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The Mandela Effect

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Bellver888 · 07/03/2021 23:32

Has anyone experienced it?
I’m currently sending my head backwards and forwards because I thought “Vimto” was “Vimpto”

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Carolina24 · 08/03/2021 09:33

I was one of the many people who swore salt n vinegar crisp packets swapped colours with cheese n onion. Apparently they didn't.

Me too! Can’t believe this isn’t real!

covetingthepreciousthings · 08/03/2021 09:34

I looked into this recently and couldn't believe there wasn't really 52 states of America, as well as the Looney Toons one..

Oh and C3P0 having a silver leg! Who knew!

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 08/03/2021 09:34

@PattyPano. No I can actually picture the word Toons. I can clearly remember seeing it written down.

boltfromtheblueblue · 08/03/2021 09:34

The Mandela effect is just the startling arrogance of people who prefer to believe that the entire universe changed rather than they remembered something wrong.
Modern narcissism at it's finest.

thebakeoffwasntasgoodthisyear · 08/03/2021 09:35

I was reading about this online and tried it out on my son - he thought Pikachu from pokemon had a black tip on his yellow tail - apparently thats quite common with the Mandela effect.

Re crisps - walkers are using the wrong colours! I remember when they became available in NI and everyone was getting caught out with salt & vinegar being in the (wrongly coloured) green bag.

MuddleMoo · 08/03/2021 09:36

@Carolina24

I was one of the many people who swore salt n vinegar crisp packets swapped colours with cheese n onion. Apparently they didn't.

Me too! Can’t believe this isn’t real!

They didnt!!? Wha!
thebakeoffwasntasgoodthisyear · 08/03/2021 09:36

The Mandela effect is just the startling arrogance of people who prefer to believe that the entire universe changed rather than they remembered something wrong.
Modern narcissism at it's finest.

Grin sorry, I realise you probably didn’t mean this to be funny but it made me laugh on an otherwise dreary Monday morning

BrumBoo · 08/03/2021 09:36

I say Vimpto!

Queen Victoria never said 'we are not amused'.

Spied · 08/03/2021 09:37

Well this is a bit morbid but I can remember a Hairy Biker dying and they showed his picture during the National Television Awards etc.
Really.

Spied · 08/03/2021 09:37

Please someone agree with me.
Everyone irl looks at me like I'm crazy.

StillCoughingandLaughing · 08/03/2021 09:38

[quote Awwlookatmybabyspider]@PattyPano. No I can actually picture the word Toons. I can clearly remember seeing it written down.[/quote]
Tiny Toons maybe?

Spied · 08/03/2021 09:38

Grin I know I must be but I really saw it

DdraigGoch · 08/03/2021 09:38

@scrivette

I thought it was Looney Toons as well.
It makes more sense when you remember that the partner series was "Merrie Melodies" (though many people refer to that as Looney Tunes too) and that Disney's Version was "Silly Symphonies".
boltfromtheblueblue · 08/03/2021 09:38

Please someone agree with me

No. Because that quite obviously never happened.

BarbaraofSeville · 08/03/2021 09:39

@Spied

Well this is a bit morbid but I can remember a Hairy Biker dying and they showed his picture during the National Television Awards etc. Really.
Are you thinking about the Two Fat Ladies?

They rode around on motorbikes talking about food too.

I think one of the Hairy Bikers might have had a serious health scare, but obviously survived, could that be what you're thinking of?

BertieBotts · 08/03/2021 09:40

Perhaps someone else died in the 1980s and people remember it incorrectly as Nelson Mandela?

Crisp thing defo seems to have been the market leader switching. You wouldn't specifically remember "Walkers" vs "Golden Wonder", you'd just remember the most obvious brand of crisp.

I remember around the same time being surprised to discover that crisp packets suddenly became shiny (silver) inside as opposed to white. I would guess that was a change between GW and Walkers, rather than Walkers always having existed but suddenly having started using foil, but I was very young at the time and didn't have any idea about brands.

StillCoughingandLaughing · 08/03/2021 09:40

@Awwlookatmybabyspider

Me too Harriet. I remember as clear as day Cheese and onion crisps were green and salt and vinegar were blue. The colours were switched in about 1992.
What DID happen in around 1992 was that the plastic bags with the clear panel you could see through were ditched in favour of the foil packets we know today. That would explain why people remember A change.
Awwlookatmybabyspider · 08/03/2021 09:40

@ Pyongyang. You do make an interesting and fair point. Why was all this only noticed almost 30 years after the "death" of Nelson Mandela".

We or some of us are meant to have switched realities in 2012. So if I have switched and my daughter hasn't does that mean I now have a different version of my daughter. All very scary

StillCoughingandLaughing · 08/03/2021 09:41

@BertieBotts

Perhaps someone else died in the 1980s and people remember it incorrectly as Nelson Mandela?

Crisp thing defo seems to have been the market leader switching. You wouldn't specifically remember "Walkers" vs "Golden Wonder", you'd just remember the most obvious brand of crisp.

I remember around the same time being surprised to discover that crisp packets suddenly became shiny (silver) inside as opposed to white. I would guess that was a change between GW and Walkers, rather than Walkers always having existed but suddenly having started using foil, but I was very young at the time and didn't have any idea about brands.

Cross-post! Walkers did switch from plastic to foil in the early 90s.
CounsellorTroi · 08/03/2021 09:43

Captain Kirk never said “Beam me up, Scotty” and Mr Spock never said “It’s life Jim, but not as we know it”. That quote is from The Firm song Star Trekkin.

StillCoughingandLaughing · 08/03/2021 09:44

@StillCoughingandLaughing

My favourite example of this is the conspiracy theory around the 80s film ‘Shazam’, starring the comedian Sinbad. (Not related to the 2019 film of the same name.)

In the early days of the internet, when people used to talk on message boards for the sheer novelty of talking to people around the world, it became a popular topic - basically ‘OMG I loved that movie when I was a kid; how come it’s never on TV anymore? You can’t even find it on VHS’. Then DVDs became mainstream and people started asking why it wasn’t being released on DVD.

Eventually it became a very big thing and Sinbad gets to hear about it. He says, ‘Sorry everyone - the movie you think you remember doesn’t exist. You’re thinking of ‘Kazaam’, which is from the early 90s and actually stars Shaquielle O’Neal [who looks a bit like him]. I never made a movie called ‘Shazam’’.

If you look up Kazaam, it has the exact plot described for Shazam - kindly, comical genie helps two orphans. You’d think this would be the end of utter. Ohhhh no. Cue thousands of people telling Sinbad he’s wrong; why is he lying?! Why can’t we watch the movie we love?!? He MUST have had it suppressed somehow.

To put this into context, Sinbad was last in the news for an unpaid $1m tax bill. He’s not influential enough to suppress THAT - but he’s managed to have a film taken out of circulation worldwide?

Google it - it’s fascinating how people are so desperate to prove they’re right, even when all the evidence screams otherwise.

Forgot to add on this one - Sinbad even explained that he appeared in a series of commercials playing a genie around the same time; hence people are remembering him in a genie costume. No - he’s still wrong.
Awwlookatmybabyspider · 08/03/2021 09:45

ET said "ET home phone" not "ET phone home"

boltfromtheblueblue · 08/03/2021 09:45

You do make an interesting and fair point. Why was all this only noticed almost 30 years after the "death" of Nelson Mandela".We or some of us are meant to have switched realities in 2012

It's the influence of the internet and social media. It wasn't a thing 30-40 years ago because a)people weren't as bloody daft then and b) people weren't so self-absorbed then and c) they didn't witter about this nonsense on the internet with other daft self absorbed people.

IT may feel like we switched realities around 2012 but unfortunately that's just around the time where humanity finally jumped the shark.

honeylulu · 08/03/2021 09:45

The monopoly man without monocle was the one that for me. I've googled loads of images and it's true, no monocle. Where did the mobile memory come from? It's a really common one. Makes me think there must shave been a similar brand image (cartoon man with top hat and monocle) for something else...

In Gone With the Wind the line "Frankly my dear, I don't give a damn" is never spoken. Likewise "Play it again, Sam" in Casablanca.

StillCoughingandLaughing · 08/03/2021 09:48

I’ve just remembered; a couple of years back an American friend claimed on Facebook that Donald Trump had died in 2005, he distinctly remembers it being major news for days, but then suddenly not being referenced and he was alive again Grin Someone commented, ‘OMG, really? I totally don’t remember that!’ I wanted to scream, ‘Of course you don’t remember it - it never bloody happened!’