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Sarah protest vs BLM protest

78 replies

changedthenamemate · 14/03/2021 10:58

AIBU to wonder why I have read no negativity about groups forming and becoming violent for the Sarah/claim back the streets protests, yet the BLM and fighting racism protests attracted heavy amounts of criticism and tbh hatred?

Even the Kate Middleton joined in with this protest... But no support was shown (if i remember correctly) about BLM protests from her?

Not being goady, just confused

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littlepattilou · 14/03/2021 11:00
Biscuit
EastMonkey · 14/03/2021 11:00

Huge difference between a protest and a vigil, and there have been plenty of negative comments on both - perhaps broaden your reading sphere?

BIWI · 14/03/2021 11:01

The only violence in last night's vigil, as far as I could see, was from the police.

And the reason there was criticism of the BLM was because so many people are racist.

HTH.

Now. What's the real point of this post?

Wherediditgo · 14/03/2021 11:02

No need to draw comparisons. This isn’t a race to the bottom.
Both were kicked off by an avoidable tragedy, both issues deserve to be highlighted.

Gamefacer · 14/03/2021 11:05

You are being goady and you’re not confused. Stop being disingenuous. Stop trying to make this about BLM. It’s not. Just quit whilst you’re ahead.

Toelopeornottoelope · 14/03/2021 11:08

Because lots of people are (whether consciously or not) racist, and can accept a black mans death by police easier than a white woman’s death by police.

Both were unbearable tragedies. The answer is not that we need more negative press about Sarah’s, but that the press should have been less biased against BLM.

changedthenamemate · 14/03/2021 11:13

Like I said, not trying to be goady and totally agree both issues deserved to be highlighted- I just do not get why one is seen as acceptable yet the other isn’t. The root cause of both protests are important.

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Xenia · 14/03/2021 11:15

No murder is acceptable. Has anyone compared these 3 vigils and protests as to what was allowed to happen and when?

IO think the women have had a worse time of it than the posh people's eco protests on the streets and also BLM protests. However I cannot remember what stages of lockdowns we were at last year eg when Great T spoke in the UK and the various other ones. A comparison might be useful as the police seemed very against the women's vigils but keen to allow BLM and eco stuff. Women at the bottom of the pile as ever.

littlepattilou · 14/03/2021 11:15

@Gamefacer

You are being goady and you’re not confused. Stop being disingenuous. Stop trying to make this about BLM. It’s not. Just quit whilst you’re ahead.
This.

Also...

This is the FIFTH goady thread that I have seen like this (the other 4 have been deleted,) and on every single one, the OP has named-changed.

If they are so sure of their views, then why make up another username? Why not OWN our views?

Cowardly, goady, and baity. I could say a lot worse, but I won't. Hmm

@changedthenamemate

Do yourself, and the name of this tragic young woman a favour, and report your own thread to get it removed. Because it's a nasty, goady thread. And you know it.

EastMonkey · 14/03/2021 11:16

I just do not get why one is seen as acceptable yet the other isn’t.

Like I said, there's anger about Sarah's vigil too - have you not seen it? Widen your sphere, or perhaps you are immune to anger against women's deaths.

RedMarauder · 14/03/2021 11:16

OP you are aware the law has changed between last summer and now regarding lockdown?

SaltedCaramelIcedLatte · 14/03/2021 11:17

@Toelopeornottoelope

Because lots of people are (whether consciously or not) racist, and can accept a black mans death by police easier than a white woman’s death by police.

Both were unbearable tragedies. The answer is not that we need more negative press about Sarah’s, but that the press should have been less biased against BLM.

Absolutely this
satishoused · 14/03/2021 11:17

The police took the knee at BLM protests and did not intervene under the guise of covid. They danced with extinction rebellion protestors.

Women attend a vigil and they got heavy handed.

The inconsistency is staggering and I think misogyny amongst the police is a bigger issue than racism tbh.

roarfeckingroarr · 14/03/2021 11:19

Massive difference between a peaceful vigil, with masks, and the often violent BLM protests

OppsUpsSide · 14/03/2021 11:23

BLM was all over the news, I have been actively trying to find something on TV about this this morning, fuck all. Nada.
The police took the knee for BLM, they were heavy handed and antagonistic at the vigil which only went tits up because a) they tried to block it and b) they turned up.
So no I don’t see your point, not at all.

OppsUpsSide · 14/03/2021 11:24

Misogyny is rife in the police, but people don’t really care.

Freshair85 · 14/03/2021 11:24

@Wherediditgo

No need to draw comparisons. This isn’t a race to the bottom. Both were kicked off by an avoidable tragedy, both issues deserve to be highlighted.
This!
littlepattilou · 14/03/2021 11:25

@Xenia

No murder is acceptable. Has anyone compared these 3 vigils and protests as to what was allowed to happen and when?

IO think the women have had a worse time of it than the posh people's eco protests on the streets and also BLM protests. However I cannot remember what stages of lockdowns we were at last year eg when Great T spoke in the UK and the various other ones. A comparison might be useful as the police seemed very against the women's vigils but keen to allow BLM and eco stuff. Women at the bottom of the pile as ever.

Exactly THIS. ^

The majority of people on those #BLM protests, were not people who were affected by the thing they were protesting against. Indeed, many of them were over-privileged liberals, and over-privileged young people. They were just putting on their 'woke' hat, to join in with something that had had fuck-all affect on them.

#BLM is necessary in America, and I think the original idea of it is great. But it has been taken over in the UK, by the liberal lefties, and has turned toxic. It is totally unnecessary over here. It was literally bandwagon-jumping liberals who attended #BLM last year.

These same liberals seem to be offended by the attention that this young white woman (who was brutally murdered by a police officer,) is getting... Like actually upset and angry that she is getting lots of media attention.

That speaks volumes about these 'woke' liberals. Hmm

changedthenamemate · 14/03/2021 11:26

@RedMarauder so gatherings of large people are allowed now?

I always name change when it comes to posting my own threads compared to replying to other threads.

I have not seen the previous deleted thread and no I will not ask for my thread to be deleted.

I’m not great at articulating my thoughts so created this in the hopes of someone else explaining.

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lioncitygirl · 14/03/2021 11:26

Not being goady? Ok then. 🤷🏻‍♀️

Whammyyammy · 14/03/2021 11:28

It seems to have become a competition online on a lot of posts.
I read an argument where someone put Black lives and Womens lives matter! Wirks has gone mad.
Every life matters,regardless of creed, religion etc, including animals.
No one matters more than anyone else, no one.

Tal45 · 14/03/2021 11:28

No one should be becoming violent for either of these issues, violence is what caused them in the first place.

ThrowingAShellstrop · 14/03/2021 11:29

There is no this vs that

Both mean something, both are justified, both are valid alongside each other.

Whammyyammy · 14/03/2021 11:29

*worlds gone mad

VinterKvinna · 14/03/2021 11:30

@Gamefacer

You are being goady and you’re not confused. Stop being disingenuous. Stop trying to make this about BLM. It’s not. Just quit whilst you’re ahead.
I agree with this