"Miljea
Now we have moved on from the White Heat of Brexit, I understand some stuff more.
I am a committed Remainer; but I do understand that many of the obvious losses people like me feel mean nothing to many, many Leavers.
Up front, buying stuff from the EU has become so fraught with hidden, unknown costs, I'm not buying (and, to my surprise, 😉 Britain doesn't appear to make these things); but, it's quite possible many Leavers neither had the cash or interest in buying such stuff.
Our retirement plans, a villa in Spain, are shot out of the water; however, I imagine most Brexiters had never imagined the possibility. They correctly say they'll still get their week on the Med, though I doubt many will be able to afford it.
My DC can't do Erasmus (and we aren't rich enough to afford Turing); but I guess the possibility of a child doing that wasn't even a consideration for many Brexiter voters.
Your average Brexiter probably had zero interest in the importance of international ties in the worlds of science and research.
Of course, I can plainly see the lies and manipulation that caused people to vote that way. I guess the vast majority had not the faintest concept of how the EU worked (which would explain why the most googled term on June 24th 2016 was 'what is the EU?').
Educated, reasonably well off people like us will, one way or another, weather the oncoming storm.
But my sympathy for the fate of the Tory, Brexiter voter is all but gone.
I feel my life is diminished by Brexit, but the effect is more cultural than financial. Though that hasn't helped. I suspect that once the smokescreen of Covid clears, some nasty realities will dawn. Tho many will take longer than your average shell-fisherman.
HOWEVER, and here's a thing: I actually think that, in terms of maturity, Britain -certainly England- kind of needs the kicking that's coming its way. We need to learn our place in the world. We have openly, democratically and loudly chosen to diminish our influence in the world. We had a bloody good innings, sitting at many top tables we'd long since lost our right to sit at.
But maybe we might, as a country, due to Brexit, along with many other missteps- grow up from our little Englander, flag waving, Rule Britannia mentality.
This spanking may well yet do us good.
Luckily in my family we all hold Antipodean passports... 😂
I literally don’t know where to start with your arrogance and contempt for people who don’t happen to share your view. Leavers don’t have cash to buy EU ‘stuff’ should they wish to do so, only want a ‘week on the med ‘ but probably can’t afford it now ,have no interest in science and research. You need to remove your privileged blinkers .We are educated and would probably be classed as beyond reasonably well off (top 10% income) and we voted for Brexit as did many of of our friends including many Oxbridge graduates so not lacking in education and we are all from working class families so presumably don’t fit your mould of the Tory Brexiteer voter. In fact I am staunch Labour and have never voted Conservative in my life. My dd is at Oxbridge and is a fervent Lexiteer as are many of her friends. I fully accept even now that there were strong arguments in favour of both Leave and Remain which is why so many people struggled to make a decision on how to vote - it was by no means clear cut but people like you who choose to portray everyone who voted differently to yourself as ignorant and ill educated do nothing to further your case."
And breathe.
I never have, and never will engage with user15456765436577.
Give yourself a name that is recognisable, and attributable.