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To be angry at the frenzy caused by others last night

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BarometerTV · 14/03/2021 12:56

I think it was utterly disrespectful. We are in lockdown and it was not the right time for a protest. I agree with a quiet, respectful, socially distanced space to grieve - which is what appeared to happen during the day.

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LucieStar · 16/03/2021 09:46

@Dorsetdays

I just find it hard to understand why someone who claims they’re not an activist thought the best course of action was to totally ignore the police officer asking her to move on and refuse to give her name. Is that the normal behaviour of someone who hasn’t done anything wrong, has no intentions and has had no previous interactions with the police.

And interesting that people go to a ‘vigil’ with pre printed cards so they can hand out legal advice and contact numbers. Probably not the first thing I’d have thought to take to a vigil but there you go, takes all sorts!

Precisely

DuncinToffee · 16/03/2021 09:47

Where does the At least 26 police officers assaulted (punched, kicked, spat at and had water bottles thrown at them). come from?
Can you give a link please

LucieStar · 16/03/2021 09:47

Absolutely, the constant referencing of "She's only 5'2" and weighs nothing." So can people only be arrested if they are over a certain height/weight? I wonder how tall you have to be to qualify. I'm not quite 5'4" so can I go out and commit crimes without fear of arrest or am I a bit too tall.

I'm 5'9" so I'd better be careful! Grin

LucieStar · 16/03/2021 09:49

@DuncinToffee

Where does the At least 26 police officers assaulted (punched, kicked, spat at and had water bottles thrown at them). come from? Can you give a link please

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/video/2021/mar/14/met-police-defends-handling-of-sarah-everard-vigil-in-london-as-necessary-video

I'm not sure if this references how many were assaulted - but this it the link I shared further up thread.

bubblesforlife · 16/03/2021 09:51

Last night started as a vigil, it ended in a protest.
I find it sickening that a minority will show up to these (illegal) vigils to voice their own agendas. There are times for protest in the future, but right now, a protest, disrespecting public health, true (respectful) mourners, police officers (spitting, throwing things etc) is not a nice way to remember the poor lady that was brutally murdered.
Photos show people were too tightly packed in. I’m sick of lockdown, and it’s these minority that are putting us at risk of further lockdowns. Some people love to be seen and heard and will find them self any stage, even a peaceful vigil to make a stance. Shame on those minority. They disrespect every single person following the guidelines, every person mourning the death of Sarah and every police officer that have to deal with them. Mask a protest as a Vigil, and the world cries out in outrage when it ends in arrests. It pisses me off.

Alsohuman · 16/03/2021 09:56

I’m not sure that Cressida Dick is the most reliable of witnesses. She wasn’t there and she’s hardly unbiased.

DuncinToffee · 16/03/2021 09:56

I'm not sure if this references how many were assaulted

So no link then, just speculation.

LucieStar · 16/03/2021 09:57

@DuncinToffee

I'm not sure if this references how many were assaulted

So no link then, just speculation.

Here

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.standard.co.uk/news/london/met-police-two-page-vigil-sarah-everard-scotland-yard-report-b924165.html%3famp

Dorsetdays · 16/03/2021 09:58

Thanks @LucieStar. That’s what I was referencing - the report from the chair of the Met police federation who represent the ‘rank and file’ officers.

People can also go on the BBC website and read the reports from the HofC where MP’s confirmed written reports had been received from police officers detailing the abuse.

LucieStar · 16/03/2021 09:58

Ken Marsh, chairman of the Met’s Police Federation representing rank-and-file officers, defended officers whom he said were enforcing Covid laws at the vigil where four people were arrested, three of them women.

“They were acting lawfully, policing Covid-19 lockdown laws that a democratically elected Government imposed and that the Mayor of London called on us to enforce to keep Londoners safe,” he said.

“Political leaders should be doing much more to support the police officers they have put in this impossible position.”

He protested: “Around 26 Metropolitan Police officers were assaulted – punched, kicked, spat at and had plastic water bottles thrown at them.
“I recognise the steel of our officers to stand there and be abused in that way.”

DuncinToffee · 16/03/2021 09:58

[quote LucieStar]@DuncinToffee

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.standard.co.uk/news/london/met-police-two-page-vigil-sarah-everard-scotland-yard-report-b924165.html%3famp

It's referenced in here. [/quote]
It's behind a paywall, can you copy the relevant information

LucieStar · 16/03/2021 09:59

26 assaulted yet only 4 arrests made. Seems they let some of it go, then?

LucieStar · 16/03/2021 09:59

@DuncinToffee

I have copied the quote by Ken Marsh from the article

Dorsetdays · 16/03/2021 10:00

It’s not behind a paywall at all. You can freely google it as I did.

LucieStar · 16/03/2021 10:00

@Dorsetdays

It’s not behind a paywall at all. You can freely google it as I did.

I did wonder, I found it fine

ancientgran · 16/03/2021 10:05

@LucieStar

Absolutely, the constant referencing of "She's only 5'2" and weighs nothing." So can people only be arrested if they are over a certain height/weight? I wonder how tall you have to be to qualify. I'm not quite 5'4" so can I go out and commit crimes without fear of arrest or am I a bit too tall.

I'm 5'9" so I'd better be careful! Grin

Yes just behave yourself.
Alsohuman · 16/03/2021 10:41

I wonder how many of those 26 police officers were as provocative as those at Greenham all those years ago.

Dorsetdays · 16/03/2021 10:43

Yes because, as I said earlier, that means they deserved it? Weird logic.

rippledegg · 16/03/2021 10:47

I agree @Dorsetdays

LucieStar · 16/03/2021 10:47

@Alsohuman

I wonder how many of those 26 police officers were as provocative as those at Greenham all those years ago.

I've seen some footage of a completely unprovoked attack by a man on an officer, while a group of women stood cheering and chanting. That was just one that I've seen, can't speak for the others.

LucieStar · 16/03/2021 10:48

@Dorsetdays

Yes because, as I said earlier, that means they deserved it? Weird logic.

And that's also a good point. We don't blame women for being "provocative" and deserving of assault. Why are we blaming the police for the same?

rippledegg · 16/03/2021 10:49

They disrespect every single person following the guidelines, every person mourning the death of Sarah and every police officer that have to deal with them

^This

LucieStar · 16/03/2021 10:50

Maybe because, absolutely no one, man or woman (police officer or not), deserves to be assaulted in any capacity.