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Whether to confront a friend or let things go??

80 replies

Sandybeach20 · 10/03/2021 22:21

Hello.

I would really appreciate some opinions regarding something that has been worrying me for sometime now. I will try to keep this as brief as possible.

Sometime ago I lent a friend (in need) £1700. I won’t go into exactly what it was for but my friend was desperate and as far as I could see the money was put towards a good cause in helping one of her very close family members. I had known my friend for 7 years through work so I trusted her. She appeared very stressed about needing this money so I offered it to her and she seemed very grateful at the time. She said that she would pay me back the money within a matter of months and wrote this down and signed it.

However, shortly after I lent her the money the family member died. She was understandably heartbroken and I tried my best to support her. As the months followed, the agreed time for paying back the loan came and went. I didn’t say anything at the time because I felt so much for her regarding her loss of this family member.

However, my friend never again mentioned the money I’d lent her. I admit I began to feel frustrated because I had no idea what was happening with it. In the end I sent her a text almost a year after I’d lent her the money to ask for an update on it. She texted back an apology but said her family member dying had obviously affected things and delayed her ability to pay me back right now. I told her that I realised it must have been hard and was just asking for an update so I could sort my finances. From then on our personal contact began to fizzle out.

I thought I’d leave it a little longer before I asked again as I worried I was being insensitive by asking too soon into her grief. Another 10 months went by and still nothing (despite us seeing each other at work as she is a colleague) so I texted again to ask for an update. This time I asked to be kept updated. I was pregnant with my second child and about to go on maternity leave which she already knew about so I made it clear the money would be very useful. She stated she would keep me updated.

It’s now been almost 3 years since I lent her the money and she has stopped contacting me completely. She didn’t even congratulate me on the arrival of my baby which hurt. I am left feeling confused and upset and like I have done something wrong, otherwise why would my friend be blanking me this way? If she was having problems getting the money, she’d only have to talk to me about it and I’d be happy to work something out. It’s the uncertainty I am struggling with and am worried I have perhaps not been supportive enough. At other times I feel angry at her, like when I see her joking happily and apparently carefree with other colleagues. I also feel angry at myself for not sticking up for myself. I hate myself for being such a wuss, confrontation scares me.

I suffered terribly with my mental health as a child and young adult and although I’m so much better now in my early thirties my confidence is still very fragile. I think the issue is not so much the money but how the whole thing has weakened my sense of self-worth. I feel I am to blame for all of this and am at a point I am tearful about this much of the time and I’m scared to go back to work after maternity ends. My DH says that it’s ridiculous I blame myself and I should have been firmer with her earlier but that’s easier said than done for me.

I am not sure what to do but I need to do something as it’s all so upsetting. Should I just leave it and put it down to experience and my friend having things tough or should I toughen up and just ask her straight what is going on?

Sorry this is so long, your thoughts would be appreciated.

OP posts:
Riv12345 · 10/03/2021 23:30

So sorry op this has happened.

Please dnt let her get away with it.
Let us know what you decide best of luck xx

Joinedjustforthispost · 10/03/2021 23:30

Op the loosing of a family member is purely bull, she’s spent 3 years trying to avoid the subject when she could have set up a payment plan , if she had even taken 3 years to pay you monthly it would have only cost her £47/48 monthly .

yaboo · 10/03/2021 23:32

nearly 2 grand is a heap of dough... I'm wondering if the relative even saw the money, never mind actually died. Regardless, you lent the money to her, so it's her who owes it. Chase it. Good that you've got the loan details in writing. I'd write her a stiff letter, asking her to pay it back and if she doesn't you'll pursue it through the small claims court.

TableFlowerss · 10/03/2021 23:51

It doesn’t matter if she’s struggling- aren’t we all. It’s the lack of contact that’s so disrespectful. Even if she offered to pay £50 a month until she got on her feet. Don’t borrow money if you baby pay it back.

TableFlowerss · 10/03/2021 23:52

cant

thosetalesofunexpected · 11/03/2021 00:01

The amount of money you lent her !

You have enough in writing as she signed it with you ,that this was a significant amount of money.

Find out about taking her this so called friend to the small claims court to get your money back from her.

ps we all know shit things happen in life like losing a family member etc

But its no excuse to not pay back a friend who trusted you and was good enough to do so, in the first place.

Don't allow yourself to be treated like a mug.

Stop seeing as a friend !

Ditch her as one a friend.!

She sounds like a user in life to me.

HollowTalk · 11/03/2021 00:06

No, don't do a repayment plan. She's shown you clearly that she has no intention of paying it back.

This is the link for the small claims court. You can do it online. There's a small charge - for you it will be £105 but they will make sure it's repaid.

HollowTalk · 11/03/2021 00:07

If she wants a repayment plan she can arrange it through the court - she will pay then rather than get into trouble.

thosetalesofunexpected · 11/03/2021 00:09

Contact Citzens Advice bureau agency

For sound good advice on how to go about getting this debt your ex friend owes you back.

Citzens Advice bureau agency tel contact details are on the internet or ask your local council office for details.

Best of Luck

Believe in yourself

Your ex friend is the wrong.

To be honest I wonder whether her family member really had all that money ?

I think ex friend could have lied to you in some way,

Only giving a fraction of that money to her family member and keeping the rest for her self to do what she pleased with in whatever way.

partyatthepalace · 11/03/2021 00:10

Discuss with citizens advice, they’ll be able to tell you if there’s enough proof of the loan to take it to small claims. Talking to her informally clearly doesn’t work.

Defender90 · 11/03/2021 00:11

I'm so sorry, you did a very generous and lovely thing for a friend but the money is gone, you can look at small claims, I suppose there is no friendship to loose now.

I lent a friend £100 to keep the electric on and it took me over a year to get it back, damaged our friendship forever and I really would struggle to help any friend now because of that.

2bazookas · 11/03/2021 00:29

Send her a formal writen letter reminding her she borrowed £ xyz on date ABC, and has ignore repeated reminders. You now formally request full repayment of the debt by ; failing which you will pursue it in county court. You can do that online.

A CCJ will affect her financial life; trouble with mortgage, loans, credit rating, and renting property. With luck, that risk will persuade her to pay up.

MapGirlExtraordinaire · 11/03/2021 09:20

Not really relevant but I just felt the need to add I've lent money to friends many times. And I've lent and borrowed from family.

I've never had anything go sour and ruin a relationship. Maybe I've been lucky, or maybe a more accurate summary would be I've not been UNlucky.

I would lend or borrow again within a fairly wide group of people I trust.

However your circumstances are clear OP, I'd be very keen indeed on chasing this money through small claims court.

RootyT00t · 11/03/2021 09:25

Small claims court. She's had her chance.

AyyMacarena · 11/03/2021 09:31

People get so funny over money don't they?! I've been in your position before and have written off both money and friendships. A perfectly good person or friendship just goes in a puff of smoke, even family members!

There's a saying often written here "never a lender or borrower be" and I stick to it now.

I twice borrowed money from my dad when I was much younger and repaid it diligently. The final payment was in line with my birthday month and he said to call it a birthday present and not pay. Now every so often he brings it up as "you never did pay all that money back. I won't do that again". Then I got a car recently and although I had the cash I wanted some of it on a loan. He offered to pay and I pay back but as soon as we started discussing amounts he started getting very weird so I went to the bank and will be paying £700 in interest but it's worth it as no hassle! I do know I'm lucky to be able to do that though.

Cam2020 · 11/03/2021 09:39

I don't know how people can sleep at night, knowing they owe friends money like that! If she were genguine about her circumstances changing etc. and intended to pay the money back, she'd had approached you with a payment plan. Does she forget to pay her bills etc. because a family member died? That's just an excuse and shows what a horrible person she is to use someone's death as a shield.
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As PPs have said, small claims if you can be bothered with that, otherwise it's one to chalk down to experience. You did a nice thing and took a calculated risk on lending the money, but people can surprise you. I personally never lend anything that I'm not prepared to write off.

SabrinaTheMiddleAgedBitch · 11/03/2021 09:42

She would rather lose you as a friend than pay back the money. You have been very gracious and kind OP, this isn't on you

readingismycardio · 11/03/2021 09:56

She had 3 freaking years. I'd go directly to the small claims court and get it over with. This is exactly what you need to do, and stop contacting her or trying to knock some sense into her.

LoudestCat14 · 11/03/2021 09:59

Bugger offering a payment plan after three years! You need to get it out of your head that this woman is your friend. She stopped being one when she ghosted you because you dared to ask when you might get the money back. I can't believe you've let it drag on this long. You need to email her with a copy of the agreement she originally signed saying you're calling in the debt and while you might have previously been happy to discuss a payment plan her refusal to engage means you need the money back in full. Give her a deadline and make it clear you'll go to small claims if she doesn't fulfil her obligation to repay.

Symbion · 11/03/2021 10:24

"I do worry how she’ll be and whether she’s said untoward things to others about me as they’re bound to ask her how I am whilst on maternity as we were good friends. "

This is completely understandable but try not to worry about things you can't control. If anyone probes too much could you try a couple of "yeah we haven't seen each other much" then if still on the spot, just say you had a bit of a falling out over some money lent. I think the truth is less likely to lead to gossip than being mysterious about it and I don't see why you owe it to her to keep it a big secret.

Grinch48 · 11/03/2021 10:27

Simple
She’s a using cunt
Your a nice sensitive person who feels guilty because YOU lent her money SHE won’t pay it back and you feel guilty. WTF
She isn’t a friend so don’t treat her like one

Personally if you can afford it I would take her to the small claims court
Send her a letter saying that if you don’t get the full amount within 28 days you will be taking her to court .
Make sure you have her address
And if your awarded judgment and she doesn’t pay get a CCJ slapped on her ass
That will screw up her credit rating for the next 6 years
That will affect her ability to rent or get a mortgage or remortgage or a loan
Well that’s what I would do but I’m a petty cow 😂

Sandybeach20 · 11/03/2021 12:19

Thank you for all your replies, I can’t tell you how much I appreciate every single one of them. I was quite nervous about posting this but I’m really glad I did. This has given me the strength to contact my ‘friend’ again and be firm with her, I.e. pay up or we’ll go down the small claims route.

Although the money would come in very handy, I could live without it so (as some of you pointed out), it’s more about what it means. If I don’t challenge her about this then what kind of message am I sending myself and more importantly my children? That it’s fine to get walked all over in life and others are more important than you.

I will find this very hard but will do it, thank you all so much.

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katy1213 · 11/03/2021 12:25

Solicitor's letter, making it clear that she will also be liable for court costs. Then she can go in tears to some other soft-hearted friend and scam them.

FOJN · 11/03/2021 12:25

Good for you OP. Standing up for yourself gets easier the more you do it. I hope your "friend" pays up and stops taking the piss but whatever she does please remember it's not your fault she's behaved so badly.

MNWorldisCrazy · 11/03/2021 12:29

You've posted about this before, haven't you?