To be really shocked by this.

[ivfbabymomma1]

Today whilst in the park for a walk I saw 4 teenagers, 2 boys & 2 girls. And the boys were "walking" the girls by leads attached to studded collars around their necks.

Is this a thing teenagers do?! It just didn't sit well with me.....

@UhtredRagnarson that’s my entire point. You shouldn’t assume that because something is unusual to you that doesn’t make if any more likely to be coercive or wrong.

@DontBeRidiculous it’s not weird to be goth. It’s also not about wanting attention, it’s just a preference for a certain aesthetic. I’m very shy and self conscious and I certainly didn’t and don’t dress the way I do for attention, if anything I started doing it because I didn’t want to be looked at sexually by men because of past trauma. Did people look? Sure. But not in the same way they looked at girls with blonde hair and short skirts and crop tops. They don’t see ‘me’ when I have bright pink/orange/Mohawk hair, big black studded boots and what not. They see the look which is a former of protection for me. So don’t make assumptions that people are attention seeking.

[quote OwlBeThere]@UhtredRagnarson that’s my entire point. You shouldn’t assume that because something is unusual to you that doesn’t make if any more likely to be coercive or wrong.[/quote]

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The leads were maybe a meter long but they were walking closer to each other than the length of the leads so to confirm no social distance rules were met 😂

Oh god how cringe

Although picking up on PP's have excused it for being a 'Trend'. Lots of things are trends and questionable, happy slapping, those ridiculous tik tok challenges, playing chicken in the road, doesn't mean it's not silly and inappropriate.

@UhtredRagnarson I don't really understand your problem. You’re being pretty rude for no reason I can fathom.

I don't really understand your problem.

I know you don’t. I’ve explained it as many times as I know how and you still don’t understand so I give up.

@Ineedcoffee2021 - I was amazed no one had asked!

glad to hear it IVF

[quote ivfbabymomma1]@EveryDayIsADuvetDay
@Ineedcoffee2021

The leads were maybe a meter long but they were walking closer to each other than the length of the leads so to confirm no social distance rules were met 😂[/quote]
Oh well then there your big issue lol
No SD what evil granny killer shits

@UhtredRagnarson I understand what you are saying, you’re failing to understand that I’m saying that a behaviour doesn’t mean a person is more vulnerable in and of itself. What I don’t understand is why you’re being so rude about it.

Please stop tagging me @OwlBeThere

I was a goth in the 80s too and this never happened to me or my friends. It’s disgusting and I would absolutely freak if it was one of my kids doing this.

"Well that’s true of literally anyone, I’m simply pointing out that being a goth or in a dom/sub situation isn’t indicative of needing help. That’s all"

it is not necessarily an indication that if they are into dom/sub scene they "need help"
but maybe just maybe they need help with social code where there is some degree of what is acceptable / unacceptable to make the general public a (willing or unwilling) witness of. This applies to lots of things not just being able to "freely display" your sexuality.

I was not a goth but I knew a few and I had absolutely no opinion on their choices.

However my perception is that some of them got their motivation / oxygen from the very narrative of "we are so misunderstood".
Even to the extent that if you tried to engage with them in any way they either said "you just do not understand" (that is assuming they were not trying to recruit you...)
That message "you just do not understand, we are special" is not always helpful and can be used to establish unhealthy relationships or perception of self.

@UhtredRagnarson

Oh Jesus. You’re going in circles here. No one can assume anything. Better to check with the child and be sure than assume she’s grand and not bother.

I completely agree. I wonder if they do it in front of her parents?