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To think the internet should be a little more controlled...

208 replies

jobhunter7 · 13/03/2021 11:15

It shouldn't be possible to access hardcore pornography so easily...
It shouldn't be so easy to troll people...
There should be more controls before things go live to the entire universe...

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Mcend · 14/03/2021 22:56

Paid closed site communities or paywalls have been around forever, they tend not to last long as advertisers don't want to pay for a closed to the public site and who wants to pay when there's a heap of free communities. I can't see paid platforms ever being the future.

StanfordPines · 14/03/2021 23:02

But who makes the rules? Who gets to decide the rules of the ‘gated communities’?
What if one of those communities decides that they really don’t like one section of the population and will keep posting things about them? Who will know.

greencrosscode · 15/03/2021 07:01

Maybe the shape of the internet will change. Youtube is full of copyrighted music material and is a multi billion dollar company. So we get all to listen to music through this cheaply, but I guess when you look at it we're only redirecting the money because now it costs hundreds of pounds to buy concert tickets. The owners of youtube and their advertisers make the money out of what is essentially stolen product. Maybe a 20second clip of a song could be fair use, not whole albums.

Mcend · 15/03/2021 07:54

The big labels get money from songs used on videos on youtube. The copyright system flags it and the label has the option of striking it down or just taking your revenue from that video

greencrosscode · 15/03/2021 11:54

Trolling.

Perhaps social media and messageboards aren't such a wonderful invention after all...

Tigger001 · 15/03/2021 12:02

We should just know exactly who the people are doing the trolling.
ID would be a good start for authenticating your use.

greencrosscode · 15/03/2021 12:07

Katie Price has been suggesting this.

But maybe less you should be going out anyway. Do we really need comments on youtube videos at all? Shouldn't messageboards be moderated before they go live making the websites that run them a bit more culpable?

greencrosscode · 15/03/2021 12:10

I think I could pretty much live without a twitter at all. And on twitter people often have their tweets set to private... maybe facebook could be a little more private.

DynamoKev · 15/03/2021 12:13

@StillCoughingandLaughing

Yes, someone at Internet HQ should tick the ‘Don’t say or look at naughty things’ box. Then everything will be fine.
Grin
DynamoKev · 15/03/2021 12:14

@Tigger001

We should just know exactly who the people are doing the trolling. ID would be a good start for authenticating your use.
How would that work exactly - would you upload/submit a picture of your ID to sign up? Or would you need to send the originals? Or something else? What ID docs would be OK?
emilyfrost · 15/03/2021 12:24

@Tigger001

We should just know exactly who the people are doing the trolling. ID would be a good start for authenticating your use.
Why should we?

If someone can’t handle words on a screen said by a random stranger, they need to step back and work on their resilience, not try to censor and control everyone.

emilyfrost · 15/03/2021 12:25

@greencrosscode

Katie Price has been suggesting this.

But maybe less you should be going out anyway. Do we really need comments on youtube videos at all? Shouldn't messageboards be moderated before they go live making the websites that run them a bit more culpable?

Again, if you can’t handle interactions on YouTube/Twitter/Facebook etc that is your problem to deal with, nobody else’s.
zeitgeista · 15/03/2021 12:25

no thanks

StanfordPines · 15/03/2021 12:27

@greencrosscode

Katie Price has been suggesting this.

But maybe less you should be going out anyway. Do we really need comments on youtube videos at all? Shouldn't messageboards be moderated before they go live making the websites that run them a bit more culpable?

Ok. So let’s say then that every single post on MN has to be read by someone before it is posted. I don’t know how many posts there are a minute on here but I’m guessing across all the chat that’s quite a few.

Now that person has to sit there and decide if someone saying ‘I thought her dress made her look a fucking disgrace’ (for example) is perfectly fine or hate speech.

Who is making that choice? What if that person has a personal bias one way and allows comments that someone else wouldn’t?

Moreover to moderate every single comment on here would take a few people. Who is going to pay them?

greencrosscode · 15/03/2021 12:29

@StanfordPines

I guess the business model of websites would have to change.

greencrosscode · 15/03/2021 12:31

@StanfordPines

It would be presumably cheaper to have more voting and less chatting.

pointythings · 15/03/2021 12:32

[quote greencrosscode]@StanfordPines

I guess the business model of websites would have to change.[/quote]
Yes, it would. That change would probably have to involve people paying to access and participate. Which would once again penalise people who already have very little.

It's a bad idea.

CrunchyBiscs · 15/03/2021 12:33

I think on a decades time there will be posters saying 'OMG they used to allow free access to hardcore porn and videos of Isis beheadings, even live child pornography if you were in the know' - can you f ing believe it?

Emeraldshamrock · 15/03/2021 12:37

I believe you should/will have to verify sm accounts with valid ID in the future.
It would definitely makes those horrible trolls from being so brash as a keyboard warrior.
Too many rational individuals are pushed toward suicidal thoughts by trolling.

DynamoKev · 15/03/2021 12:39

None of the people clamouring for "ID" here or on the Katie Price thread can answer how it would work in practice.

Mcend · 15/03/2021 12:50

Premoderating comments for all forum type activity is ridiculous and completely unworkable. Would never happen, thank goodness.

StanfordPines · 15/03/2021 15:01

[quote greencrosscode]@StanfordPines

I guess the business model of websites would have to change.[/quote]
Yes, they would have to charge, and no one would pay it, so they would close.

StanfordPines · 15/03/2021 15:01

[quote greencrosscode]@StanfordPines

It would be presumably cheaper to have more voting and less chatting.[/quote]
Voting on what?

StanfordPines · 15/03/2021 15:02

@DynamoKev

None of the people clamouring for "ID" here or on the Katie Price thread can answer how it would work in practice.
Or are posting under their real names.
greencrosscode · 15/03/2021 15:50

@StanfordPInes

It would be presumably cheaper to have the voting as there is on this thread and just not the posts...