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Whether to confront a friend or let things go??

80 replies

Sandybeach20 · 10/03/2021 22:21

Hello.

I would really appreciate some opinions regarding something that has been worrying me for sometime now. I will try to keep this as brief as possible.

Sometime ago I lent a friend (in need) £1700. I won’t go into exactly what it was for but my friend was desperate and as far as I could see the money was put towards a good cause in helping one of her very close family members. I had known my friend for 7 years through work so I trusted her. She appeared very stressed about needing this money so I offered it to her and she seemed very grateful at the time. She said that she would pay me back the money within a matter of months and wrote this down and signed it.

However, shortly after I lent her the money the family member died. She was understandably heartbroken and I tried my best to support her. As the months followed, the agreed time for paying back the loan came and went. I didn’t say anything at the time because I felt so much for her regarding her loss of this family member.

However, my friend never again mentioned the money I’d lent her. I admit I began to feel frustrated because I had no idea what was happening with it. In the end I sent her a text almost a year after I’d lent her the money to ask for an update on it. She texted back an apology but said her family member dying had obviously affected things and delayed her ability to pay me back right now. I told her that I realised it must have been hard and was just asking for an update so I could sort my finances. From then on our personal contact began to fizzle out.

I thought I’d leave it a little longer before I asked again as I worried I was being insensitive by asking too soon into her grief. Another 10 months went by and still nothing (despite us seeing each other at work as she is a colleague) so I texted again to ask for an update. This time I asked to be kept updated. I was pregnant with my second child and about to go on maternity leave which she already knew about so I made it clear the money would be very useful. She stated she would keep me updated.

It’s now been almost 3 years since I lent her the money and she has stopped contacting me completely. She didn’t even congratulate me on the arrival of my baby which hurt. I am left feeling confused and upset and like I have done something wrong, otherwise why would my friend be blanking me this way? If she was having problems getting the money, she’d only have to talk to me about it and I’d be happy to work something out. It’s the uncertainty I am struggling with and am worried I have perhaps not been supportive enough. At other times I feel angry at her, like when I see her joking happily and apparently carefree with other colleagues. I also feel angry at myself for not sticking up for myself. I hate myself for being such a wuss, confrontation scares me.

I suffered terribly with my mental health as a child and young adult and although I’m so much better now in my early thirties my confidence is still very fragile. I think the issue is not so much the money but how the whole thing has weakened my sense of self-worth. I feel I am to blame for all of this and am at a point I am tearful about this much of the time and I’m scared to go back to work after maternity ends. My DH says that it’s ridiculous I blame myself and I should have been firmer with her earlier but that’s easier said than done for me.

I am not sure what to do but I need to do something as it’s all so upsetting. Should I just leave it and put it down to experience and my friend having things tough or should I toughen up and just ask her straight what is going on?

Sorry this is so long, your thoughts would be appreciated.

OP posts:
Ibleedibreedibreaatfeed · 10/03/2021 22:25

I think the money is a write off tbh seeing how this goes from past threds. But for now I would concentrate on your own family

Ibleedibreedibreaatfeed · 10/03/2021 22:26

Ps your not too blame. Maybe get some counselling to help you with these emotions

AWhisperWillDoIfThatsAllYouCan · 10/03/2021 22:28

You have enough in writing to go to small claims
Fill out the form and get it sorted.

RaininSummer · 10/03/2021 22:28

She has no intention of paying you back I think. Cheeky mare. You have been way to nice about it.

awesomekillick · 10/03/2021 22:28

You have little or nothing to lose by speaking up. What's the worst that can happen? What's the worst thing she could say? Would it be true? I doubt it. So face your fear and speak up - your future self will thank you for being strong and doing the right thing.

CareBear50 · 10/03/2021 22:29

If you have proof it was a loan OP I would discuss w citizens advice re best course if action

WineIsMyMainVice · 10/03/2021 22:29

You did the right thing writing it down so that should stand for something. I’d ask her for a suggested repayment plan or you will be forced to go to the small claims court.
Good luck.

Rollmopsrule · 10/03/2021 22:31

Write off the friendship but not the money. Definitely don't leave it - why should she get off scot free with this?? Message her with a date you want paying back by or you'll be pursuing it in the small claims courts. You have the signed paper to back you up. She's relying on you hating confrontation so she can get away with it.

23PissOffAvenueWF · 10/03/2021 22:32

She is blanking you because she doesn’t want to pay you back, not because you’ve done anything wrong.

Agree with @awesomekillick

PhatPhanny · 10/03/2021 22:32

You have a signed agreement, take her to court.

Doyoumind · 10/03/2021 22:33

YABU to think you've done anything wrong. She's avoiding you because she took your money and doesn't intend to pay it back. Have you got anything in writing to show she agreed to pay it back? Tell her to respond or you will have to seek legal advice. Don't worry about damaging your friendship. She isn't your friend. She's taken advantage of you.

CGWGWOO · 10/03/2021 22:38

Ask her to have a private face to face meeting.
Be very clear that you are concerned that there has been no attempt to make any repayments.
Again be clear that the loan was made on the understanding that it will be repaid.
You now want to discuss how and when this loan will be repaid.
Make a suggestion, say £170 per month for 10 months. Ask if she thinks that fair. Perhaps she might suggest less money over a longer period. Consider your limits first, don’t let her extend it much longer than that. Tell her when she has repaid it all it will have been 4 years since you gave her the money.
Emphasise what the original agreement was.
Be prepared to lose this money, consider that your friendship is over anyway.

NoseOfJericho · 10/03/2021 22:38

Send a solicitor's letter.

23PissOffAvenueWF · 10/03/2021 22:39

The friendship is gone - and it’s entirely her fault, not yours.

Agree with sending her a short, polite letter asking for the money back, or it will be referred to the small claims court.

It’s your money, and you need it. She’s stolen it from you (I was going to say ‘she’s effectively stolen it from you’, but there’s no ‘effectively’ about it).

shiningstar2 · 10/03/2021 22:40

This is not your fault op but I think it is affecting your self respect in not getting the money back. You feel as though you have been taken for a ride, but you did a kind thing and how could you know she would avoid paying you back.

If she is struggling she is probably avoiding contact with you because she feels guilty at not paying you back. I would have one last attempt at getting it back. Not a 'can you update me' contact. Make a clear, realistic suggestion about how the money can be paid back. For instance I would suggest she pays back at £50 a month. If she agrees get a direct debit set up asap. If she is genuinely regretful she will be relieved that she has a realistic way of paying back. If she refuses this, then I think you have lost this money and just make it a learning experience. Flowers

Enidblyton1 · 10/03/2021 22:41

Gosh, what a horrible situation. I’m so sorry - your colleague has behaved badly and this is definitely not your fault.
So you have two options - either write off the debt or continue to chase her for the money. Which route you take depends on how much more of this you feel you can take. Is getting back the money worth the potential toll on your mental health? These are only questions you can answer.

Spillanelle · 10/03/2021 22:42

She’s a cheeky fucker. A bereavement doesn’t entitle you to treat someone like shit. Sounds like she knows you’re someone who will be worried about the confrontation so it’s easy for her to just ignore a once a year text message.
I’m ultimately not sure what recourse you have if she’s decided not to bother paying you back (which is what it sounds like given it’s been years), but it might be worth just trying a more direct conversation, face to face or over the phone rather than text, and pushing her to agree a repayment plan timescale. It’s too easy for her to fob you off with the approach youre taking.

frazzledasarock · 10/03/2021 22:42

Email her giving her a deadline for the full repayment of the loan. Tell her if she does not repay you by then you will take her to small claims court as you have written loan agreement.

Write off the ‘friendship’

Janaih · 10/03/2021 22:45

Agree solicitors letter might do the trick. If you have proof then should be fairly straightforward to pursue through small claims court.
Citizens advice will have all the info you need. Good luck i really hope you get your money back.

Thisischocolate · 10/03/2021 22:46

Check with the CAB about your rights in this situation, and the best way to pursue your claim.

Sadly, I’d say there was never really a friendship there on her part - she is a user and possibly lied about what the money was really for.

AIMD · 10/03/2021 22:46

@WineIsMyMainVice

You did the right thing writing it down so that should stand for something. I’d ask her for a suggested repayment plan or you will be forced to go to the small claims court. Good luck.
I agree with this. She could have paid this back by monthly installement by now...even if she couldn’t afford a lump sum.
SnackSizeRaisin · 10/03/2021 22:46

That is appalling behaviour - no excuses.
Send her in writing a message to say if you haven't had the full amount by a month's time you are taking her to court. Then if she doesn't pay start proceedings. It's fairly cheap £30 ish? And straightforward. As long as you have the written evidence that it's a loan.

Nannyamc · 10/03/2021 22:47

As Shakespeare said ..never a borrower or a lender be.
Money ruins friendship been there done that.
Lesson learned you will never do this again

Advice4worriedMum · 10/03/2021 22:47

Small claims court 100%. If you have proof it was a loan (and hopefully screenshots of the texts between you where she confirms she will pay it back) then you are highly likely to get your money back in full plus court costs.

You sound like a lovely friend and I feel like this is too much money to just write off Thanks. She is a CF Angry.

Symbion · 10/03/2021 22:47

My brother's done small claims court a couple of times and says it's much simpler and less scary then you'd think. Time to threaten her with that,via solicitor's letter if you think it'll help, and be prepared to follow through? The friendship has gone so sadly, you have nothing to lose.

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