to expect to have more disposable income than single mums claiming benefits

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i no longer know why me and dh bother, he works full time and i work part time so that i can juggle the child care.

i know of 3 single mums who stay near me who seem to have more money than i can dream of, out every weekend, always shopping and 2 of them manage to run cars.

i know the benefit system is needed by some people but it seems to be a complete joke these days, the wasters in this country are leading the life of reilly while the rest of us are left to slog our guts out to pay for there existence.

no doubt i will get flamed for this post but i have been out xmas shopping today trying to work to a budget then i stand next to these people at the school gates and hear about all the grants they are entitled to so they can buy xmas presents, one of them has even cut back the last 2 months and managed to save £800, it would take me bloody months to save that up.

ok rant over, deep down i am glad i am not one of these people and i do actually work for what i have but it still pisses me of.

Peachy , sounds crap mate. That sounds far worse; so do you get the disapproving 'that child needs taking in hand' glares from complete twats, less knowledgeable people?

Sorry for your dh as well that must be really hard to cope with on top of your dss issues, is he having treatment and is it clinical or bi-polar?

yes inthegutter, funny how these people think they are to good to clean toilets.

I didn't write that comment, inthegutter. And there's no rule that says we all have to answer it.

But nevermind. Really, nevermind.

IITG everyone is entitled to subsidised childcare up to a certain level of income if they work over a set number of hours, unless they ahve a stay at home partner of course 9there is a get out clause on this we could use but don't want to as it would be - cheating!). As longa s the same options are availabe for all, how is it unfair? you COULD theoretically downsize and earn enough to qualify if you wisehed- as could we all. Mind you, it would reduce your choices- nanny fee's for example cannot be reclaimed.

oh Dog - get back to the teen pages sites where you belong, please? and I hope to god you never have anything wrong with you.

Erm dog- excuse me, he HAS a job. A full time night job, despite being advised to give it up by the GP. AND he runs his own business as well! So please don't even try that......

Wisteria- clinical, but he is trialling prozac and hopes to be abck in his job any day now (you know, the one he doesn't have.....) and yes I get those comments LOL, I just hand them the NAS 'thic chils has ASD' cards now, very effective

Thanks expat, comment on my professional abilites now eh? What a fecking joke this thread has become!!!!!!!

Hopefully he'll control it soon then. The problem with it is that as soon as people start to feel better they think they don't need the drugs anymore and stop taking them, then spiralling into deeper depression. It is worthwhile getting him to talk to a counsellor as well. The MIND website is quite good, so I understand.

Those cards sound great although I think I'd prefer - mind your own beeswax, you judgemental cow ones tbh!!

Unless you've ever been a single mum struggling on benefits I don't think you are entitled to any opinion whatsoever.

This thread reads very smugly and Tory and leaves a nasty taste. Are you all so resentful that you would force your views on others and presume that you know everything about any given situation?

Oh aren't we all Conservative? Thatcher ain't in it!

touche, inthegutter, touche.

Dog i reported your last post as it was clearly about my Dh (and the you people- fuck off!) comment- and was so clearly absed on nothing of any substance at all. certainly not a reading of my past posts.

thanks, but please spare the insults in the first place. I think it's pretty low to make comments about other people's ability to do their job when you know nothing about it. I wouldn't dream of making snide comments that imply you're crap at your job.

Peachy, these people can't waste time actually reading your posts you know! They have made up their minds without needing to listen or do any research whatsoever, they don't even have to know you or your circumstances. They are all-knowing and we should bow down to their superior intellect.

Bless them.

I really can't believe this thread. I hope none of you ever need to claim benefits.

Peachy - ignore them! Peachy's dh works bloody hard.

I have been a single parent on benefits about 5 years ago and it was a lot easiar to manage my money than it is now .
I was also to find out yesterday that someone I know who is on benefits is off to a health farm for two days this week.

So pjgirl, would you assume that everyone on benefits is a lazy fat slob because of that one person you've heard of?

Narrow minds equate to very low intellect.

harman: but single parents CAN work - when their kids are at school, surely????

hahahaha, of course, because there are tons of jobs out there that are from 9:30-2:30, and thats only if the job is close to the school and the parent drives.

I split with my xDP when DS was 8months and DD was 5years old, so DD was at school and DS went to the closest nursery to her school, which was about 10/15 mins walk (I cant drive and I couldnt afford to start learning then,
also they were not on the same bus route so it was eaier to walk).
I managed to get a job in the village between the nursery and the school, so had to walk from home to school, then to nursery then to job, taking about an hour, go to work, then do the return journey.
Guess how much extra I got a week???

About 10-15pounds. I may as well have stayed on income support and worked 3 hours, 1 evening a week as a cleaner somewhere, income support actually allows you to recieve a small amount of money from working before you have to stop claiming.

Thats why many lone parents (lets not call them single mothers eh? men are in this predicament too) do not go to work. I was lucky enough to get that job in the village, otherwise I doubt I would have been able to fit in getting to/from work and children to/from childcare/school in time to actually do my job.

Yes, there are people who pretend to have 'depression' (not slagging anyone who really does suffer here) but it's just like those who claim their children are 'misunderstood' or have 'behavioural problems' when really they are just little shits. It happens, but nowhere near as often as people with their nose up in the air about benefit claimants would have you believe.

'I wouldn't dream of making snide comments that imply you're crap at your job. '

No, you just save that for total strangers who may or may not even be on full benefits and about whose situation you know nothing.

VS what job can you think of that allows you flexible hours so you can take your kids to school and pick them up, and gives you school holidays off?

Not many because I've looked.

Thanks Jo - have to send that letter abck this week! haven't forgot!
And Rhubs- appreciated!

I haven't made a single snide comment about anyone!So don't try that one! I've said all along that people who are capable of working and choose not to should not be supported by the state. Simple. Not personal, not offensive. It's a valid point of view. You are entitled to disagree with it. You are not entitled to make bitchy comments about my professional ability!

I didn't say that what I said was that when I was on benefits I found my money a lot easiar to manage ,I also said that I was shocked to find out that she was going to a health farm I can't remember implying anywhere that anyone was a lazy fat slob

school cleaner

school dinner lady

class room assistant

nursery nurse

lollypop lady

lunchtime superviser

lab assistant in a secondary school

but of course none of these will be glamerous enough for a dole scrounger who is waiting on bigger and better things

for the not so thick work shy how about school teacher

Inthegutter,

You say everyone who can work, should not be supported by the state

What about pensioners claiming their state pension, many of them can still work.

Dp you get child benefit, or child tax credits...afterall, they are ^state benefits