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Piers Morgan wants masks worn whilst running...

686 replies

Trulyatraditionalman · 02/03/2021 10:08

AIBU to think this is ridiculous?

OP posts:
user1497207191 · 02/03/2021 11:59

@poppycat10

If I'm walking and there's someone already walking towards me on a narrow bit or under a bridge, I wait to the side until they come past. Joggers and cyclists seem unable to grasp that concept

Well it's easier for you to wait for them because they will get through the narrow bit faster. If somewhere is very narrow I will wait for a cyclist as I will wait less time for them than they would have to wait for me on foot.

I work on the principle of who was there first, not who is fastest. If someone is already in a narrow bit, they have the priority. What do you want them to do? Turn around and go back? First come, first served!
WhatATimeToBeAlive · 02/03/2021 12:00

Well if we're going to get that pedantic, then smoking outside should also be banned. I don't want to walk through clouds of your smoke/vape that you have exhaled. So, no I agree with you, Piers is being ridiculous - as per.

Dinnafashyersel · 02/03/2021 12:01

Piers Morgan should self-isolate permanently with a burka.

Totallydefeated · 02/03/2021 12:02

But what do you expect them to do if the path is too narrow? Jump into the canal?

Wait?

What would be so terrible about runners stopping to wait their turn occasionally?

I get it’s annoying. But then so are many other things we need to do for others, because we live as part of a society.

fortyfifty · 02/03/2021 12:03

I'm crap at running but can see through people who project their own feelings of inadequacy on to runners/cyclists by finding petty ways to demonise them.

Runners are not the reason we had such high infection rates and all the while people engage in petty infighting, it takes the focus off the real culprits - our current government.

Lweji · 02/03/2021 12:03

runners are posing more of a risk to others than walkers

Your own family poses a much higher risk. Should we all wear masks inside our homes too?

You can never have zero risk, but crossing a runner on the street really offers very low risk. I'd even say below the risk of two people wearing masks indoors, particularly if not 100% air tight around the face.

MrBullinaChinaShop · 02/03/2021 12:04

Piers Morgan also wants the plebs to stay at home while he fucks off on holiday to Antigua, so he has absolutely no credibility.

user1497207191 · 02/03/2021 12:04

@potatopot

I don't think runners should wear masks, but some effort to deviate from their entirely straight path would be welcome. I assume they don't want to ruin their 'time' or something by swerving slightly out of their hogging of the middle of the path.
I think it's the like of smart watches/fitbits etc that cause runners to lose all sense. All that matters is their "time" and if it inconveniences someone else, then sod 'em.

Personally I think if someone is serious about timing their runs etc., then need to be on proper running tracks or far quieter/wider pathways.

Narrow paths where there are lots of people about is no place to try to break your own record.

Kokosrieksts · 02/03/2021 12:05

It’s madness, no masks should not be worn outside ever!!!

Gerla · 02/03/2021 12:06

I think it's the like of smart watches/fitbits etc that cause runners to lose all sense. All that matters is their "time" and if it inconveniences someone else, then sod 'em.

I agree. I live near a busy junction and hardly any runners wait for the green man to cross. They would rather risk their lives than add on a few seconds to their times!

likeamillpond · 02/03/2021 12:09

@AuntieStella

I give plenty of space tomwalkers whenever possible, including waiting when the path narrows.

When however walkers are 5 or 6 abreast, taking the entire width of the path, and showing no inclination to move to merely 3 abreast (which would give plenty of room for everyone) then chances are I'll just keep going even thoughmeans passing v close

That happens pretty much every day, and I think everyone needs to think a bit more about how much space they are taking up on footpaths, and how to share nicely

Exactly. Plenty of inconsiderate walkers around. IRefusing to fall into single file when someone is walking or running towards them. As a runner AND a regular walker AND a regular cyclist, let me tell you, there are inconsiderate people across the boards.
LilMidge01 · 02/03/2021 12:11

@RonObvious

if a runner is coming at you...you should give them right of way

Nope. I always teach my kids that you give way for the slowest moving pedestrian. Pavements are primarily for walking. And I'm a regular runner.

I agree about the spitting though - why do people feel the need to do that? I mean, seriously?

Welp, I'm sorry to say it but that doesn't sound like a very sensible thing to teach- I am not claiming that you should always give way to runners, I'm saying people should give way to the person who would be most inconvenienced. Let me give examples...

So if someone is running towards you, you would not expect your children to move slightly to the side to let them past or drop into single file, you would expect the runner to stop, step off the pathway to allow your children to walk two abreast past them along the path and once they have passed, step back on to the path and resume running?

If they are about to cross a zebra crossing on a steep hill but there is a lone cyclist approaching, struggling with the gradient, and no other cars around, they should not wait a few seconds before crossing, but should step out in front of said cyclist, (as is their right!), forcing them to stop on the steep gradient, rather than inconvenience themselves for 2 seconds?

Similarly, in situations where a runner is comign up behind you and your children, and there is someone else coming from the opposite direction, they should not zoom past close to you to overtake before the other person approaches but should slow down jogging gently at a distance behind you until the blockage is cleared, because there is no way you could know they are behind you. It works both ways.

Your 'slowest moving pedestrian' thing sounds noble on the surface but has nothing to do with general every day politeness or practicality.

And yes, I agree on spitting. Disgusting.

IWouldLikeToKnow · 02/03/2021 12:11

The WHO don't recommend wearing a mask whilst exercising.

Piers Morgan wants masks worn whilst running...
Mrsjayy · 02/03/2021 12:14

Just heard Piers Morgan is on This morning tomorrow he is like beetlejuice say his name too often Grin

Lweji · 02/03/2021 12:14

@Kokosrieksts

It’s madness, no masks should not be worn outside ever!!!
Do you mean that masks should never be worn outside? Grin

There is some justification to wear masks outside, even if the risk is not very high.

Say, a bus stop when it's raining and people have to be closer together while waiting for the bus.
People from different households walking together for exercise, because distancing is not easy.
A very busy street where you cross paths with many people, or lots of people walk in the same direction. May have to wait at traffic lights for a while, and distancing is not easy. May go in and out of shops, and it can be worse to keep putting masks on and off.
Attending a seated event, or another where distancing is not enough.

Totallydefeated · 02/03/2021 12:14

Your own family poses a much higher risk. Should we all wear masks inside our homes too?

It’s about minimising the risks where possible, reducing the number of events where transmission can occur, not saying ‘ah well, I’m running one risk over here, so in for a penny, in for a pound, I’ll abandon all other attempts to reduce my possible exposure’. Is it? Or why bother with lockdown?

My family have been careful about not exposing themselves to unnecessary risk. When a runner steams up to me and fails to give enough space I have no choice or control over that.

What’s wrong with them just running where it’s less busy, giving others space etc? So everyone gets what they want/need.

bristolone · 02/03/2021 12:15

I'm asthmatic and running has meant I need preventer inhalers less. I always run around a walker giving them enough space. I never spit. I always go early when it is quieter.

If I had to wear a mask I either wouldn't run (potentially making my asthma worse) or I'd ask for an exemption from my GP.

I wear masks in shops and when I need to even though it causes me breathlessness.

So many people in shops don't wear masks and get close. Runners are the least of our problems.

fizbosshoes · 02/03/2021 12:15

I run, and try to avoid busy areas, I always move out of the way for other pedestrians, including going into the road even when other people have made no effort to modify their behaviour
If it was very cold I have worn a buff for running before but I would not like to run in a mask, and I'd be surprised if runners were the main cause of the virus spreading.

user88899 · 02/03/2021 12:16

I'm trying to imagine how densely populated an area must be for there not be enough space that runners are "huffing and puffing" over people. I've lived in London.

Lweji · 02/03/2021 12:17

When a runner steams up to me and fails to give enough space I have no choice or control over that.

Unless they keep right next to you at your speed for a few minutes, your exposure is really really tiny.
And if there is any wind, then it's even less.

MrBullinaChinaShop · 02/03/2021 12:17

@user88899

I'm trying to imagine how densely populated an area must be for there not be enough space that runners are "huffing and puffing" over people. I've lived in London.
That’s what I always think when I read these threads. I’ve lived in 4 major European capital cities and have never been ‘huffed and puffed’ over by a runner. Maybe I was just lucky Confused.
peak2021 · 02/03/2021 12:18

I'd want 100% in shops and on public transport. Almost all runners allow space from others.

LilMidge01 · 02/03/2021 12:18

@Totallydefeated

But what do you expect them to do if the path is too narrow? Jump into the canal?

Wait?

What would be so terrible about runners stopping to wait their turn occasionally?

I get it’s annoying. But then so are many other things we need to do for others, because we live as part of a society.

Most runners I know, myself included, generally do this also. We do wait our turns where practicable but it seems that some people are riled because its not always the walkers turn and we don't stop for them every single time. I guarantee the runner has had more encounters with walkers that day than the walker has had with runners and has probably done their fair share of waiting too.

However, sometimes I must admit to having made an error of judgement, due to the nature of moving fast, people being unpredictable or not reading a situation quickly enough. A bit like the awkward dance people sometimes do when in a doorway. I try to avoid this by keeping my wits about me and looking ahead at all times. But when I do misread the situation, I hold my hand up in apology or acknowledge it. We're human too. Part of society.

BabblativeBean · 02/03/2021 12:19

@Gerla

I think it's the like of smart watches/fitbits etc that cause runners to lose all sense. All that matters is their "time" and if it inconveniences someone else, then sod 'em.

I agree. I live near a busy junction and hardly any runners wait for the green man to cross. They would rather risk their lives than add on a few seconds to their times!

I agree with this, while I was climbing over a stile the other week I was swore at by a man who was checking his watch. I am a quick climber, he was just pissed off that someone was using the stile before him and he had to wait a few seconds.

And thinking about how I've just felt the need to justify the situation by clarifying that I'm a quick climber has pissed me off even more. Everyone one has the right to use stiles, no matter how long it takes them and the world doesn't revolve around your times, awful swearing man!

Totallydefeated · 02/03/2021 12:19

Unless they keep right next to you at your speed for a few minutes, your exposure is really really tiny.
And if there is any wind, then it's even less

That’s interesting. I’ve never seen it quantified or studied. Do you have a link where I could see the data for that Lweji?