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To resent having to care for my father?

118 replies

Mixedupmuddle · 10/03/2021 18:16

Not sure what the rules are with regards to trigger warnings on here but just wanted to put something incase you don’t want to read on. I have name changed as I fear this could be recognizable.

My relationship with my father has been rocky for many years after suffering emotional and sometimes physical abuse growing up, the relationship is quite frankly irreparable.

He still has a very unkind/rude/stubborn/streak with a terrible temper and growing up he would say many, many incredibly unkind things to me (sibling was the golden child so only really impacted me). Without sounding unkind I could count the likeable things about him on less than one hand. He will even make frankly vulgar sexual comments about the carers who come in to help him 🤢

In an ideal world where he didn’t need all this help, I would probably be almost, if not completely no contact with him. This of course is not possible and I can only see his needs increasing as he continues to age.

His health has taken a steep decline in recent years, to the point where he needs a lot of care and couldn’t physically manage alone.

Without wanting to out myself too much and reveal the circumstances, this caring has fallen to me as even with some funding, he can only afford carers to come in once a day and that isn’t enough for the level of care he needs (golden child doesn’t live close enough to go round there everyday.)

All the carers have time to do Is wash and dress him each day and sort his breakfast. I do a range of caring duties for him which range from changing dressings to cleaning up his excrement etc, cleaning, sorting other food etc. He can sometimes need to change his clothes during the day if he souls himself etc which makes things difficult.

Due to the way I was treated by my father for so long and the things he will still say to me now, I am finding it increasingly difficult not to feel resentful (he’s still a very difficult, stubborn and rude man).

I feel he’s reaching the point where he might need a care home in the next couple of years, but he has said he would rather end things than go into one so that’s just not going to happen. (He sees it as part of my duty to care for him.)

He doesn’t have any friends and the only other family members are aging/unwell themselves and are unable to care for him.

I of course still do all the things he needs but the resentment is building. We could never have a conversation about it as he thinks he is wonderful and doesn’t see how awful his behaviour is and has been in the past which has had a lasting impact on me.

I don’t know why I’m really writing this or what I hope to gain from it, maybe just hoping someone else has been in my position. What did you do?

Without sounding unkind, the only way I can see this ending is when he dies. I’m not sure how much more I can take though.

AIBU to resent caring for him? I feel so incredibly guilty for feeling this way but don’t see how things can change.

If you feel I am being unreasonable, I am totally prepared to accept this and would like to hear your reasons why as it might make me feel less resentful about things.

OP posts:
Snowball70 · 10/03/2021 19:12

Step back OP Flowers

Teaand · 10/03/2021 19:17

I haven't read all the responses. But you don't have to provide care. Please contact your local adult social care team inform them you are no longer happy to provide care. Ask for an assessment of his need. Finchaly he may have to pay depending on his income/savings. The independent age has good attics about how to request care and when you have to pay for it. Please also contact your local carers support organisations or carers UK. Who can support you to end your caring role. The social services team may try and say they have waiting lists and you have to wait months
(They do) but if you feel unable to cope please state that you are close to carer breakdown and are no longer able to provide care. Sorry for typos I am on my phone and in a hurry during to being the children bed time. But didn't want to read and run.

Clarich007 · 10/03/2021 19:21

Hi OP.
You have nothing to feel guilty about, please believe that.Everyone on here has said the same.
I was just about to retire after 44 years in a stressful 10 hours a day full time job as a chef, when my mum in law developed dementia and needed a lot of care.We contacted adult social services.I really had to pluck up the courage to say no, but I did it and they were fine.I really loved and respected her but couldn't do it.Be firm and they will have to help.Good luck to you.You don't owe your Dad anything, especually after your difficult childhood wwith him.Stand up for yourself, say no and mean it.The relief will be incredible, it was for me

Unsure33 · 10/03/2021 19:21

If he does not own his own house then yes he should be assessed by social services . He could be entitled to three calls a day dependant on his needs .

Unsure33 · 10/03/2021 19:22

Especially if he is danger of falls or can not look after himself .

Reinventinganna · 10/03/2021 19:22

I had a similar situation although I loved the family member dearly. Caring for a family member is hard (even without him not being nice so can’t imagine how it is for you!). I work on a busy ward and it’s a breeze compared to caring for family!

I did it for years but got to the stage where it was affecting my health. The family member was against a home and other family didn’t want to know. I called social services and they gave them a care package and eventually did go into a home after realising that they couldn’t be cared for in their home.
I hated myself for it but they ended up receiving much better care than I could give and passed comfortably.

It is only going to get worse.

Bluetrews25 · 10/03/2021 19:23

Let him reap what he has sown, OP.
Very hard to do, but please step back.
Hope you are ok Flowers

RichPetunia · 10/03/2021 19:25

If he goes into hospital again, you have to say he needs a care package to leave. The NHS trust will then get your local authority and a social worker involved. If you say you’ll take care of him he will be allowed back home before you can blink an eye. You need to be strong and not feel guilt tripped into reverting back to your current duties.
In the meantime, visit his gp and explain the situation and they can put a referral in for extra care. Again, do not accept your Dad home if he goes into hospital. Start to put the wheels in motion so you can plan for a life of your own.
There’s also a section on Mumsnet called Elderly Parents that you should find useful.

JackieWeaverHandforthCouncil · 10/03/2021 19:29

He’s continuing the abuse by refusing to ease the burden on you and go into a home. Call his bluff and arrange it tomorrow. You’ve been abused by him so long that you are confused. Tell golden child to come and look after him, he’ll probably give her the the inheritance regardless of how often you wipe his bottom anyway.

JackieWeaverHandforthCouncil · 10/03/2021 19:31

My aunt cared for her abusive DH when he got dementia. It ground her down so much that she ended up dying of a heart attack before him. Don’t let him ruin your health.

ASimpleLampoon · 10/03/2021 19:32

Put him in a home.

Tal45 · 10/03/2021 19:34

If he insists on not going into care then unless he is in danger he will probably get carers 4 times a day (this is the most you can have before it's not financially viable and you have to go into care).

Don't do this any more OP, you deserve a life now away from this abuser xxx

GreenBalaclava · 10/03/2021 19:35

When my grandma needed this level of care, she went into a home. She disliked it and wanted my mum to care for her (obviously my mum as her daughter - this was not expected of her two sons) even though my mum was still working and lived in a different county. The thing is that she'd put my mum in boarding school at age 5, so funnily enough my mum didn't feel a strong obligation to care for her in return.

Your dad needs to sell his house and use it to pay care home fees. And you need to not feel guilty about this.

dividedwefall · 10/03/2021 19:35

You are definitely not being unreasonable. He is lucky to have you and if he is still being rude, ungrateful and abusive then the only thing to do is hand his care to social services. Once he is alone with no children to do his bidding and excrement cleaning he may reflect on why that may be.

dividedwefall · 10/03/2021 19:37

@JackieWeaverHandforthCouncil

He’s continuing the abuse by refusing to ease the burden on you and go into a home. Call his bluff and arrange it tomorrow. You’ve been abused by him so long that you are confused. Tell golden child to come and look after him, he’ll probably give her the the inheritance regardless of how often you wipe his bottom anyway.
Yeah this too. He is seemingly happy to be a huge burden to you.
WTAFdoodles · 10/03/2021 19:45

I have very similar situation at present but my father is in earlier stage of care.

I cut him off completely for a long time but when I had children allowed him 1 day a week supervised visit. That was the most I felt comfortable would not impact them as he had me. Over time he's had a little more but our relationship has never ever been ok.

He's made very clear he won't be going into a home and will "kill himself" before doing so. But he knows he has onset dementia, has a host of diagnosed MH disorders which cause paranoia, aggression and delusions. All incredibly hard to deal with on a general basis never mind when caring for him. His personal hygiene is shocking. I've had social services involved before but they always say that as he has substantial money and is not deemed by law to be unsound of mind to the point of being unable to make decisions, they cannot intervene. He believes it is the duty of the state to provide care as needed so won't spend a penny of the money he squirrels away and splurges on various women.

The future is not looking rosy for me if I'm forced to provide care for him. Of course I know I can't really "be forced" but the fact is if I don't, nobody will. He has too much money to be helped by the state but refuses to spend it. And if I turn a blind eye he will literally sit and rot in his own excrement and take pleasure in doing so to get at me- I know that sounds awful but it's true. Or, I wouldn't put it past him at all to kill himself.

WTAFdoodles · 10/03/2021 19:48

@RichPetunia Exactly that happened to us. Went into hospital, discharged under care package. Social care agreed very difficult patient with host of mental issues but not bad enough to give me control of decisions and assets. So discharged with 2 weeks of help then- nothing, on our own again. The system is very difficult.

tsmainsqueeze · 10/03/2021 19:51

I really feel for you, even if you had a loving relationship this is / will become too much for you.
Speaking from experience social services will leave you to get on with this if you show willing.
I would contact them and request ( demand! ) an assessment / involvement with a social worker who deals with elderly and their needs , you need to make it crystal clear that you are not going to do this anymore and what are they going to do for your dad ?
If you need to be on their back by ringing daily -ish do so.
Remind them of their duty of care and that your fathers unmet needs are a safeguarding issue.
If you look on the website of your local council you should be able to find contact details for emergency out of hours social worker contact.
I repeat ,unless you make yourself heard they will let you get on with it. Good luck .

SoUmmYeah · 10/03/2021 19:54

You really don't need to do it.

Get a social care assessment for him. Tell them you won't do it and get them to organise it.

It is means tested but they don't take property in to consideration if he's still living in it and the threshold is quite high and is a sliding scale, rather than paying for all or getting it free.

I'm an adult social worker and we've got loads of who have no family help for loads of reasons. We put care in for everything- cooking, washing, dressing, cleaning and shopping etc. Even collecting medicine and taking to the drs.

Tagagzjskva · 10/03/2021 19:59

YANBU

And harsh as this might sound, you have no obligation to care for him

If you withdrew your services now, he would have to pay for more care or a care home. If his assets and savings are below a certain level the LA would fund this.

Basically, your saving him money

canary1 · 10/03/2021 19:59

Just stop doing it

Crackerofdoom · 10/03/2021 20:00

I agree with everyone else here. What I would add, based on my experience of the care system is that as long as you are still giving the care and asking for more help, you won't get it.

I worked with a woman in a similar position but with her son. It was not until she dropped him off at his respite care facility and refused to take him back home that provision was found despite her saying for months that she couldn't cope.

It sounds brutal but resources are allocated on a highest need basis and as long as you are actually providing the care, he will not fall into that category.

BrilliantBetty · 10/03/2021 20:03

You need to stop.
You can't be his carer - you don't want to do it and you don't have to.

Put a date on it. Give him and perhaps local social services reasonable notice (a month?) that you will be withdrawing all assistance. Then really do stop giving this caring assistance. It is up to him and them to work out how to manage his care going forward. If he needs to sell property, let him.

Dailywalk · 10/03/2021 20:10

Sounds to me that he needs to be in care now. You can’t put your life on hold just waiting for things to get even harder. Don’t feel guilty about it. Different circumstances but my DD had to go into care and it was the best for him and us. When I hear people say they don’t ever want to go into a home I think they are being selfish. I don’t want to be a burden to my family. If I need looking after and a care home is the solution then so be it.

BlowDryRat · 10/03/2021 20:13

YANBU. As others have said, you're under no obligation to care for him. Ring social services, tell them about his care needs and that there's no one to care for him. They will say there's no one available to do an assessment until next month/you will have to cope in the interim. Tell them you are not available to do any care as of tomorrow. And stick to it.

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