To be pissed off that parks are closed?

[breadcheeseandpickle]

AIBU to think this is not on?

I have complied with rules but despite some restrictions being lifted there still isn’t much on, and waking the streets is really no fun.

It's no coincidence that these areas are also the places where they've been continuously breaking up parties since last September. The thing in common is the behavior of the people who live there.

Lack of bins is no excuse. If people are capable of carrying packages of food, cans of drink etc to the park they are more than capable of carrying THEIR litter home again.

If people hadn't behaved so badly - gathering in large groups, not observing social distancing (though I admit when it is crowded this must be hard) and leaving the areas filthy - just foul with strewn litter, broken glass etc - then they might still be open.

I gat so angry with people dumping their trash like this. A bag is light enough to carry to the park when it is full of bottles and sandwiches etc, but suddenly becomes to heaven to carry when all the food has been consumed!

@LakieLady but if they’d fined half those people an £80 fine that’s more than £250K and a good disincentive for those watching 😂

here, the guys who clear up the parks also dig graves

for litter louts? A tad extreme, but I can sympathise

Lack of bins is a big problem here in the SW, bins in the parks are small and not emptied frequently enough. Seagulls and squirrels will grab anything not quite fitting in. Bins on the streets are almost non-existent beyond the city centre. You cant take smelly rubbish home on the bus.

Lack of toilets is also an issue, thank goodness NT have reopened theirs. Council loos close at 4pm. Results are entirely predictable.

It’s unrealistic to expect thousands of people with no outside space, particularly students and parents of young children, to stay indoors. Before COVID, we had litter wardens and on the spot fines and littering behaviour of the residents improved tremendously. Visitors, no change.

They have probably closed them to
a) clean up all the shit left behind by ‘visitors’
b) assess and mend any damage
c) give a clear message that if you wreck the parks, they will be closed.

I’m glad they have closed them. If they had left them open and mistreatment/ littering continued day after day the parks would be beyond repair.

I wonder how many crowds of people would show up day after day if the litter/cans/bottles weren’t cleared up? Just left there.

They did this in the canteen at school once.
All the litter from break was left on tables for lunch. It was disgusting. But it got the message home.

I think you should be upset about people who live near you and their behaviour.

Calling people animals is not the phrase I would use.

www.nottinghampost.com/news/nottingham-news/police-watch-during-large-party-5252426

This was last night at the Rec, absolute nightmare. Tactical Response Team Vans all down my road.

Yes you can take rubbish home on the bus, I do it all the. time I don't belive for one second that empty sandwich packs, crisp packets and empty bottles smell so discusting that you carnt take them on a bus. Wrap them in a bag and get on with it. Blaming . lack of bins is ridiculous. Trying to justify dropping litter because theres no bins or it suddenly becomes smelly is ridiculous. If the rubbish really is that smelly how on earth can you justify dropping it on tne ground. Ignorant to the last.

You cant take smelly rubbish home on the bus.
Why not? Surely the food was just as smelly when up you took it to the park as it is on the way home? And if you are really worried about the small take some carrier bags or small bin bags with you, double bag the rubbish and tie a tight knot in the bag.

I don't have outside space. I've eaten food outdoors this week. When I'd finished I found a bin for it, but if there hadn't been a bin with space I'd have taken the rubbish home on the bus. Of course people shouldn't have to stay indoors, but they certainly shouldn't leave rubbish behind them after their picnic.

the alternative isn't that people don't see each other, that isn't realistic, it's that they socialise indoors and in private gardens (which much more easily turns into indoors).
Only if you are the kind of person who is happy to be responsible for a strangers death or serious illness.

Calling people animals is not the phrase I would use.

I find it's not fair on the animals, in many cases.

Why would rubbish be smelly @NoBetterthanSheShouldBe? Surely if you've had a can of pepsi or a take away coffee it's not different to drinking it on the bus? I can't think of any food (except a burger or fish and chips) that would smell after you've eaten it. Even fruit peel/skins just smell of the fruit - no different to eating it on the bus. And there must be some bins en route to a bus stop or train station surely?

Our local park was busy yesterday. I met a friend for a cuppa (brought ours in a flask each - how sad are we!) and we sat socially distanced, catching up on the last four months. The kids were playing, the school pick up took place so parents were out and about, there was a group of teenagers hanging out and the local dog walkers were letting the dogs off the lead. No trouble and we were some of the last to pack up and leave. Not a bit of litter.

Unfortunately it's a lack of respect for the space and for the people doing the clearing up that's at the root of all this. It's very sad but, as a friend who lives near a Bournemouth beach told me last summer, everyone else shouldn't have to live with the mess. She had a bloke pee-ing in her garden last year - nice.

If you make a mess, clear it up. You wouldn't leave your living room with cans/crisp packets etc all over the carpet so why is it OK to leave a park in that state?

Ultimately, if no one clears it up, you'll be sitting in other people's crap when you're sunbathing. Lovely!

@MyDcAreMarvel

the alternative isn't that people don't see each other, that isn't realistic, it's that they socialise indoors and in private gardens (which much more easily turns into indoors). Only if you are the kind of person who is happy to be responsible for a strangers death or serious illness.

Stop being so dramatic. Everything’s down - cases, hospitalisations, deaths. The chances of killing a stranger are minimal.

It’s disappointing for those who behave, but the parks were trashed, covered with litter and no social distancing. The council had to divert much needed resources to clean up. Closing them temporarily is justified

If it's because of what happened recently, I can understand why. All the rubbish scattered on the ground was horrible.

@breadcheeseandpickle

And yet again it’s parents and children who are screwed over.

How have you worked that out? In most local parks it's been parents and children who are a big part of the problem. You might well have complied with the rules. But the hundreds of people in the parks were not complying with the rules, and were expecting other people to have to clean up their (potentially infected) rubbish after them. Public space is a privilege and not a right. If people cannot and will not respect themselves and others, then public authorities are left with no alternatives. If you want someone to blame, blame those who caused this to happen.

STAY AT HOME
is what those with big homes and gardens love to shriek
YANBU

I'll take a punt: people who have gardens most likely turned round and went home to their garden. They'll be fine.

It is down to a lack of respect for everything, the parks, the other people who want to use them, the wildlife etc etc

Sympathies to you OP.

When I was looking at the footage on the news I couldn't help but think that this is probably going to be replicated all over England. I am not clued up on the particular conditions that meant that Nottingham seemed most susceptible to this kind of anti-social behaviour on such a large scale. What was the police response like? What's the breakdown of population on age - is Nottingham a particularly 'young' city, lots of students (as someone else has said) How badly has it been hit by this Lockdown in terms of deaths, redundancies, lay-offs, historic chronic unemployment after the closure of the pits, poverty etc...

I was watching a programme about the 80s the other night and remarked to my other half that the riots of 1981 are exactly 40 years ago - Ghost Town by the Specials 'The people getting angry' vibe. I'm starting to think that this Summer has a similar powder-keg potential and needs managing very, very carefully.

It's not just the disgusting dropping of litter - people were vandalising things, breaking branches off trees & so on.

I can't understand the mentality

I can't believe the way people have behaved. I'm embarrassed to be British looking at the thuggish scenes in parks of people drinking, littering and being in rowdy groups.

I couldn't give a rat's arse that people are bored and want to see friends there is no excuse for the way people have behaved the last few days.

The sort of cunts who behave like these littering morons - gathering in huge groups drinking, fighting, drug-taking - are not the sort of people who will have been carefully following social distancing rules until now, so the talk of them getting together in private gardens and homes if the parks are closed is utterly irrelevant.

They will have been doing that, and whatever the fuck else they like, throughout!

If disorder continues the Police will close them.