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To want social housing for most

261 replies

Jillybons · 21/03/2021 17:53

I find it strange that in the U.K. we are so protective and proud of public healthcare and see it as a universal right regardless of household income (which I fully support).

But when it comes to public housing we vilify it and criticise people who have public houses as ‘less’ than those who rent privately or own houses.

Shouldn’t public housing be the standard for 90% of the population and private housing be the ‘option’ just like private healthcare?

What do you think?

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Thelnebriati · 22/03/2021 22:19

In the UK, the government doesn't control social housing, its owned by local councils and associations.

D1sh0ftheweekend4 · 22/03/2021 22:30

Thelnebriati

Housing was still be under someone else's control

Thelnebriati · 22/03/2021 22:34

No more so than if you live on a boat using hired moorings, or on a caravan on someone else's land.

QuestionEverythingOrBeASheep · 23/03/2021 12:03

@Wondermule

How would that work? What would one do to get a house?
Not be earning over 150k like my neighbours in SH.
QuestionEverythingOrBeASheep · 23/03/2021 12:07

@Jillybons

Imagine it would work somewhat like the Scandinavian system. Obvs this would be HUGE undertaking but Sweden for instance has 50% public housing with 50% private owned
The main difference is Housing is not a business in these countries. Houses are homes and are affordable to the majority. Having a second house to rent out or to have as a holiday home is not the norm. The housing being of a high standard, much higher IMO than typical UK housing. My Ex is Swedish. There was no way in hell I could pursued him to buy over here for 6x10 times the cost of a home in his native land. I understood this but since then our property prices have increased exponentially.
QuestionEverythingOrBeASheep · 23/03/2021 12:08

Increased in the UK that is.

Zenithbear · 23/03/2021 14:00

I have relatives in Scandinavia. It is much harder to get on the property ladder. However loads of them, my family and friends have holiday cabins. None of them let them out just used by family and friends. Lots of them live in huge homes.
It's not the fair utopia people spout on here.
The only thing they do have that we don't is lots of reasonable to rent but very tiny flats for young people-singles and couples. They are like bedsits but done really really well.

murbblurb · 23/03/2021 14:34

That shithole in Croydon on the news last night is council run. As such it is exempt from electrical inspection report, for instance.

I know it is fun to spew bile at private landlords because they are individuals on whom you can pin jealousy, but there is rather more to our housing issues than that.

Andante57 · 17/06/2021 13:17

The house price increase is ridiculous and should have been stopped a long time ago.

Ladywinesalot I agree the relentless increasing cost of property is ridiculous and unfair but I’m not sure how it can be stopped.

Some countries ban overseas buyers. In a previous discussion on here someone said this was racist - in which case quite a few countries are racist as according to google, 40% ban or restrict foreigners from buying.
Certainly in London (and for all I know, other cities) there are an awful lot of empty properties which seems wrong given the housing shortage.

Andante57 · 17/06/2021 13:35

It's impossoible for everyone to live in new-built terraced houses with gardens etc... start looking higher instead of wider...

This is tricky: if all new housing was terraced properties with gardens then more and more green fields will disappear faster than they are already doing.
However I think a lot of people don’t want to live in high rise flats.

bp300 · 17/06/2021 14:28

@Andante57

The house price increase is ridiculous and should have been stopped a long time ago.

Ladywinesalot I agree the relentless increasing cost of property is ridiculous and unfair but I’m not sure how it can be stopped.

Some countries ban overseas buyers. In a previous discussion on here someone said this was racist - in which case quite a few countries are racist as according to google, 40% ban or restrict foreigners from buying.
Certainly in London (and for all I know, other cities) there are an awful lot of empty properties which seems wrong given the housing shortage.

House price rises could be stopped very easily. Limiting mortgage lending or raising interest rates would be a good start.
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