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annoyed or flattered- wolf whistles?

98 replies

Nothingyet · 29/03/2021 09:03

Today's report gets the usual DM reactionary backlash:www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9411429/Scotland-Yard-chief-urges-women-feel-uncomfortable-wolf-whistling-report-incidents.html#comments

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Lucent · 29/03/2021 16:01

@Ted27

I was out walking yesterday and was approachec twice ( two separate men)- give us a smile luv it might never happen type comments

whils theoretically I would be in favour of reporting it would be pointless, no idea who they were, nothing could or would be done about it

If it was a building site, garage or similar and it was a regular occurrence then I would be having a word with the employer

Absolutely. Because while you're walking down the road minding your own business, you're neglecting your female duty to (a) be decorative and (b) to 'make an effort' to sparkle a little because a man is passing.
SquatBetty · 29/03/2021 16:02

I truly pity those who actually see it as flattering - how unbelievably desperate you must be for male validation.

Iremembertheelderlykoreanlady · 29/03/2021 16:06

If someone wolf whistled at me I would assume they were being ironic 🤷‍♀️😅

CuthbertDibbleandGrubb · 29/03/2021 16:06

Imagine if you were a 12 or 13 year old and a man old enough to be your dad did this, then tell me if you think the practice is acceptable.

rosie1959 · 29/03/2021 16:08

I'd be amazed I am 62 doesnt happen anymore

Planty13 · 29/03/2021 16:16

It’s gross. I couldn’t leave the house without getting catcalled between the ages of 13-19. I hated it.

ChaToilLeam · 29/03/2021 16:18

Thankfully it doesn’t happen to me any more. I hated it. Disgusting sleazy men with an inflated sense of entitlement to comment on women’s bodies - yuck.

stackemhigh · 29/03/2021 16:23

I don't get tooted at anymore, and don't miss it at all. Becoming invisible has its benefits.

ilikebungalows · 29/03/2021 16:33

Used to happen a lot when I was younger and it made me feel very uncomfortable. Now that I have joined the ranks of the invisible it isn't an issue any more, thank goodness.

MassDebate · 29/03/2021 16:34

It used to happen to me a lot, and I remember it happening as a young teenager while walking along the street with my mum. It has never felt anything other than acutely embarrassing yet also threatening, and IME if it doesn't get a reaction it’s swiftly followed by abuse (“miserable cow”/“what’s the matter with you” etc etc). I am and always have been petite, and I hate the vulnerable feeling it gives me when walking past a group of men. Not a compliment at all IMO - it’s about showing women and girls up as mere objects to be appraised by the male gaze

Crowsaregreat · 29/03/2021 16:36

Has anyone ever responded to a catcall by going 'that random bloke shouting at me is someone I want to be sexually intimate with'?!

Jojoanna · 29/03/2021 16:39

Hate it ! Always have done

SarahBellam · 29/03/2021 16:54

Can you imagine what creeps those men are in their daily lives? If they’re whistling at you they’re whistling at every other woman minding her own business. They think it’s acceptable that some other letch would do that to their wives and daughters. They’re not whistling at you because they think you’re a wonderful woman but because they think you’re a piece of meat in the shop window for them to slobber over. There are probably sufficient women with low self esteem to ensure they get their leg over enough to make the slimeball antics worth their while.

CarrieMoonbeams · 29/03/2021 16:55

Since the cloak of invisibility (aka the menopause) descended, this hasn't happened to me, thankfully. I used to hate it.

My friend made me laugh when she said "I always wonder what they'd do if you ran up to them and said "Well, how could I refuse such an articulate offer? Yes, let's go and make babies, now!!""😂

Pathetic.

Ted27 · 29/03/2021 17:05

@Lucent

quite, not only that, I’m short, fat, 56, grey, and having just come off the allotment I was a little on the grubby side, hell I wasnt even wearing mascara and I still can’t walk down the street

23PissOffAvenueWF · 29/03/2021 18:21

@SmeleanorSmellstrop

Not reading the articke but based on your question, it's never bothered me. Always saw it as a harmless joke verging on slightly flattering. Feel very unreasonable to hold this unpopular opinion though!
You can hold whatever opinion you like. But what’s flattering about being whistled at by the type of man you wouldn’t even wipe your shoe on?

They’re inevitably knuckle-dragging, illiterate, Sun-reading, white van men. Who could possibly find attention from such a lowly specimen flattering...?

greycloudysky · 29/03/2021 18:27

Daily Mail readers are obviously the Neanderthals whistling at women, so they see an article against it as a threat to their entitlement. Probably still believe that giving 'er indoors a backhander is the key to a happy marriage.

Bimblybomeyelash · 29/03/2021 18:29

It been a long time since I was last wolf whistled at, as I am old and invisible, but I used to HATE it. It made me feel, at best, uncomfortable and at worst, vulnerable.

Hastybird · 29/03/2021 18:30

True meaning: You Woman - your body is public property and mine to comment, shout or whistle at as I see fit. If it pleases me I'll whistle, and if it doesn't I'll abuse you. It's up to me, I'm a man and you are not a person but an object, you only exist as seen through my eyes. You're either a princess on a pedalstal or nothing. You're not a person to be engaged with, talked to and understood - with my whistle I show you that I don't care about you being complimented or insulted - you're reduced to my object.

It's not a fucking compliment.

Fgs1 · 29/03/2021 18:34

It’s nearly always a pair or group of man in a van or on a building site who target a lone woman by whistling or shouting something primarily to make each other laugh. No I’m not flattered Confused

Hastybird · 29/03/2021 18:34

I always find it helpful to imagine the behaviour in different contexts which expose how crazy and unacceptable it is:

A woman whistling at a group of builders as she passes them

Boris Johnson whistling at the Queen

A teacher whistling at a former pupil

It's just grim, rude and weird.

NiceGerbil · 29/03/2021 18:38

Ugh the fucking met.

I mean FFS.

This has really pissed me off.

They KNOW. they fucking know what the reaction of much of the press and public will be if they say this. They know it will all be. It's a compliment, women look to be offended these days, doesn't do any harm.

I had a quick look at her statement and she talked about harassment. Report it. Good. Why not use example of having abuse shouted, being flashed at, that sort of thing.

They KNOW. they are not stupid.

The murder with one of theirs arrested.
Their handling of the vigil/protest.

And now they flagv the thing they KNOW will get the attention off then and onto silly women making a fuss.

The absolute bastards.

I have lived in met area all my life. They're not interested in way worse. The suspect had exposed himself inside a ?Macdonald's days earlier in front of a few people and with his car outside. I doubt they even looked into it. They had his reg and phone footage I believe.

BASTARDS.

this has infuriated me.

Anon778833 · 29/03/2021 18:40

Being cat called in the street isn’t a compliment. As such I hate it. Men who do this think women are beneath them.

Anon778833 · 29/03/2021 18:44

My sister likes it - makes her feel she’s wanted.

That’s so sad.

TeaAndWaffles · 29/03/2021 19:32

The people I know who are flattered by it tend to be the ones who equate their self worth to how attractive they are to men. It's kind of sad too how the narrative online seems to be that women who dislike it are just ones who are jealous of the aforementioned women. So much for progress!

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