To be really shocked by this.

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Today whilst in the park for a walk I saw 4 teenagers, 2 boys & 2 girls. And the boys were "walking" the girls by leads attached to studded collars around their necks.

Is this a thing teenagers do?! It just didn't sit well with me.....

Should've stopped them and said it would be way more subversive if the boys were on leads

Definitely not a new thing.

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bradford/7204543.stm

Seen lots of goths, but have never seen this 'trend'. Completely grim.

@toocold54 thank you!! It was definitely more of the safety aspect of it more than being judgemental. I used to walk around with face jewels on 24/7 I can't judge anyone 😂😂 I don't know why it made me uncomfortable I can't really explain it. It didn't at first but then after a few hours I thought hmmm

I didn't really see if the lead was tight or not, it was attached to her neck and he was holding it and they were walking pretty much next to each other so it wasn't on the floor but he wasn't dragging her.

[quote Crunchymum]Definitely not a new thing.

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bradford/7204543.stm[/quote]
2008! I wonder if these two are still together. And if he's sick of doing all the housework yet because she's his pet

We did this in the 90s. It was a Dom sub thing/shock factor thing. We didn’t do much beyond wear chokers. It’s a perfectly harmless link usually.

There was a phase round our way where dogs ( real ones) were having their collars stolen while out , either off lead in the park or free range (which people often did with dogs , this was in the late 80s)

Mmm aroma de chien

And if he's sick of doing all the housework yet because she's his pet

I’d be willing to walk around with a collar and lead if someone was going to do everything for me

Awful. Shouldn’t be allowed in public. Our society and laws shouldn’t normalise public fetishes.

Doctor, doctor I keep thinking I'm a dog.

Take a seat...

I'm not allowed on the furniture

Boom boom

People misunderstand how the Dom/sub thing works. It works through trust and if and when someone wants out they can. It’s implicit in the relationship. As if happens my boyfriend and I took turns to wear the leads. The split between male/female is pretty even in my experience.

I can't believe someone suggested contacting the police

Well believe it. 14/15 year old girls should not be being led around on dog leads. Regardless of what clothes or lipstick they’re wearing.

Awful. Shouldn’t be allowed in public. Our society and laws shouldn’t normalise public fetishes

Do you wear heels? Do you wear skirts? Do you wear make up? Those are all related to ‘fetishes’. The point of a fetish is just about anything can be one. Thick glasses is another. If you outlaw anything that can be fetishised no one would go out in public at all.

that doesn’t change the fact the majority of goths I knew were very troubled young people

Even more reason for someone to check if the they’re actually ok with being led around on a dog lead then. Vulnerable children should be checked on when they appear to be in an abusive situation.

@UhtredRagnarson goth subculture often attracts the ‘weird’ or ‘unpopular’ or ‘uncool’ kids because it’s about acceptance regardless of who you are. That doesn’t mean they need help.

[quote OwlBeThere]@UhtredRagnarson goth subculture often attracts the ‘weird’ or ‘unpopular’ or ‘uncool’ kids because it’s about acceptance regardless of who you are. That doesn’t mean they need help.[/quote]
It also doesn’t meant they dont.

Well believe it. 14/15 year old girls should not be being led around on dog leads. Regardless of what clothes or lipstick they’re wearing.

And if it was their own request or they were perfectly willing to do so? What do you honestly think the police are going to do?

I don't agree with it before someone starts but it's not (currently) illegal. The police wouldn't do anything - at most 'have a word'.

"People misunderstand how the Dom/sub thing works. It works through trust and if and when someone wants out they can"

yes but the point is that they were leading / being led around by a dog chain in a public place for everyone of all ages in society to see.
So if you are saying this is ok because it is a fetish which must be accepted for universal consumption by the public, what other aspects of Dom/Sub behaviour do you say should also be freely displayed in public for all to see whether people want to see it or not?

it is one thing two adults agreeing to lead / be led round by a dog chain in their own home. I really think it is another thing to do it in a public park where all ages of people are. No doubt I will be flamed for havin that opinion in 2021.

And if it was their own request or they were perfectly willing to do so? What do you honestly think the police are going to do?

Check on them? Have a conversation away from the people walking them on leads and make sure they aren’t hurt or being forced to do it. Is that a radical idea?

This may have already been posted. I see the Bradford one has but this is los Angeles
www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/dominatrix-photographed-leading-man-chain-22873953

I'm still goth, and yet I think children or anyone being walked on a lead is vile.
They can dress as they like but that is too far.

@Spied

How embarrassing. In years to come they'll look back and be mortified.

As will the group of teenage girls I saw a couple of weeks ago drinking coke from baby bottles 🙄

I think we've all done things as teens that we've looked back on in horrified embarrassment

@sst1234

One word....weirdos. Sorry if that offends people but it’s true.

Well aren't you a delight. Nice mentality.

@Bubblebu

"People misunderstand how the Dom/sub thing works. It works through trust and if and when someone wants out they can"

yes but the point is that they were leading / being led around by a dog chain in a public place for everyone of all ages in society to see.
So if you are saying this is ok because it is a fetish which must be accepted for universal consumption by the public, what other aspects of Dom/Sub behaviour do you say should also be freely displayed in public for all to see whether people want to see it or not?

it is one thing two adults agreeing to lead / be led round by a dog chain in their own home. I really think it is another thing to do it in a public park where all ages of people are. No doubt I will be flamed for havin that opinion in 2021.

YANBU I don't want my children seeing that crap and tbh I don't want to see it either.

[quote OwlBeThere]@UhtredRagnarson goth subculture often attracts the ‘weird’ or ‘unpopular’ or ‘uncool’ kids because it’s about acceptance regardless of who you are. That doesn’t mean they need help.[/quote]
I agree this is likely true. As mentioned above my group have goths, indies and me a preppy type dancer! But we were all misfits in our way. Unsettled/unhappy home lives, one had an obvious skin disorder, didn't feel equal in our family settings.

We were in fact in hindsight a bunch of kids bonded by our want to be in a group that wouldn't judge us - so quite odd that when we were out as a group because of our mix of subcultures it happened even more!