To think that if the only black adult in your family says they have experienced racism...

[Overcastcloudy]

... it's counterproductive to send a white man out to say, We're very much not racist?

That just is never going to end well. Ask Ian Murray how it worked out for him.

I couldn't care much either way about the Royal Family. Just baffled at the headline of William saying this.

I don't believe the Royals "sent him out" to say anything, he was answering a reporter's question. What should he do apart from deny it if that is what he genuinely believes.

Meghan and Harry got facts wrong in their interview - for example it was inferred that Archie didn't get a title or specific protection officers simply because he was their son/skin colour. Actually no - the Government and Met Police decide on who gets protection and no title is due to be given to Archie until Prince Charles is on the throne.

Yes, I'm sure his skin colour was discussed - probably with Harry before marriage. The RF discussion everything, even the photos they display or the broach the queen wears seem to have a significance. So I am sure there was a conversation that went "What do we think the public's perception and reaction would be in these cases?" If you orchestrate things down to who stands where, what they wear, "nods" to the past etc definitely you will discuss skin colour, background, roles, and look at the public perception of many different things. It doesn't mean they are racist.

I agree OP. But also see if what was he supposed to do?

He had two choices - ignore the reporter or say we are not racist.

So she is allowed to talk about her opinion but he shouldn’t be allowed to talk about his?

This will please all the republicans on here but today I think the Royal Family should just go. The personal cost is too high for the people in it. These people can't communicate in a normal way. I saw the utter pain on Kate's face today even with a mask. Shocking.

[quote Mintjulia]@twilightskies. 'why would she lie?

That's pretty naive.

For the same reason she appeared on Oprah despite wanting to 'escape the public gaze'. Because it gains her attention. Because the more conflict or discussion she can create, the better. It sells. Because it increases her value for her up-coming contracts.

I'm not saying she did. But there are a few reasons why she might.[/quote]

Why would a suicidal woman want attention? She wants to clear her name like with the Kate crying lies.

@NotFabulousDarling

She's an actress. Her job is to convince people that she's anything she says she is.

So was Robin Williams. Actors are also people, don't be loony

I'm not sure that why they sent him out. This would have been planned for months and those teachers in that role for longer.

I'm astounded (well actually I'm sadly not!) that PM thought Thomas Markle saying the British RF isnt racist was a good point to prove they weren't as it's his dd who made the claim.

TM is also a white middle aged man - and American 🤦🏼‍♀️

The level of viriol directed at Meghan seems disproportionate to her 'crimes'.

(Unlike the human cesspit that is Andrew. Has PW ever made a statement about Andrew?)

There have been a few comments about how outrageous it was of them to give the interview. But that's exactly what Diana did in 1995. And she got the same reaction. How dare you, trying to tear down the family, etc. But it was a great leap forward in the UK for acknowledging mental health impacts, bulimia, self-harm. And we heard her side of the story, directly from her.

And vitriol. With a t.

He had two choices - ignore the reporter or say we are not racist.

As detailed throughout the thread, there were many better options. Most involve some sort of reflection, or even 'as the palace said in a statement...'

FuckyouBrennan...Indeed fuck you.

And we heard her side of the story, directly from her. And affected William badly at school. Teenaged school friends hearing that Diana had an affair etc etc. Charles did the same and now his brother and SIL.
My voice must be heard no matter how much it hurts other people.

@TillyTopper The RF discussion everything, even the photos they display or the broach the queen wears seem to have a significance.

Well I would have expected that sort of preparation, too. But then PW ran with the 'not racist' line. So maybe not.

For the record, there is no non-offensive way to ask the parents of mixed-race children about the likely colour of the baby's skin. It is both racist and monumentally stupid: they have no way of knowing!! It doesn't show up on the fecking ultrasound.

It wasn't banter. It was a nasty racist jibe for cheap laughs and it was very damaging for the army. The colleague may not have complained but I am sure they were hurt and offended. I certainly was.

It was an appalling remark and very offensive, and I bet there was loads more we never got to hear of. Where did he get his deep racism from I wonder?

And affected William badly at school

Squidgeygate had happened in 1992. Three years before Diana went public.

I felt sorry for William (and Kate) today, trying to be composed and carry out the engagement in the middle of all this madness

@Clarinsmum

The camps were in Kenya.

Thanks for letting me know. I have now read and learnt about it.

What a useless bunch the Royals and their advisors are. Any dimwit would know the question about the Royal Family and Racism and/or the Harry Meghan interview would be asked of them while out visiting places!

Is that really the best answer the second apprentice to the throne could come up with, and if that's what he was advised to say then they need a new team.

Or wait - better solution - get rid of the monarchy altogether.

The Royal Family as a whole may not be racist. It does not mean than none of them are or have been in the past.

Today the Duke of Cambridge would have been damned whatever he said, or even if he remained silent.

The biggest royal racist on record is Philip.

Doesn’t make me uncomfortable at all. It was nothing to do with me, being a peasant and all and more to the point, I wasn’t even born....

You don't have to feel guilty or responsible thats be ridiculous. But you should feel uncomfortable about colonialism etc. There's something the matter if you don't care at all

@Overcastcloudy

And affected William badly at school

Squidgeygate had happened in 1992. Three years before Diana went public.

And? Stick the knife even more. I used to be Diana's greatest fan. In the light of this latest incident I think she was totally selfish.

@TableFlowerss The Queen didn’t ask to be born in to that role. She’s not set a foot wrong in her long reign.

Well that one certainly comes down to opinion. I can think of many instances; the week Diana died (the whole suggesting he marry Diana and not Camilla in the first place), and I just loved how Alistair Campbell called her out (yes, I am aware it was a movie, but I am talking about where what Alistair said in the movie was corroborated and was what he said in real life) how she has handled (or rather, not handled) the Prince Andrew revelations. That's just two examples. She might not give interviews where she explains herself, but imo she has been left very, very wanting indeed, many times over the years. She's always seemed manipulative and cunning to me, but because she's the Queen, she can.