If each country had a two child policy

[Blackcat21]

Just an idea and my opinion, and fully aware I will probably get flamed for this.

The population is rising, not shrinking, and with that is coming ridiculous house prices, global warming, running low on natural resources and foods.

Health services are stretched and school classes are increasingly full.

Wouldn’t an solution to this be only letting per couple or mother/father have two biological children each.

I must admit, it does annoy me when some women go on to have 3rd, 4th child etc just because “they want to” or want a large family, love being with children or love being a mother.

Motherhood is a beautiful thing but it could be restricted to two biological children only.

Overpopulation is impacting the earth too much.

If this couple wanted more children they can adopt.
There are thousands of children in the U.K. and other countries each year wanting to be adopted.

Doing this could possibly tackle overpopulation but increase the adoption of children.

Obviously I’m aware there is problems of how to monitor this, what if a woman gets pregnant against her will, accidental pregnancies etc but not that is the not the point or idea I’m trying to get across right now.

AIBU to think this could be a good approach?

@Iminaglasscaseofemotion

Oh and I've just had my third. She was a surprise. Didn't plan it but I'm really interested in what should have happened to me when I refused to abort her?

Nothing!

Congratulations on your happy accident. Your little daughter will be cherished.

In the UK, if we don't start having more babies, there won't be enough lovely tax payers of working age to provide the funds to pay pensions or run anything much.

What a rubbish argument. If we are short of labour we could easily import it from high unemployment countries. We get tax payers, they get a job.

YABU, we should not let the government control our reproductive rights. What happens if you fall pregnant with twins after having a child already? What happens if you fall accidentally pregnant? What happens if you decide that a fulfilling life, for you, involves another child?

My body my choice, pal.

I know hundreds of parents, a handful have 3 , 2 i can think of have more than 3.most i know havebone or two and few i know have none.

Many issues- talking about adoptions isn't as easy as percieved. So many adoped children have additional issues to manage- it is not for many.

Secondly man has 2 children, leaves his wife , meets someone else. Can she have children?

The desire to reproduce is a biological urge , that is wht people spend thousands on fertility treatments.

If we are short of labour we could easily import it from high unemployment countries.

Don't think this will be a vote winning idea.

@DamsonTrousers

My Great Great Grandmother had 17 children, 7 of whom died before the age of 10. An extreme example but huge families weren’t that unusual in the not too distant past.

DH’s great-grandmother had 16 children, 15 of which made it to adulthood, in the space of 22 years. She was married at 19, first child the same year, she died aged 41 three months after giving birth to her youngest child. The eldest daughter, who was not long married herself, had to take the four youngest children in as her father could not cope as at that point there were 8 children under the age of 10 in the house.

God knows how people coped!

PP have made a very good point about our aging population. People have always had many children, usually due to high death rates in babies and toddlers' in the past and parents and grandparents dying earlier. We now can keep the elderly and very ill artificially going long after they should have passed away. I think your looking at the wrong issue, @Blackcat21.....

Does this mean I can sell one of my twins?

@Blackcat21

You could have done even the most basic research into population and development to know this is dumb as hell 👍
I teach yr10 geographers more than you know about this 🤷‍♀️

From a scientific and purely logical standpoint, I agree with you. In the real world, it is of course abominable to restrict people's reproductive rights.

Have you ever visited overpopulated countries like most of Asia? Overpopulation is not a myth but dark reality and it hits you hard when you ever live in such places. Forget about resources you get suffocated and wish you had a bit of more O2 first. Count me in for 2 child policy

I think Vladimirspoutine meant the globe as a whole, not individual countries or continents. And that’s the problem. In the ‘developed’ world, where women have contraception and education (and access to manifold resources for all), there isn’t an over abundance of populace, but in some areas, and some of those are developing countries, there is. Who exactly is going to even to attempt to impose this kind of restriction on those areas? And how is that even ‘fair’? Redistribution, or proper distribution, of education, wealth and resources would naturally sort out this issue without resorting to medieval imposition of ‘breeding’ quotas. And that, I’m afraid, will never happen.

What a rubbish argument. If we are short of labour we could easily import it from high unemployment countries.

Do we just go over & grab them?

Twins, triplets etc? What a stupid comment to make op. Maybe you should look at China where people are aborting their second kids or putting them up for adoption.

@Kendodd

In the UK, if we don't start having more babies, there won't be enough lovely tax payers of working age to provide the funds to pay pensions or run anything much.

What a rubbish argument. If we are short of labour we could easily import it from high unemployment countries. We get tax payers, they get a job.

I see. And what happens to those countries, where you’ve imported your, young and probably educated, workforce from? Or doesn’t that matter? Ffs.

So what happens if a woman falls in love with a man who has already gathered his government allowed quota of children. She must live her life child free?

As the first poster who replied says, the world does not have a lack of resources, just an unequal distribution of them.
The UK wastes massive amounts of perfectly edible groceries that don't pass the appearance test to be sold to the public while people are starving in third world countries.

[quote terribleg]@Blackcat21 how should we tackle the UKs ageing population? [/quote]
That's easy. Make the rule 'no more than 2 GPs beyond the age of 60'

right kids, time to chose your favourite grandparents

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Maybe the Government should tell us all to eat Vegan then, and get rid of holidaying abroad too? What about only being allowed 2 changes of clothes and a certain amount of electricity and water to use?

@GnomeDePlume

'right kids, time to chose your favourite grandparents'
Best comment of the thread!!

I have 4 children, we wanted 4 children, we were able to provide for 4 children and our children are now intelligent, articulate and compassionate adults.

Hmm kind of agree but its how it would be unforced is the issues in theory you could say unless you pay for birth or more children and can prove you can fully support them to adult hood pay for education ect however it would be then rich people could have more kids and normal people couldn't, but I also believe if you can't afford more kids don't have them, we have 1 could at a push afford a second but then if anything happened money wise we would be screwed

I think it’s a great idea. I also think people should be sterilised after their two kids so they can’t break the rules.

Over population in not a myth, its extremely serious. I think 2 children each is too many, now we know how serious environmental problems are.

It's factually incorrect to say the population is continuing to grow, it's levelling off. The book Factfulness is very good and I'd highly recommend.

Well you could improve the rights and status of women, women's education and access to reproductive and general health care, improve general primary care in many countries. That leads to drops in birth rates like day follows night.

You could reduce consumption per head in the wealthy west where one individual "costs the earth" many times an individual in less developed countries.

Of course these ideas have the disadvantage of not being fundamentally misogynist or racist so may not hit the desired audiencet unless cheap DM style blaming all the world's problems on "them" is the your desired audience.