If each country had a two child policy

[Blackcat21]

Just an idea and my opinion, and fully aware I will probably get flamed for this.

The population is rising, not shrinking, and with that is coming ridiculous house prices, global warming, running low on natural resources and foods.

Health services are stretched and school classes are increasingly full.

Wouldn’t an solution to this be only letting per couple or mother/father have two biological children each.

I must admit, it does annoy me when some women go on to have 3rd, 4th child etc just because “they want to” or want a large family, love being with children or love being a mother.

Motherhood is a beautiful thing but it could be restricted to two biological children only.

Overpopulation is impacting the earth too much.

If this couple wanted more children they can adopt.
There are thousands of children in the U.K. and other countries each year wanting to be adopted.

Doing this could possibly tackle overpopulation but increase the adoption of children.

Obviously I’m aware there is problems of how to monitor this, what if a woman gets pregnant against her will, accidental pregnancies etc but not that is the not the point or idea I’m trying to get across right now.

AIBU to think this could be a good approach?

We are looking at a baby crash.
www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/health-53409521.

I also recommend reading "Empty Planet", by Bricker and Ibbitson. They went and did the surveys to find out the "why" behind the statistics. Crudely speaking; everyone aspires to a better life and when women are given the choice, they opt for fewer babies. There's not a single country in the world where the fertility level has gone up, recently. Even the chart-topping fertile countries such as Niger, are having fewer children compared to a decade ago.

Regarding Britain being overcrowded, our fertility rate is already below replacement level. The problem is that people are living longer, families are atomising (e.g. divorce/blended families) other) and we simply don't have the infrastructure - especially homes- in place to support it all. If you want that to change, you need to vote for different policies at the ballot box.

The true problem is overconsumption, but that's a little easier to solve as it requires modifying human behaviour, rather than removing humans en-mass.

Read this, then stop worrying about population growth: andune.blogspot.com/2006/02/more-on-birth-life-death-ruling-world.html?m=1

@VladmirsPoutine

Over population is a myth - a nefarious one at that. Unequal distribution of resources among a host of other factors should be redressed first before we start regulating wombs.

Have you ever visited overpopulated countries like most of Asia? Overpopulation is not a myth but dark reality and it hits you hard when you ever live in such places. Forget about resources you get suffocated and wish you had a bit of more O2 first. Count me in for 2 child policy.

The way to bring birth rates down is improve health care, social care and access to opportunities.

After watching that Seaspiracy on Netflix I think people having children is on the bottom of the Earths problem list at the moment.

Has anybody else watched? Traumatised me and has convinced me to make some positive changes in what foods I eat.

I think I’d choose DC 1 and DC 3.
DC 2 is my least favourite, so if we were only allowed two, that would be my choice. HTH.

people go on to do this 2, 3, 4 and even more times! Why??!!

Because not everyone has atrocious pregnancies and births and don’t expect to live in a show house when they have small children.

I don't think any of the next generation in my family want their own at the moment: range from age 30s downwards.

If one of them does decide to have three I don't think it will counter the overall trend.

@cockcrisps

I think I’d choose DC 1 and DC 3. DC 2 is my least favourite, so if we were only allowed two, that would be my choice. HTH.

Hahahaha!

I’ve got 3 and don’t want any more so I’m alright jack, do what you like now 😉

This article covers the topic of decreasing population well.

Fertility rate: 'Jaw-dropping' global crash in children being born www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-53409521

Some countries are going to be in a lot of trouble in 80 years time if births continue to decline at the current rate - populations will become too heavy with far more “old” people than “young” - aka the tax payers that fund healthcare and the like.

@Alsohuman

people go on to do this 2, 3, 4 and even more times! Why??!!

Because not everyone has atrocious pregnancies and births and don’t expect to live in a show house when they have small children.

And the other stuff?

Children aren’t fun. And while I kinda think my one’s OK, most kids are fooking annoying tbf.

OP has run away - totally goady thread

I can't find a 'puke" emoji with enough vomit to respond to this.

I don't think anyone is expecting you to send one back with multiple births

I think many triplet parents might appreciate this as an option. I remember talking to a pregnant colleague who was having triplets just before she went on maternity leave. She and her DH only wanted to have one !

@ghostyslovesheets

OP has run away - totally goady thread

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Shouldn’t we be focusing on inequality?
The wastefulness of countries and that impact on the environment? Our production methods and energy usage?

i think it was in the 60s China were only allowed 1 child to bring their population down, it worked temporarily only, and brought with it lots of problems.

Not in the 60s @Barney60

My house is happier with more children in it. I am a bit jealous of larger families, when I had to stop at 4.

I am still waiting for Blackcat21 how they would have arranged to net "let me have more than 2"

When I was looking through my family tree I was shocked at the amount of children everyone had, no one in my family has more than (other than my grandparents) have had more than 3 children, with the majority only having 2, same with most of my friends, I don’t know anyone who has had more than 3 children, most only have one or two and many of my friends don’t have any children yet (we are all early thirties).
None of my younger relatives (mid 20s) have any children yet, some don’t want any and others only plan to have 1-2 (obviously that could change) in a few years time.
From my experience it seems people are having less children with some exceptions.

I think in the next few generations there shall be far more thought as to the impact of family size and this shall carry on

Of course not everyone will but this line of thought was rarely discuss even ten years ago

The world population has doubled in the last 50 years we know how that impacts the environment. We absolutely have to slow down drastically. No I don’t think we should have laws put in place but I think the more aware we are over over populating the planet, the more discussions we have the more people will think about their own impact

@thebillyotea

My house is happier with more children in it. I am a bit jealous of larger families, when I had to stop at 4.

I am still waiting for Blackcat21 how they would have arranged to net "let me have more than 2"

You mustn’t of read my whole original post then.

I’ve said before I’m not interested in debating the “what, how and why” because that’s not the point I’m trying to make.

My point is population control and how it will benefit the earth, not if someone is having triplets. Common sense is nothing can be done about that so idk why people keep drumming on about it.

I wanted to see what other people’s opinions were on the idea, not be bombarded with hundreds of questions

@Blackcat21 how should we tackle the UKs ageing population?

My Great Great Grandmother had 17 children, 7 of whom died before the age of 10. An extreme example but huge families weren’t that unusual in the not too distant past.