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‘D’H has announced that Covid doesn’t exist.

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OutOfLine · 27/03/2021 11:05

Name changed for this.

One year since lockdown 1 began and DH has announced that Covid does not exist.

The illness is ‘no different to flu’, he is not having the vaccine because ‘he doesn’t need to’ and if he falls ill with any symptoms listed as Covid he will not be taking a test and will phone in sick with backache or some such nonsense.

AIBU to think WTF?
Apparently he has thought this all along and decided to let us know as he is sick of ‘having his freedom taken away from him’.

What started as a chat about weekly testing ended up with this.

I don’t know what to do with this information. All year (pre. weekly testing /vaccine rollout) he’s just gone along with it all.

So, along with AIBU to think he has lost his mind, WWYD or say in this situation?

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dottiedodah · 27/03/2021 13:58

We have good friends that seem to think the same thing! Quite rational and sensible up to now! They seem to think there have been many deaths from the Vaccine(Er not quite as many as from the illness you know!) and that it is all a plot by the big Pharmas! I think if you are normally happy ,then you will have to let him make up his own mind .No one can be forced into having it either by the Government or their own families!

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OutOfLine · 27/03/2021 14:00

Jesus: I'd laugh more if it wasn't for the fact these people are dangerous.

Yes to this!

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IEat · 27/03/2021 14:01

It’s his opinion. If it’s what he thinks so be it. Change the subject.

HowManyToes · 27/03/2021 14:01

I couldn’t live with someone this wilfully ignorant. I’ve had flu. I even had the swine flu, it was the worst I’ve ever felt. But then I got COVID last October and I’ve still not fully recovered. I genuinely thought I was going to die the night I was taken to hospital by ambulance. I’m mid 30s, good general health, reasonably fit.

Bearnecessity · 27/03/2021 14:02

I am Outofline...sorry not my most sympathetic post,,,,it is the views of other mumsnetters so beautifully put that had me in stitches. I have nothing to add regard your dilemma....good luck with it.

TheCrowening · 27/03/2021 14:02

@justasking111

LTB because he does not agree with his wife. What are some of you sniffing. They do not agree end of. Do your spouses have to agree with you each and every time. You sound like my MIL.
For me, there’s a massive difference between a difference of opinion and a belief in conspiracy theory type madness. I couldn’t respect a person in the latter group, and as such couldn’t be married to them.
CustardySergeant · 27/03/2021 14:02

"He doesn’t wear a mask because he has had operations on his nose and can only breathe through his mouth."

That makes no sense to me. As it happens, I also can't breathe through my nose, but masks cover both nose and mouth and whether you breathe through your nose, your mouth or both, a mask doesn't stop you breathing otherwise no one would be able to breathe would they? I can breathe through my mouth while wearing a mask with no problem whatsoever.

knittingaddict · 27/03/2021 14:03

@OutOfLine

Sparklesocks

The ‘logic’ is explained coherently.
He has an answer for everything but will dismiss counter arguments.

I'm surprised he can manage a decent response. Most conspiracy theorists just tell you to "do the research", by which they mean follow a youtube video down the rabbit hole.
chipsandgin · 27/03/2021 14:04

Imagine if the vaccine was designed to make people sterile (as one of the pp’s mentioned is one of the more bonkers conspiracies theories!)...following that theory to its logical conclusion the only people then left procreating would be total nutjobs & the future planet would be populated by tin foil hat wearing loons! I’d love to know what people believe is the purpose of the masterminds behind that strategy!! The thought of a future planet populated solely by the spawn of humans who can’t understand basic science & deny irrefutable facts is scary, but the flat earth society would probably become very popular 😂!

Still, at least back in the real world it’s just a select few believing that nonsense. Sorry to hear about your DH OP, I wonder if you can counter whatever shit he’s filled his head with with some really simply put proof & explanations about the reality of the situation, not sure what the best source of that would be but I’m sure there is something out there!?

underneaththeash · 27/03/2021 14:06

I think unfortunately they way that google search and facebook work is that once you've searched for some form of covid-denying wankery, lots more show up.

And sadly some people are very easily taken in either through mental health issues or just not being very bright.

ceilingsand · 27/03/2021 14:06

Tell him that the biggest conspiracy theorist in America caught covid and his wife died of it.

I agree it's pointless arguing with him and I'd tell him I wouldn't. I have relatives-although not close ones-who send me videos with this kind of crap. At first I sent them research and evidence based answers to it, then I realised they do not want to hear anything that doesn't tally with their world view.

MiaChia · 27/03/2021 14:11

@OutOfLine

"So a qualification is not in Science or medicine it is in ‘shoe lace tying’ ?
Don’t be ridiculous!
You sound more barmy than my DH!"

I am nothing like your barmy DH. I am far braver and will allow qualified medical personnel to vaccinate me. Needles hurt but I have big girl pants. Would your OH like to borrow a pair? Does he prefer white or black lace? I have both available for him to use.

I am also not a conspiracy theorist like your barmy DH. In short, you married a man with little to no common sense so I reserve the right to pity you. You may pity me if you like but I'm not the one one married to him, ha ha.

Pinksatin · 27/03/2021 14:13

Couldn’t be with someone like that

ceilingsand · 27/03/2021 14:21

And @Nitpickpicnic has it with the type, too. It often ends with anti women statements.

Lunar567 · 27/03/2021 14:21

Well done to your husband!
He has not got brainwashed by Covid propaganda.
You should listen to his arguments, he will be proven right.

KFB1978 · 27/03/2021 14:28

Good for him. Whether he's right or not. He has is own opinion and choice and you lot are bloody scary. As said he's probably far better educated than most of you on this thread. I love the fact you dismiss any view other than expressed by the mainstream media even though they are proven liars. It's his choice leave him alone. Just cos you want some holiday that you won't be allowed to go on anyway.

BlackPuddingEggs · 27/03/2021 14:29

I think you need to divide this into different areas

  1. He doesn’t believe COVID exists - I would just ignore this and don’t discuss it with him. It doesn’t really matter and it’s up to you to decide later if you think it’s a mental health reaction or he is just a bit dense. It’s up to you if you can live with knowing that going forward.

  2. He doesn’t want the vaccine -that’s up to him as it will have most effects on him. I know we need as many people as possible to have it but it doesn’t need to be 100% take up. He may catch covid and be extremely ill. He may not be able to travel abroad or visit venues that demand proof of vaccine but that’s his decision.

  3. He won’t self isolate or take part in testing - I would make this non negotiable. If your children are at school and you have been asked to test, tell him if can choose to join in the testing or move out. If he shows symptoms and refuses to test tell him you will call his work and tell them. He can then isolate within your home for 10 days. It doesn’t matter if he believes in covid or not. These are the rules and he must stick to them.

I would be very hard line on point 3 but just ignore any discussion on the others.

MiaChia · 27/03/2021 14:33

@KFB1978

I'm sorry, you think this man is "educated"? Educated at The National School for Barmy Idiots? Educated by less than normally intelligent amoeba? I hope he's paid back his student loan for such a superb education 🤣What exactly is the median IQ level these days? Obviously it's descended to single figures ...

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OutOfLine · 27/03/2021 14:34

That makes no sense to me. As it happens, I also can't breathe through my nose, but masks cover both nose and mouth and whether you breathe through your nose, your mouth or both, a mask doesn't stop you breathing otherwise no one would be able to breathe would they? I can breathe through my mouth while wearing a mask with no problem whatsoever.

It would be a massive coincidence if you had the exact same condition as my DH. (Without me actually telling you what it is!) You seem to know a lot about what he can/can’t do!

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OutOfLine · 27/03/2021 14:35

@BlackPuddingEggs

I think you need to divide this into different areas

  1. He doesn’t believe COVID exists - I would just ignore this and don’t discuss it with him. It doesn’t really matter and it’s up to you to decide later if you think it’s a mental health reaction or he is just a bit dense. It’s up to you if you can live with knowing that going forward.

  2. He doesn’t want the vaccine -that’s up to him as it will have most effects on him. I know we need as many people as possible to have it but it doesn’t need to be 100% take up. He may catch covid and be extremely ill. He may not be able to travel abroad or visit venues that demand proof of vaccine but that’s his decision.

  3. He won’t self isolate or take part in testing - I would make this non negotiable. If your children are at school and you have been asked to test, tell him if can choose to join in the testing or move out. If he shows symptoms and refuses to test tell him you will call his work and tell them. He can then isolate within your home for 10 days. It doesn’t matter if he believes in covid or not. These are the rules and he must stick to them.

I would be very hard line on point 3 but just ignore any discussion on the others.

Thank you for this! 👍🏻
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Humpty11 · 27/03/2021 14:35

I’d sit him down to watch some of the hospital programmes that were filmed in the first wave and see if he’s still keen to believe it doesn’t exist.
This lockdown has been so much worse for hospitals and younger, healthy adults have been affected more.

Perhaps his MH has been affected more than you thought and this is his way of coping? 🤷🏼‍♀️

KFB1978 · 27/03/2021 14:36

Educated people tend to question things (rightly or wrongly) where as less educated people tend to just go with the crowd. So yes it does seem this way to me.

EveryDayIsADuvetDay · 27/03/2021 14:37

Just make a back up plan of friends/relatives to go stay with when he gets it, let him fend for himself with his "backache" and keep your fingers crossed that he gets it really really badly.

Twerp

PuzzledObserver · 27/03/2021 14:38

I'm anti lockdown but CV and had the vax. This seems to confuse people.

That doesn’t confuse me, because there is a logical case to be made against lockdowns (though I don’t agree with it) but there is no logical case to be made against vaccines (medical contraindications excepted).

The people who confuse me are the people who are against EVERYTHING - lockdowns, masks, AND vaccinations. If they got their way, Covid would run rife, millions would die AND economies would be wrecked. It sounds as though OP’s DH may have become one of those Sad

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OutOfLine · 27/03/2021 14:38

I'm surprised he can manage a decent response. Most conspiracy theorists just tell you to "do the research", by which they mean follow a youtube video down the rabbit hole.
Got to admit I did ask for links. He yet to provide me with any!

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