If each country had a two child policy

[Blackcat21]

Just an idea and my opinion, and fully aware I will probably get flamed for this.

The population is rising, not shrinking, and with that is coming ridiculous house prices, global warming, running low on natural resources and foods.

Health services are stretched and school classes are increasingly full.

Wouldn’t an solution to this be only letting per couple or mother/father have two biological children each.

I must admit, it does annoy me when some women go on to have 3rd, 4th child etc just because “they want to” or want a large family, love being with children or love being a mother.

Motherhood is a beautiful thing but it could be restricted to two biological children only.

Overpopulation is impacting the earth too much.

If this couple wanted more children they can adopt.
There are thousands of children in the U.K. and other countries each year wanting to be adopted.

Doing this could possibly tackle overpopulation but increase the adoption of children.

Obviously I’m aware there is problems of how to monitor this, what if a woman gets pregnant against her will, accidental pregnancies etc but not that is the not the point or idea I’m trying to get across right now.

AIBU to think this could be a good approach?

Surely the main “problem” is that people are living for much longer than they used to? Leading to an imbalance between deaths and births?

As many people have pointed out, global fertility is falling. Countries like Japan & China are seriously worried about the imbalance between working age population & elderly population, and now actively trying to increase their birth rate. Recent UK population growth is largely driven by immigration.

[quote terribleg]@Blackcat21 how should we tackle the UKs ageing population? [/quote]
Kill everyone on their 70th birthday. There are plenty of dystopian novels that incorporate that idea. If the ageism on MN is anything to go by it would be a vote winner. House prices would go down too with a glut on the market - win/win.

I’ve said before I’m not interested in debating the “what, how and why” because that’s not the point I’m trying to make

Of course you are not interested, as you have not got the first clue how it could be done, and you know full well the bit you can imagine is fucking appalling.
So basically your point is you know nothing, understand nothing, and your premise is faulty, but you feel goady.

How to tackle our ageing population? Maybe a pandemic virus that preferentially kills old people?

In principle I agree with you, however it could never be enforceable and I certainly wouldn't want to be a part of a world where it was. I think governments must encourage small families but without the emphasis being just on the woman. Having huge families now is just self indulgent.

Haven’t read through this thread past the ops dystopian bollox and the first thread of justified anger.
“If this couple wanted more children they can adopt.
There are thousands of children in the U.K. and other countries each year wanting to be adopted.”
And where will these spare children come from? The ones that women had against state rule? The children of the poor? Breeding farms?
Ffs.

"The population is getting older, people are living longer and less babies are being born."

Exactly saffire. We need more people having large families, not less. Old folks won't look after themselves in hospital 🙄

I agree OP. You were always going to get stick on here as a Faye few will have more than 2 children. Then there’s the ones that would say ‘what about rape, twins, etc...’as if you’ve ironed out all the finer details etc... but ultimately, I agree with your sentiments.

The won’t be ‘an earth’ as we know it soon because of all the selfish bastards that we call the human race. We think we’re the epitome of intelligent yet we’re nothing more than greedy, selfish, entitled twats! We’re ruining the planet for the generations to follow because we don’t care....

And honestly, the "just adopt" brigade... I'm pregnant with #3 and although I'd love a larger family I don't think I can do this again as I'm so ill with pregnancy. I considered adopting even before we had #1 and each time I have come to the conclusion that it's easier to gestate and birth a child with all of those attendant risks than to "just" adopt. Maybe we will adopt in the future, but it's bloody hard work and they don't hand kids out like sweeties to anyone who asks.

We need more people having large families, not less.

But you can't have this when people of working age don't have the resources to sustain that - affordable housing, a livable wage and so forth...

My point is population control and how it will benefit the earth
Yet you’re completely ignoring posters who are pointing out that global fertility, population etc are decreasing not increasing, and the rest of problems that go along with this.

In some countries especially in Asia and Africa, populations are exploding although in Europe especially in Eastern and Central Europe, birth rates are rapidly declining.
In some cultures boys are valued more highly than girls, and in some places, girls are married very young, have no education and are just expected to produce a baby every year.
There is no simple solution but it's seen that the more educated a woman, the less likely she is to want alot of children.

We’d be better off not giving medical treatment to anyone over the age of 70 in order to reduce the ageing population... or is this just as ridiculous as your idea?

my point is population control and how it will benefit the earth

And multiple people have posted evidence that the global population is predicted to self-control shortly and then fall into a decline.

Yes it is.
How anyone can think this while at the same time knowing the devastating impact human beings are having on the planet is beyond me. We've even managed to increase the temperature, unless you think global warming is also a myth.

The amount of people isn't the prime reason for climate change though. It's what we do that's the issue, and what we have been doing in what in Earth terms is a miniscule amount of time. Now we are expected to stall or even reverse our damage in even less time - a blink of an eye in terms of Universal Time. It's simply unrealistic - for the levels we need to achieve, humanity essentially needs to come to a standstill. The eradication of a huge number of us in about 2 generations, along with pretty much instantaneous ceasing to use modern tech or means of production. That's the reality.

I dont disagree we should all be making individual efforts to do better for what little time (in the grand scheme of things) that humans have left, but 'save the planet'? It's too late.

Kill everyone on their 70th birthday. There are plenty of dystopian novels that incorporate that idea. If the ageism on MN is anything to go by it would be a vote winner. House prices would go down too with a glut on the market - win/win.

Bit harsh but it seems odd to discuss the topic of overpopulation but ignore the issue of ageing populations

Well I'm currently expecting my third DC, I've lost close family members who didn't live anywhere near the average life expectancy so rightly or wrongly I feel this balances things out a little, not that any of us know how long we are here for and each day we wake up we are blessed and privileged to do so.

I’ve said before I’m not interested in debating the “what, how and why” because that’s not the point I’m trying to make.

Well your "point" falls flat on ots face then doesn't it? If you can't give examples of how you expect this rule to be enforced then how can you start a discussion on it?

Oh, and its a fucking ridiculous idea. HTH.

Oh and I've just had my third. She was a surprise. Didn't plan it but I'm really interested in what should have happened to me when I refused to abort her?

This topic has been stated many many times over many many years now. How would you suggest taking action, so that your views on two children only, could be implemented for millions of people. I know of one person in the world, who tried to dictate this,and it failed,and caused much unrest all round.

The problem isn’t new births, it people not dying.
You’d be better off culling everyone at a certain age, HtH.

I’ve said before I’m not interested in debating the “what, how and why” because that’s not the point I’m trying to make. 😂

oh, sorry, I did miss that. So now I can start replying with arguments about moving to the next Earth-like planet and start populating it.
If you don't need to bother with what, how and why, it does make the whole discussion a lot nonsensical easier

so a woman marries a man who already has his 2 with previous partner
Does she get inseminated with random childfree man sperm?
(another daft answer)
If you look at stats for most European countries you will see we are note that most have less than 2 children per couple
I believe something even more outrageous! I think its high time we started going back to the moon & than onto Mars - we have the potential to colonize them

It’s a shame that the conversation about future population can’t be discussed

This is about how many children I have or anyone else has on this thread it’s about how in future people start thinking about the impact we all have

We won’t suffer so much as our children and their children shall from the world being so highly populated

I believe by the time my son plans to have children (if he does) his generation will think about this more thankfully