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106 replies

KnackeredHag · 28/02/2021 21:17

AIBU to tell you that I have received a hun text from a friend I see sporadically, inviting me to join a Facebook Live or Zoom to find out about her exciting and amazing new business venture? She's earning more than her full time job role, can work around the kids and is #living her best life. It's something to do with aloe vera.

It's an attempted MLM ambush isn't it? I've not replied yet.

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BrightYellowDaffodil · 28/02/2021 22:48

Ooh, I was invited to a Pampered Chef thing via a friend of a friend, being known as someone who likes cooking, but I couldn’t make the date. I’m not sad I didn’t, as I do love a good MLM Bot. I’m always deeply disappointed that I don’t know a full-on one.

Bella43 · 28/02/2021 22:48

@squirtlesquad You forgot the car. There's always a car 😂

Sorry OP but once lockdown lifts you'll be spammed the pics on Facebook of her outdoors team meeting #livingmybestlife or worse quotes like I'm not a wage slave Hmm

Viviennemary · 28/02/2021 22:49

I'd write glad you are having such a great success. But sorry you are too busy to get involved.

moanieleminx · 28/02/2021 22:50

No no no no no.

I even put anti MLM on my social media bios.

Utterly vile, the way they prey on people. Makes my blood boil.

Products are also shit. My daughter had a massive reaction to some 'aloe Vera 100% natural' products.

WeAllHaveWings · 28/02/2021 23:28

A colleague in work got into somekind of aloe Vera juice 🤮 diet thing a couple of years ago. It was hilarious watching her try to drink it at her desk and convince us how brilliant it was.

PandorasMailbox · 28/02/2021 23:53

Run like the wind OP. Someone tried to rope me into one of these aloe vera things about 15 years ago.

mumwon · 28/02/2021 23:58

@TheresOnlyOneJackieWeaver your emoji looks like they are running for the hills alright - but to do what???? Grin I have been reading mn to much its polluted my innocent mind Grin

Crankley · 28/02/2021 23:59

She is now so far down the pyramid that she is lying about making a lot of money or any money. These people would sell their soul if they thought it would mean a sale.

My goddaughter died from cancer when she was 17. In the run up to that happening, her mother was contacted by an acquaintance who was selling aloe vera through an MLM. My friend explained her daughter had cancer and was extremely ill at that point. The woman told her, 'oh how lucky I contacted you. aloe vera cures cancer.' That's how low they go to get a sale. What a lying scumbag.

BSintolerant · 01/03/2021 00:01

Forever Fibbing! Run away!

Have you seen the episode of This Country when Kerry joins an MLM “Eternal Vitality”? The scene when she retches after drinking the green juice is hilarious! “It tastes like ass doesn’t it?” Grin
www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p04sx02t/this-country-series-1-4-king-of-the-nerds

custardbear · 01/03/2021 00:01

Disengage on this

I saw someone at local high street monthly market peddling this, he was sssooo full of it, He used to be a technician in another lab near mr, he must have been well above minimum wage and he said both him and his wife gave up their jobs, pensions etc to do this - duck knows how they got on!

1Morewineplease · 01/03/2021 00:02

Beware! I ignored a Forever Living rep... she came to my door, thrice! She informed me that I was being negative and that I wasn't being supportive of her business venture.
It's so hard when they confront you, face to face, but I managed to convince her that I just didn't like these products and that I'd never use them.
She did give up after the third attempt. On the last occasion, her husband was with her and he seemed so embarrassed.
As to Body Shop.. I got roped in as I didn't believe it was anything other than a direct selling scheme. I liked Body Shop stuff and bought a few bits but I thought that the products seemed smaller. I really liked a particular body lotion and happened to be in town and thought I'd buy some from the shop.
Couldn't find it so I asked a sales assistant and was informed that this particular lotion hadn't been made for a couple of years!

BSintolerant · 01/03/2021 00:05

@Crankley

She is now so far down the pyramid that she is lying about making a lot of money or any money. These people would sell their soul if they thought it would mean a sale.

My goddaughter died from cancer when she was 17. In the run up to that happening, her mother was contacted by an acquaintance who was selling aloe vera through an MLM. My friend explained her daughter had cancer and was extremely ill at that point. The woman told her, 'oh how lucky I contacted you. aloe vera cures cancer.' That's how low they go to get a sale. What a lying scumbag.

I’m so sorry, what a tragic loss. MLMs are legendary for preying on vulnerable people but targeting someone in that situation is vile. How do they sleep at night?
YouokHun · 01/03/2021 00:05

Forever Living uplines who are often touted as super successful are so often hiding rapidly decreasing incomes, insolvency or massive directors loans which HMRC are going to get more and more efficient about asking for repayment, it’s all a big house of cards with a teeny tiny percentage of people doing very nicely and nearly everyone scraping along or losing money hand over fist.

There’s a FLP Hun who is currently being held up as super successful by a Hun overlord, with loads of people saying “eek, your (sic) so amazing Hun, where do I sign?”. What they don’t know is that she went bankrupt during her time with FLP and clearly couldn’t make FLP work for her. What chances those beneath we her?

So if your friend is doing well I’d be very surprised, especially as constant and extensive recruiting is the only way to make money and it doesn’t sound like that’s going too well for her. Sadly she’s probably one of the poor deluded people who have been tricked during the pandemic into believing they’ve entered a flexible well paid product selling role, when in fact they are at the bottom of a pyramid Forever Living uplines who are often touted as super successful are so often hiding rapidly decreasing incomes, insolvency or massive directors loans which HMRC are going to get more and more efficient about asking for repayment, it’s all a big house of cards with a teeny tiny percentage of people doing very nicely and nearly everyone scraping along or losing money hand over fist.

There’s a FLP Hun who is currently being held up as super successful by a Hun overlord, with loads of people saying “eek, your (sic) so amazing Hun, where do I sign?”. What they don’t know is that she went bankrupt during her time with FLP and clearly couldn’t make FLP work for her. What chances those beneath we her?

So if your friend is doing well I’d be very surprised, especially as constant and extensive recruiting is the only way to make money and it doesn’t sound like that’s going too well for her. Sadly she’s probably one of the poor deluded people who have been tricked during the pandemic into believing they’ve entered a flexible well paid product selling role, when in fact they are at the bottom of a pyramid scheme and the reason business is allegedly booming is because there are lots of similar victims signing up. Nowt to do with a rise in the popularity of Aloe Vera!

AnnaSW1 · 01/03/2021 00:08

Play dead!

BSintolerant · 01/03/2021 00:10

@AnnaSW1

Play dead!
She’ll have a cure for that too: it’s not called Forever Living for nothing! Grin
YouokHun · 01/03/2021 00:18

@Crankley very sorry for your loss and your story is absolutely appalling and sad to say it isn’t the first time many of us have heard of such an approach.

FLP also likes to get involved with cancer charities because they know that a good cause will benefit them. The way they do this is asking members of the public to sponsor (buy) product to put into “care packs” for patients. On the face of it this sounds charitable but all it really does is siphon off money in the direction of FLP who get to look charitable yet are making a profit on each item sponsored and their distributors are hitting their volume targets. The charity gets product care packs but loses out on the full donation they might have received if generous product sponsors had donated the cash direct. The patient “car packs” could easily be made up for a fraction of the price by sourcing not MLM products.

The same thing has been going on during the pandemic with various MLM huns asking people to sponsor product for NHS nurses.

MLM makes people abandon their moral compass as you very sadly found out. Awful.

Sandgrown1970 · 01/03/2021 00:27

Forever Living and Tropic ran rampage through my friendship circles a few years back. Oddly some of the mindset stuff from
FL seems to have genuinely changed one of them in a positive way and she went on to set up her own (genuine) business and properly achieve some of her dreams once she ditched FL.

What I find really really sad is one of my friends who was made redundant during the pandemic from a job she was incredible at for many decades and who has now joined Utility Warehouse.
She’s lucky if she earns £20 a week from it and I’m genuinely worried for her and hoping something better comes up for her soon.

RickiTarr · 01/03/2021 00:27

I refuse to answer to “hun” for most intents and purposes. It really streamlines life. If someone calls you hun, always always create as much distance as possible.

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SquirtleSquad · 01/03/2021 07:39

Someone tried to suck me into selling LumiSpa, with this lying strawberry..

The first one is using normal cleaning techniques to remove the foundation from the strawberry and its "pores", the second one is meant to demonstrate how that same strawberry that couldn't be cleaned with usual cleaners is now spotless with just 30 seconds of lumispa.

They're different fucking strawberries.

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Adios2011 · 01/03/2021 08:39

During the pandemic, I've been invited to about 3 mlm Facebook groups a week, it's relentless 🤦‍♀️

Someone I know is an 'area manager' for an mlm, but she buys loads of products every month herself and thats how she got her 'promotion', I really don't see the point of doing that!

LibyanFeet · 01/03/2021 08:41

Typical hunbot logic there: “I know how to prove how good this overpriced tat is! I’ll put foundation on this strawberry ...” I’m shocked. We all know that MLMs attract dishonest behaviour but I’ve never seen anyone drag a strawberry into such a tangled web of lies and deceit. That’s a new low. Grin

Malteser71 · 01/03/2021 08:42

I love how they call themselves ‘business owners.’

Used to work in the co-op, now giving Alan Sugar a run for his money after spending a couple of hundred on face creams.

Boss babes.

Malteser71 · 01/03/2021 08:47

Also. How do they get the car? Why is it always white?

Whose house is that in the back ground?

Do you get something else if you sell a bit less? A moped? A bike?