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AIBU - England couldn’t care less about Northern Ireland

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ThisThatTheOther · 09/04/2021 08:19

Northern Ireland has seen a return to violence , petrol bombs etc every night for a week now. It’s dominated the headlines here in Ireland. People are worried as peace up north is so fragile. Listening to the radio yesterday an old advisor of Tony Blair was on to discuss. The radio host read out the top 8 listed stories on all main English sites and the violence of Northern Ireland didn’t even feature. It’s the top headline again in all major Irish publications this morning but not in English publications.

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EmeraldShamrock · 15/04/2021 01:38

We could give the Irish green passports!
Oh I'd like a green passport. Grin

BusyLizzie61 · 15/04/2021 07:13

@ThisThatTheOther

Thanks all for your responses. Sorry I worded my OP badly, I meant more the English machinery of government / media. There is no appetite to care or discuss what’s happening. There is no working government in northern Ireland at the moment. Westminster should be all over this trying to diffuse tensions. It’s not even the same as if there were riots in Bristol etc it’s far worse. Northern Ireland was a war zone within people’s lifetimes. There are serious divisions simmering underneath the surface and Brexit has brought them back to the fore. This should be the number one thing Westminster is concerned about. Things need to be stopped before they escalate further. The point the radio host made yesterday astounded me that it hadn’t even made the top 8 stories in all major publications.
The government should be involved.

But tbh I disagree that the English media newspaper buyers/readers would believe that this is front page news worthy for them. The same as I doubt it was front page news for Welsh or Scottish publications.
That's a significant difference.

Mmn654123 · 15/04/2021 07:22

@EmeraldShamrock

We could give the Irish green passports! Oh I'd like a green passport. Grin
Hurray!

Who needs Westminster and Washington wading in? We can solve this on mumsnet!

WoolieLiberal · 15/04/2021 19:32

Ireland was not a colony after 1801- it was an integral part of the United Kingdom and sent MPs to Westminster. Unfortunately, until 1829 they had to be Protestant, which excluded over 90% of the Irish population.

Before that there was also an Irish Parliament (Protestant again) but the British Crown had sovereignty over Ireland.

There was always a perception as a result that Ireland was being ruled by the British.

In the late Victorian era devolution was proposed, and in 1914 the legislation was passed that would have made Ireland effectively a self-governing part of the UK but the War got in the way, then the Easter Rising happened in 1916 which led to a civil war.

What is little publicised is that Irish Republicanism was a minority view, even amongst Catholics, until the British government executed many of the Easter Rising rebels and made martyrs of them. After that, the fire was lit.

A suggestion that Ireland should rejoin the UK would not go down well over there, nice as it might be to have modern Ireland back given many of the differences are now long past.

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