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AIBU?

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Am I being uptight or is she a cheeky sod?

116 replies

HarryorHas · 09/03/2021 18:50

Neighbour has had insulation in house and shouted over to Dh on Saturday that the builders needed to do some work. Huge scaffolding has been in our garden, by the back door since then and only two hours work has been done on the wall by the builders. That was the first thing I'mgetying a bit 😩about. I have an active toddler Dd who needs to get out in the garden and can’t.
Second thing is, I looked this afternoon and a section of the wall that divides us, part of her house, yes, but also into our back garden is jutting out and will stay like that? 🤷🏻‍♀️
She hasn’t even asked if that’s ok, is that normal? It’s just been done, but goes into our garden. That wall section has chairs and table for sitting out.
I spoke to Dh about it and asked did she ask him, does he think it’s ok like that etc..cue huge argument, where he said I need to chill out and it’s not a problem at all.
Whatsapped mum and dad who said they wouldn’t like it either.
Aibu? will add pics and hopefully it makes sense.

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MessagesKeepGettingClearer · 09/03/2021 19:39

Honestly?

I'm sorry but I'm with your partner.

Re scaffolding... The builder doesn't put up the scaffolding. They would have scheduled this a while ago. Maybe the builder has unforeseen delays. It's only Tuesday and it went up on Saturday. I think you're being unfair about this. We had scaffolding up for months for our extension, our neighbours were extremely understanding and accommodating. I'm sorry, I think you're being uptight. My kids missed out on a year of garden play - we used the parks...

Re the overhang. On the photo it looks about an inch or two? Who's land is that, officially? If it's your land then you are absolutely within your rights to object. Do it asap with Planning and Building Control. If it's their land then it's not something you need to be asked about.

AmandaHoldensLips · 09/03/2021 19:42

Sounds like your DH is a chicken shit and doesn't want to go and have a grown up conversation about what exactly the neighbours are doing.

HarryorHas · 09/03/2021 19:57

It’s 100% sticking out onto our garden now,
How does it work, it’s like a piece of foam, do they brick over this and paint or what? It just looks odd as before was one smooth, same size wall and now is a section jutting out 🤷🏻‍♀️Does it stay like that, won’t it look ridiculous.

Dh definitely too laid back and chicken shit about it. This neighbour isn’t a very nice person (literally everyone else on the street is lovely aside from her) but wouldn’t you have to ask if it’s ok that it goes an inch over? Would she know this?

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HarryorHas · 09/03/2021 19:58

@MessagesKeepGettingClearer There’s no way this is being up for months. It’s lockdown and we’ve got a nice garden where we’ve just purchased a new slide etc as here no parks are open. My Dd needs to at least be able to have fun in her own garden.

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HarryorHas · 09/03/2021 19:59

Oh and Dh said she texted him today and said the scaffolding is coming down tomorrow, how can it be? It looks barely finished,
It’s annoying it’s been up since Saturday but they’ve only come and done two hours work on it.

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ClarkeGriffin · 09/03/2021 20:00

It's only an inch, but it's still your property. They should have hired an architect and builder who understood what boundaries are. Not your problem, it's theirs.

If you tried to build an extension now, you're going to probably have issues. Why should you just because their contractors can't count?

Shrivelled · 09/03/2021 20:00

If they’re doing work on a party wall you should have been notified via a party wall notice. You need to know exactly where your boundary is. A party wall surveyor should be able to help. It’s not something I’d let slide as you don’t want an unresolved issue that rears it’s ugly head if you try to sell your house in the future. Anything overhanging your boundary line even by a few centimetres needs to be resolved.

BalancedIndividual · 09/03/2021 20:02

Yes it would bother me.

Because when i did my extension I was considerate enough to do it within my boundry. Any considerate neighbour would do the same.

MessagesKeepGettingClearer · 09/03/2021 20:06

[quote HarryorHas]@MessagesKeepGettingClearer There’s no way this is being up for months. It’s lockdown and we’ve got a nice garden where we’ve just purchased a new slide etc as here no parks are open. My Dd needs to at least be able to have fun in her own garden.[/quote]
It's not up to you how long it's up for, you can't physically remove it. And remember, what goes around, comes around. And if the builders aren't there I can't see why you're daughter can't use the garden?

Did you not challenge the planning permission?

Have you tried to look up the planning to see what's been approved?

Shrivelled · 09/03/2021 20:07

I wouldn't find this to be a massive problem. Did you expect her to remove her wall, rebuild it a couple of inches over and then add the insulation? Or not insulate the section on the boundary?

If that’s the party wall I’d expect her to do what everyone else does and put the insulation on the interior face of the wall.

HarryorHas · 09/03/2021 20:07

@BalancedIndividual I find it all a bit confusing as this wall was completely flat so to do any insulation on the outside, would it have to stick out?

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dotdashdashdash · 09/03/2021 20:09

It wouldn't bother me.

Our local council do this type of insulation on the council houses and it's like your neighbors is with you for the houses that are privately owned.

The scaffolding I couldn't get worked up over, it's been 3 days. Chances are you'll need scaffolding at some point.

Why can't you go in the garden?

HarryorHas · 09/03/2021 20:10

@MessagesKeepGettingClearer It’s in our garden?! Why do we have no say in it?

It isn’t ‘What goes around comes around’ as she happens to not be a nice person and everyone else in the street in, she has form for doing whatever she likes, whereas the rest of us are all very kind and respectful and communicate properly with one another,

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HarryorHas · 09/03/2021 20:11

@MessagesKeepGettingClearer My Dd and dog can’t go in the garden as it’s not safe with a great big, unsafe piece of scaffolding out! Dd is 2,5 years old,

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HarryorHas · 09/03/2021 20:12

@MessagesKeepGettingClearer What planning permission? She didn’t even tell us about it, shouted over the wall on Saturday morning apparently and the next thing I saw was this,

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HarryorHas · 09/03/2021 20:15

@Shrivelled If that can be done, I wonder why she hasn’t done it? Do you mean on the other side of the wall on her side? That’s where her place is to sit out, could that be the reason?

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MessagesKeepGettingClearer · 09/03/2021 20:15

[quote HarryorHas]@MessagesKeepGettingClearer It’s in our garden?! Why do we have no say in it?

It isn’t ‘What goes around comes around’ as she happens to not be a nice person and everyone else in the street in, she has form for doing whatever she likes, whereas the rest of us are all very kind and respectful and communicate properly with one another,[/quote]
Because the work has started. You presumably had a chance to challenge the planning but either didn't or the council didn't agree with you.

Look, it's lockdown, yes. That means builders may have issues with getting supplies. They may have to isolate themselves or contractors may have to let them down last minute. This is the reality and this is why it took us months and months to get the scaffolding down. Reality happens, especially during a pandemic.

Yes she may be awful, but you still haven't said if you've even approached this from an official route yet? Via the council?

You want your husband to go round but haven't gone round yourself?

People are entitled to do work on their property. If you don't agree with how it's being done then challenge it.

It's been up 2 working days. YABU to be arsy about the scaffolding.

ChangedName4TheSakeOfIt · 09/03/2021 20:15

I don't know what country you're in but there must be local county/town laws on building. Having her house basically extended, even by an inch into your land is not okay and you should have the right to object and have it removed. This would piss me off massively. It's not her garden to build into!!!

MessagesKeepGettingClearer · 09/03/2021 20:16

[quote HarryorHas]@MessagesKeepGettingClearer What planning permission? She didn’t even tell us about it, shouted over the wall on Saturday morning apparently and the next thing I saw was this,[/quote]
Then. Contact the planning team. Ask them if they've received any notice of it.

Ask Building Control if they have any oversight of it.

Use the official channels.

ClarkeGriffin · 09/03/2021 20:16

You clearly don't like her, which if she actually isn't a nice person is understandable. So you've got excellent ammo to piss her off. Make her move the wall.

HarryorHas · 09/03/2021 20:17

@MessagesKeepGettingClearer Up five days tomorrow.
Challenge what planning? We had no idea about it and it’s been done?

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MessagesKeepGettingClearer · 09/03/2021 20:17

[quote HarryorHas]@MessagesKeepGettingClearer My Dd and dog can’t go in the garden as it’s not safe with a great big, unsafe piece of scaffolding out! Dd is 2,5 years old,[/quote]
My children were 1.5-2.5 when our scaffolding was up. It's secure. It stayed up with no issue. The only time it was unsafe was towards the end when the scaffolding was getting ready to come down and nails were around. Otherwise it was fine.

You're making a mountain out of a molehill. It's been up a matter of days 🙄

MessagesKeepGettingClearer · 09/03/2021 20:18

[quote HarryorHas]@MessagesKeepGettingClearer Up five days tomorrow.
Challenge what planning? We had no idea about it and it’s been done?[/quote]
Then, for the third time, contact the council and enquire.

HarryorHas · 09/03/2021 20:18

@MessagesKeepGettingClearer Yes of course people are entitled to do work on their property, but it’s all being built on our property 🤷🏻‍♀️Shouldn’t be have a say in that

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mamaoffourdc · 09/03/2021 20:20

She might not be aware of your size - go amd have a chat