To eyeroll at people that hang their political party posters in their windows?

[hellofrommetoyou]

My neighbour...completely normal, late 20s, single mum just put up an SNP poster in her living room window for all her neighbours and passerby's to see. Is there really any need? Must we know the party she supports and who she'll be voting for on May 6th?

When I spotted it (hard to miss, bright yellow) I just cringed and rolled my eyes, I think it's a bit of a display and I'm not sure what the purpose is for.

What a bizarre attitude from the OP and the idea that people who actively and openly support a political party are ignorant, how ridiculous. I’m no fan of the SNP due to their complete lack of interest in woman’s rights but I certainly don’t think there is anything wrong in having a poster up supporting them if that’s your political opinion.

And those who wonder why Tories don’t advertise it. They’re not ashamed, they just can’t be bothered dealing with the arrogant bigoted attacks as shown so eloquently by a number of posters on here.

Hello - they are pro self ID meaning that any man can declare himself a woman and access women’s spaces and they brought in a hate crime bill where abuse of cross dressers was a crime but abuse of women isn’t....

It’s always Tories who want to keep their voting preferences private. Always. They’re ashamed. As they should be

Indeed, like the “shy” Trump voters who confounded the polls at both elections.

@XDownwiththissortofthingX

Follow the overwhelmingly positive response in the public consultation signalling widespread public approval for GRC reform.

@XDownwiththissortofthingX

Was that ever published?

[quote hellofrommetoyou]@suzzze well SNP isn't my political party of choice and so maybe that is a part of it. However, no, I think I'd feel the same if it were my own party. Politics should be private, there's no need to plaster it for all the world to see. It reeks of ignorance in my opinion. [/quote]
Politics should be private?

Is that code for I'm a Scottish Tory and I can't say it out loud

Hello - they are pro self ID meaning that any man can declare himself a woman and access women’s spaces and they brought in a hate crime bill where abuse of cross dressers was a crime but abuse of women isn’t....

The 'abuse of cross dressers' has been a hate crime since 2010. Johann Lamont's proposed amendment would have removed protection from a group that has been protected since 2010. How, in any way, can that be described as 'protecting womens rights'?

The HCB did exactly, almost to the letter, what Lord Bracadale's independent inquiry finding suggested, i.e. rolling existing hate crime legislation into one bill, not including a specific misogyny crime because that requires further extensive investigation and discussion, and merits entirely separate legislation of it's own.

The resultant bill was passed with cross-party support, with only the Tory party voting against it.

This whole narrative that the HCB is 'anti-womens rights' is utterly fatuous, every single word of it, and stems from nothing but bitterness at continued SNP electoral success.

If, and when, the working group concludes that yes indeed, misogyny absolutely should be a hate crime, and also determines a solid and robust framework for the necessary legislation, how on earth is that going to be spun as 'the SNP hates women' then? I'm really eager to find out.

I wouldn't personally put one up but don't have a problem with anyone who does.

The whole "politics should be private" bollocks is exactly what keeps people like Johnson in charge. They thrive off apathy and political ignorance, because a lack of proper engagement lets them get away with lying, cheating and manipulating.

Open political discourse is absolutely key and should be encouraged for a healthy democracy, no matter who you support. How else will you learn from others' perspectives?

Was that ever published?

Not as yet, the responses have to be independently analysed and Covid has drawn a halt to that -

consult.gov.scot/family-law/gender-recognition-reform-scotland-bill/

Unofficially, 64% of the received responses were categorised as being supportive of GRC reform, iirc

I probably would put a poster up too if anyone could see it. Lots of people in my village do, it's pretty normal and doesn't bother me at all.

Voting has more of an impact at the local elections but its the national elections that seem to have all the fanfare. I'm glad when people promote their support to their party whoever that may be.

@user1471453601

We do this. It's our business, not yours, that we choose to do so. The majority of us are card carrying members of a political party, so we do it.

You put stuff that you consider your business and not the neighbours’ business in the window?!

You know people will have opinions on stuff they can see? From your gate design to your overt political allegiances?

YABU,it never bothered me.
Not your house,not your windows.
Let them be.

Thanks @XDownwiththissortofthingX I'm surprised it received such support but will wait to see the published findings.

Jesus, you can’t do anything now. Everything is fucking ostentation.

Welcome to MN, OP. 9/10 very enjoyable thread. Loving the irate responses.

I'm not ashamed. Nothing to be ashamed about but was raised to treat it like sex, keep it private.

LMAO

I'm not a snob by any means but yes, it is uncouth

Very good :-)

I don’t but many people on our street (a busy road) do.
I find it reassuring tbh that most of our street don’t have blue flags (although the outer end of town definitely do).
We feel a bit politically homeless tbh and usually go for the anti-tory tactical vote but I can hope that one day I might find a political home and at that point might well be happy to have a post in my garden. If only to keep the canvassers away.
When it was the referendum I had a big remain poster up and at least twice I saw UKIP walking past and deciding not to bother so worth it IMO.

I'm with you, OP - I think.

By all means, people can put up what they want in their own windows (as long as it's legal, of course), but I never get the point of a poster that's just the name and symbol/facile slogan of a political party. Maybe if the posters went to the trouble of outlining why you should vote for their party of choice, it would make more sense; but it's not like people won't have heard of the major parties already and have an idea of which one(s) they like/don't like. Unless you have a gun to somebody's head, just telling them to "Vote SNP/Tory/Labour/Plaid Cymru/Lib Dem/Whoever" isn't really going to sway them into doing so, surely? Ali G joked about voting for the one with the funniest-sounding name, but this method - being guided by soundbite posters in windows - isn't really any more sensible than that, is it?

I think it's like any advertising, really: introduce me to your product and tell me some of the benefits of buying it and reasons why doing so will enrich my life. Perfume and (most) car ads are the worst of all - I will in no way be minded to buy whatever you're peddling just because you just tell me the name of it and have beautiful people and/or celebrities using/driving it, with a particular song in the background.

@hellofrommetoyou

Hmm each to their own I suppose. I personally just think it's very 'look at me, look at me'.

It's got sweet FA to do with that. I am quite happy to give my chosen party free advertising for Tory prevention purposes.

[quote hellofrommetoyou]@ContentsMayBeHot I'm not ashamed. Nothing to be ashamed about but was raised to treat it like sex, keep it private. [/quote]
Not everyone was raised like you. Were you raised to sit in judgement of other people too?

I like them.

Don’t visit the US during voting season OP. The yard signs everywhere will give you conniptions.

I’m surprised nobody seems to have heard of ‘never talk about money or politics’. I mean I understand times have maybe changed but it wasn’t commonplace to be open until very recently. I kind of see their point seeing how abusive people can be. And while there are quite a few parties, in any given constituency there are usually a couple of front runners and a vote elsewhere would be wasted.

I do wonder what the point is. Why are they put up, and how effective are they in realising that goal?

I mean, presumably, these things are one-sided, so they don't see anything in their home; the political stuff is all for passers-by.

I would never decide who to vote for based on a poster in a random person's window (or even a neighbour, relative or friend's window).

So if it's not for them, and it's not for me, who is the poster for?

I can't get too worked up about the posters, but I will confess, I would feel uncomfortable to pass a BNP poster, so on the whole, I'd rather no posters go up. People have mentioned canvassers, but I've never encountered one. Not that I'd discuss my political beliefs with some random person who turned up on my doorstep anyway!

I have a colleague who came and lived and worked in Scotland for a year (2014).

She was amazed at how openly we'd all discuss politics in the office, and said it couldn't happen where she's from as opinions are so polarised and, well, too many people own guns, to make it a safe thing to do.

I cherish that about Scotland really.

I think the secretive vote thing is very out dated and probably stems from some sort of feudal voting coercion.