SERIOUSLY??? People may quit if forced to work from home, Rishi Sunak warns ?

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No Mr Sunak. Working from home saves me 2 FUCKING HOURS of daily commute + rush hour stress + travel costs.

I work from home now. I am more productive, less stressed and happier.

I think also if you took a job on the proviso you would work in a office then your employer has every right to insist you do so . If you dont want to , there are a 100 people willing to fill your space

Basically this.

Lots of people seem to think they can call the shots on this. Erm, no.

WFH is screwing the mental health of as many people as it is helping the mental health of others....

It's hard to tell if that's true though, when so many people's mental heath is affected by lockdowns and the restrictions we've been living under for the last 12 months.

WFH is good for some and bad for others, sure, but the whole world we're currently living in due to Covid is not good for people.

I like wfh now I have purchased my amazing new desk

However I wouldn't mind going to work Mondays as husband doesn't work Mondays and I find it really irritating

The pandemic has had a huge negative impact on women and their careers. Much of the burden has fallen to women. So many are deciding not to pursue their careers, they're not being chosen for roles/promotions etc. I think being back in the office (even some of the time) will be massively beneficial to women and especially mums.

Lots of people seem to think they can call the shots on this. Erm, no.

I agree that it's down to your employer. If you don't like WFH and the office is shut indefinitely then you can either quit, look for another job or work remotely outside your home somewhere else, if practical. If you don't like open plan offices or long commutes and your employer wants you back in the office, then you can either suck it up, quit or look for another job.

If you want to be your own boss you can run your own business, or become self-employed as an Uber driver or something. Otherwise your boss calls the shots.

If you like being around people though it's a lot easier to at least find alternative work if you're forced to WFH.

WFH is good for some and bad for others, sure, but the whole world we're currently living in due to Covid is not good for people.

I disagree that people can’t judge the impact of wfh only. Many people know very well wfh isn’t good for them. I’m now back in the office half time and I’m like a different person.

@TheKeatingFive thanks for reminding us we're mostly at complete mercy of our employers until we retire at 75 (or never!?). The landlords call the shots. The owners of chain restaurant joints call the shots. Rishi calls the shots. You're not wrong. Back in the Victorian times, people believed that forcing kids to work was totally fine. Thankfully times change.

@TheKeatingFive

WFH is good for some and bad for others, sure, but the whole world we're currently living in due to Covid is not good for people.

I disagree that people can’t judge the impact of wfh only. Many people know very well wfh isn’t good for them. I’m now back in the office half time and I’m like a different person.

I've agreed it just doesn't suit some people.

But how many people enjoyed WFH last summer but have struggled this winter? I like WFH but i've found this year a struggle. Lockdowns take their toll.

I'm sick of the same four walls. I'm posting looking at them again on a Friday night, when normally i'd be out enjoying myself.

Why did women and the careers suffer disproportionately? Where are the men and the dads in this? Surely single mothers aren't the majority? We should hold them to account.

thanks for reminding us we're mostly at complete mercy of our employers

If you signed the contract you signed the contract. I’m only stating the bleeding obvious.

Other options to salaried employment are available.

I agree that it's down to your employer. If you don't like WFH and the office is shut indefinitely then you can either quit, look for another job or work remotely outside your home somewhere else, if practical. If you don't like open plan offices or long commutes and your employer wants you back in the office, then you can either suck it up, quit or look for another job.

true

but...

it's very expensive and time consuming to recruit. Contrary to what people think, it's never in the best interest of your employer to have a constant turnover of staff - with the possible exception of the lowest paid, very basic and unskilled roles who require next to no training.

WFH will be a definite perk to attract top employees.

If it was really "them" against "us" and employers calling all the shots, we would all work on minimum wage, have the most minimum leave, no bonus and so on.

There's a reason why the package that goes with your salary exist and why it does matter.

Imposing the old-fashion working in the open-plan office is unlikely to be the most cost-productive solution.

Jobs that cannot be done from home won't suddenly change!

@TheKeatingFive other than being born rich, being a rare example of a successful entrepreneur or selling the Big Issue, there really aren't than many attractive options left.

I have had 3 of my team members resign since my company announced that we would permanently be working from home. So people will absolutely quit if more companies force this on their employees. We have also a big increase in mental health issues caused by working from home. I quite often have to deal with upset team members who just can't cope with the isolation, this isn't going to change after lockdown. People used to rely of work to make friends etc but how is this going to happen when you have never met your colleagues in real life?

I am glad that WFH home works for some people, but please don't assume we are all the same. I think a lot of people are underestimating the negative side affects of working from home and I think in a few years we will really start to see the negative impact it has.

@User133847

I’m young and just started a new job in November and I love working from home. I was in an office based role perviously and I just really do not miss the office chit chat or travelling to work. I genuinely do get more enjoyment out of my work when I am able to just sit in my room and get on with it.

I've worked in a lot of offices and it's just people getting on each other's nerves for the most part.

So true I don’t care what you do later or what you had to eat last night or looking at your new dress on the xyz website I just want to do my work and get paid At home i can do that

other than being born rich, being a rare example of a successful entrepreneur or selling the Big Issue, there really aren't than many attractive options left.

Not true at all, I know many people who work for themselves as freelancers or one man bands.

WFH will be a definite perk to attract top employees.

While a degree of flexibility is positive, most young workers don’t want to wfh, so a nice office environment will be as important as it ever was to attract young talent.

@user1497207191a sub category of an entrepreneur. I do admire them tho.

I do wonder whether we will see, in the future, a trend for women to keep WFH to manage the school run/be flexible for kids off sick while men go to the office to 'concentrate', for which read network, and advance their careers that way...

a trend for women to keep WFH to manage the school run/be flexible for kids off sick while men go to the office to 'concentrate', for which read network, and advance their careers that way

This is what I’m afraid of. This will be pretty catastrophic for women. Who has must influence in the meeting? The people in the room or the people on zoom? Doesn’t take a genius.

@tentative3 if women settle for that quietly, that's on them.

As if people can afford to quit willy nilly. What world do these politicians live in?

[quote Moomin12345]@tentative3 if women settle for that quietly, that's on them.[/quote]
@Moomin12345 well thank fuck you told us! Clearly women just needed to object a bit more to a whole load of stuff throughout history and we'd have sorted out this whole equality business a lot sooner.

Ideally, yeah. But we don't have bloody time machines, do we? So how about making our dear husbands pull their weight and do their fair share of childcare and housework NOW?

So true I don’t care what you do later or what you had to eat last night or looking at your new dress on the xyz website I just want to do my work and get paid At home i can do that

The first hour of your working day being taken up by the table behind you loudly dissecting last night's football match. Being sat next to someone all week who has a cold and constantly coughing and spluttering. Picking up germs all the time. The personality clashes. The bitchiness. The interruptions. The toilets being cleaned whenever you need to use them. £4 for a coffee or a sandwich in the shop next door. The commute in and out of the office every day, just hoping the train turns up.

I don't find being in the office enjoyable, but i'm an introvert and would struggle more in a customer facing job. I just want to have my work in front of me and get on with it, without all the bollocks that comes with open plan offices. I can do that WFH.

Yes. I will consider getting a job in a shop or something if it means not being at home all the time.
I'm not stupid enough to have a two-hour commute. That's on you!