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Fathers for justice

95 replies

damnthisvirusandmarriage · 13/03/2021 13:31

I have a huge issue with this post but can’t articulate why.

I know you will hear me though.

Fathers for justice
OP posts:
DdraigGoch · 13/03/2021 14:38

@FannyFlapClap

And to think some of those fathers will have daughters. Scary.
Given the purpose of the organisation in question, I think that we can assume that many of those fathers have only supervised contact, if any.
Cactus1982 · 13/03/2021 14:39

Fathers 4 Justice are scum. They are at least in part responsible for Caroline Flack’s suicide as they housed her mercilessly. They also blamed Kerry Katona for her ex husbands suicide and targeted her in a similar way. In my experience when men don’t see their kids its usually because they can’t be bothered to make the effort.

GlendaSugarbeanIsJudgingYou · 13/03/2021 14:49

I see they are still taking great pleasure in harassing women such as Chantelle Houghton.

Creeps.

MadinMarch · 13/03/2021 15:01

Fathers for Justice are a bunch of c*s and always have been. They just hate women
Couldn't put it better myself!

NiceGerbil · 13/03/2021 15:05

Not read the whole thread yet

Just wanted to point out that refer to the 'tragic death' of Sarah

Not the violent murder.

I read the thread a bit and thought hold on I bet they've put it in a certain way

And they have

Tells you everything you need to know.

toconclude · 13/03/2021 15:08

@Doomsdayiscoming

OG Meninists. Pointless twats.

If men weren’t killing so many men, more women would be dead. If anything, it would be great if men killed more men.

Fwiw: I am a man.

No, because the men they would kill would not necessarily be the ones dangerous to women. Appreciate the support, but this reads all wrong.
toconclude · 13/03/2021 15:09

@dontdisturbmenow

Both positions are discriminatory. The common issue is violence in the streets.

A male totally innocent bystander shot dead by a drug dealer by error is just as tragic.

Why make it a competition and blame culture?

The oy worth message is to tackle violence, domestic and against strangers, end of.

Except that gendered violence exists, end of.
toconclude · 13/03/2021 15:10

and its much more than "violence in the streets"

BrightYellowDaffodil · 13/03/2021 15:11

A PP is spot on when they asked who murdered the men? By and large, the answer is “other men”.

And a second question is: how many men are sexually assaulted in their lives? 3.4 million women, compared to 650,000 men (source). That’s a rather different slant, isn’t it?

Fathers4Justice seem to be the sort of people who are stopped from access to their children for a very good reason.

PicsInRed · 13/03/2021 15:15

Fathers for justice as a walking talking QED for why we need the Domestic Abuse Bill 2021 to pass into law as soon as possible. It's presently in the final stages, and should pass any week now.

So, hey there F4J guys 👋 soon your post separation coercive control and threats will be illegal too. Enjoy! 😘

NiceGerbil · 13/03/2021 15:16

To a PP I don't think f4j was a legitimate campaign and then it got hijacked?

I read a thing about the bloke who started it.. In short he said he had been a violent alcoholic and if he was his ex he wouldn't have allowed access either. But nevertheless he thought it was the right thing to do to start f4j :/

Anotherlovelybitofsquirrel · 13/03/2021 15:43

Father For Justice - a bunch of dumb/dangerous men a lot of who are not even allowed to see their own children.

user1493413286 · 13/03/2021 15:48

I don’t understand why they’re using it as a opportunity to have a go at women rather than saying yes there is a problem with male violence and men are frightened too, when I read it I first wondered if they were saying that women kill men. Such a missed chance to call violent men out.

DrSbaitso · 13/03/2021 15:49

I don’t understand why they’re using it as a opportunity to have a go at women rather than saying yes there is a problem with male violence and men are frightened too

Oh, I do.

Pipepans · 13/03/2021 15:55

F4J are an absolute joke and always have been. Dangerous and hate mongering. I have friends dealing with non child maintenance paying and abusive ex's, who mention joining F4J as some kind of threat, and yes if you heard their story would think they are up for father of the year.
Luckily my friends were able to laugh that their ex partners thought mentioning such an organisation would be intimidating!

You can imagine all the messages these alleged fathers send each other being "masterful" and dominant....

PanamaPattie · 13/03/2021 16:00

F4J are one of the reasons contact centres exist.

Mumofsend · 13/03/2021 16:03

They are insane

FactsAndFigs · 13/03/2021 16:10

F4J campaign material has got their arses handed on plate by MN.

F4J rejected cosying up to parent Alienation MRA’s who also hate and blame feminist for basically just breathing

FaceyRomford · 13/03/2021 16:30

FFJ are a bunch of dead beat no-hopers whose ridiculous antics should be ignored by every sane person. I speak as a man and a father.

OutsideTheWhiteHouse · 13/03/2021 16:56

Making it all about them again, I see. Most likely why they don’t have access to their children.

Schoolchoicesucks · 13/03/2021 17:03

They're spot on. Something needs to be done about all these feminists violently murdering poor, defenceless men.

Oh. Wait. No. That's not quite right is it....

Deadringer · 13/03/2021 17:15

Shut up women and be grateful that men are too busy killing other men to have the time to kill more of us.

Loodally · 13/03/2021 17:36

Ah yes, F4F who were there for my ex, AKA 'the most abusive man I've ever had the misfortune to meet', whilst we were going through family court.
Judging by some of the comments on their social media pages, the only purpose they serve is to share tips on how better to abuse your ex wife/girlfriend.

Loodally · 13/03/2021 17:38

*F4J 🙄

xnomore · 13/03/2021 17:54

With the voting YABU, YANBU, please add Sack of cunts (SOC)

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