.

Clydesider · 09/04/2021 14:35

I know he could be a bit crotchety at times, but he was a man who gave up his own career in the Navy and dedicated his life to supporting his wife. His Duke of Edinburgh scheme is world renowned. I think it's safe to say he has made a sizeable contribution to the nation.

I feel very sad for the Queen. I'm sure she will feel lost without him.

Butwasitherdriveway · 09/04/2021 14:37

@Macncheeseballs

Butwasitthedriveway, - it was a genuine point, you can't possibly know what goes on inside the queen's head, spare me your outrage

Shush .

Mittens030869 · 09/04/2021 14:38

Okay, maybe not the majority. I’m not even Prince Philip’s biggest fan myself. But there is an attitude that you don’t ’speak ill of the dead’, although this may not be so much the case anymore admittedly.

Anne1958 · 09/04/2021 14:39

I certainly hope that there isn’t a deterioration in the Queen’s health now Philip has gone. You do see it often when one life partner has died, the one still living often has a rapid decline sadly.*

That’s a worrying thought. It would be very sad if it happens.

stalachtiteorstalagmite · 09/04/2021 14:40

I am sorry for the Queen, they seemed to have such a happy marriage. I love this photo of them.

I wanted Prince Philip to make it to 100 to get a letter from The Queen

pheonixrebirth · 09/04/2021 14:42

@Ponoka7

"A racist is a racist" You'd be hard pressed to find someone born in 1921 who didn't have some bigatry and make inappropriate comments. That includes people of all ethnicities.

This absolutely, he was like an embarrassing uncle or Grandad. Most would think fondly of him but at the same time when you heard he was in the news be thinking "what has he said now?".

KisstheTeapot14 · 09/04/2021 14:43

Not a royalist but I have a lot of respect for the queen, and feel very sad to know she has lost her husband.

A handsome young man in his time, and one with quite a few sad events in his own life. I saw a one man performance about his life a few years ago and it made me rather more sympathetic to him as a person - flawed like the rest of us - and trying his best with his lot in life.