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Messaging somebody's fiancé

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namechanged03 · 28/02/2021 20:23

Hello

So about 5 years ago, I started talking to somebody via Twitter which then turned flirty, made plans to meet etc but wasn't right but we've stayed "internet friends" since.

He's now engaged with a baby and NOTHING has been remotely flirty since about 4 years ago.

Occasionally he'll put a story or picture on his Instagram of his fiancé and kids I always like it etc, lovely to see him happy bla bla.

I've got a partner, no secrets, he goes on my phone quite often to check something if his phones out of battery, it's got no passcode nothing to hide.

Anyway, last night I put on my Instagram a recipe for my home made macaroni cheese and said guy messaged me and said "hi how are you? Stolen the receipt for Mac cheese looks amazing" I replied "I'm good thanks how are you? How is (sons and fiancées name) hope you're all well!" He replied "we are great thank you!" I double tapped it to like it.

Well this morning I've woken up to a friend request from her and he's unfollowed me and taken me off his followers! I haven't accepted her friend request yet as I imagine she's not going to be happy due to the fact he's unfollowed etc I imagine she's seen these messages and isn't happy.

Other private messages included me congratulating him and her on birth of baby etc nothing at all dodgy, no kisses or anything.

Just want to get some perspective. Shall I accept her as she obviously wants to talk to me?

For the record he doesn't ever like any photos unless it's of my dog or me and my partner.

I feel anxious to accept her as I don't want any drama and certainly didn't mean to cause any upset between them. I asked my partner and he just said to delete her friends request and get on with it.

What would you guys do?

OP posts:
sunflowersandbuttercups · 01/03/2021 12:36

As an aside, why are you so involved in this stranger's life? I'd understand this weird social media relationship you both have if you had met in person, were long-term friends, had known each other in real life for years prior - but this is an internet 'friend' that you've never met in real life (presumably, never even spoken on the phone to)

What are you talking about? Having internet friends is perfectly normal.

I'm 32 now and I'm still friends with people I met on the internet in my teens! Some of those friendships are 16 years old now and stronger than many "real life" friendships. We've spoken on the phone, via FaceTime and Zoom and we message online as well.

Those people aren't strangers to me - it's a bit odd to suggest you have to know someone in person for them to count as a friend!

wishes1111 · 01/03/2021 14:02

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SanguineParadise · 01/03/2021 14:14

@sunflowersandbuttercups - that's my point. Friendships 'progress', not stagnate. You've spoken to your online friends on the phone, via FaceTime and Zoom. I also presume, irrespective of the gender of your online friends, you tell your partners/family/friends about them - whether that be mentioning them casually in conversation, showing a funny photo they've posted, or even saying "sorry, I can't cook dinner this evening, I'm planning on a zoom call with X". I also presume, to some extent, these friends are involved in your life and you in theirs.

The difference between your friendships and OP's friendship is:

a) As I said, friendships progress, not stagnate. This particular relationship went from being flirtatious, with long, deep phone conversations, to less frequent 'surface-level' messages and likes being sent largely by OP to the man. The OP doesn't know anything about this man 5 years on, other than what he chooses to publicly display on social media to her and every other follower he has. By definition, this therefore is not a 'friendship'.

b) The secrecy aspect: the wife clearly did not even know of her existence, let alone that they were still in touch 5 years on. They didn't (until yesterday) follow each other on social media. I'm sure, @sunflowersandbuttercups, that you speak to your partners, family, etc about your online friends, and that you update your online friends about those people who are important to you in real life when you have conversations on the phone with them. This aspect of that friendship is missing between OP and the man.

c) The one-sided dynamic: it seems like OP is the one initiating most of the communication here - "Occasionally he'll put a story or picture on his Instagram of his fiancé and kids I always like it" and "Other private messages included me congratulating him and her on birth of baby etc" vs "For the record he doesn't ever like any photos unless it's of my dog or me and my partner."

Even in this conversation:

"I put on my Instagram a recipe for my home made macaroni cheese and said guy messaged me and said "hi how are you? Stolen the receipt for Mac cheese looks amazing" I replied "I'm good thanks how are you? How is (sons and fiancées name) hope you're all well!" He replied "we are great thank you!" I double tapped it to like it."

He only got in touch with OP because of a recipe, and asked how she was doing out of politeness (notice that, unlike OP's replies to him, he doesn't ask about/mention her partner - presumably because he's not as invested in her life as she is in his). OP herself is the one carrying on the conversation, bringing his wife and baby into the conversation, and his response is to end the conversation pretty abruptly and not bother carrying it on. When he issues a final response that is impossible for her to respond to, she double-taps to give it a like instead, as evidence that she's read and acknowledged his message to her.

OP is not close enough to this man to have his number and message him directly (which would be an indicator that they are actually friends), nor to have ever got to know his wife directly (online) either.

Just because OP's partner knows about this, and just because OP herself is well aware that this man is engaged and has a baby, that doesn't mean that this is an appropriate relationship to have. As many people have said here, messaging somebody "congrats on your baby, hope your wife is well" on the surface of it doesn't look wrong. But it's the level of energy and time she's invested into staying in touch with an internet stranger, the fact that she's told him deep, personal secrets about her life, and years on carries on messaging him, the pleasure she gets from both giving somebody attention and receiving it in return when she gets a response.

As I said, the fact that she went to such pains to insist that this wasn't a flirty conversation implies that it could very much lead that way if both parties wanted it to; moreover, the fact that she's uncomfortable/posted on Mumsnet for advice because the wife found out they were in touch and followed her online also indicates a level of discomfort with somebody finding out about this relationship.

I hope this clarifies why I think it's an odd and weird 'platonic' relationship that I think should be stopped now. There is no reason for OP to still be so invested in an old online flame.

sunflowersandbuttercups · 01/03/2021 14:47

Wow! I think you're massively overthinking this Grin

ColdBrightClearMorning · 01/03/2021 15:02

@sunflowersandbuttercups

As an aside, why are you so involved in this stranger's life? I'd understand this weird social media relationship you both have if you had met in person, were long-term friends, had known each other in real life for years prior - but this is an internet 'friend' that you've never met in real life (presumably, never even spoken on the phone to)

What are you talking about? Having internet friends is perfectly normal.

I'm 32 now and I'm still friends with people I met on the internet in my teens! Some of those friendships are 16 years old now and stronger than many "real life" friendships. We've spoken on the phone, via FaceTime and Zoom and we message online as well.

Those people aren't strangers to me - it's a bit odd to suggest you have to know someone in person for them to count as a friend!

It’s so strange isn’t it? It must be a generational thing. I’m in my thirties and it’s very very normal to have friends you’ve made online. Yeah, some of them you manage to meet up with, others you either likely won’t or haven’t had the chance to yet. It’s really not a strange thing Confused

It’s really sad to decide you’re only allowing yourself to become friends with people in your geographic area imo. I have friends in Germany, Mexico, other areas of the U.K., Trinidad and Tobago, some I’ve met and others I haven’t but would jump at the chance to.

Fair enough if someone doesn’t like the idea of that but it’s really odd to suggest there’s something wrong with it.

Scarlettpixie · 02/03/2021 06:54

@namechanged03

Okay as a girl who's had insecurities with a cheating partner before, I accepted her.

She asked how I knew him, I told the truth and also told her we'd never ever met and just made some sort of friendship online.

She was very nice, no abuse, thanked me for putting her mind at rest and told me she is in very early pregnancy again and her mind/hormones were doing overtime and she was sorry for bothering me.

Left it on a take care note and that was that.

Glad I accepted her now, glad that's over with!

Nice result OP.

I don’t think there is anything weird these days about internet friendships. I have friends who I met through a mum forum when pregnant 14 years ago and we still communicate regularly by facebook or messenger. After all this time, they are real friends even thoigh we haven’t met in person.

peak2021 · 02/03/2021 07:04

It may be that the fiancee has had a bad relationship previously, say with a man who turned out to be a cheater, and so is suspicious of any woman who talks/emails/contacts her fiancee. So whilst I think the motive may be reasonable, no need to accept the request.

Chocaholic9 · 02/03/2021 07:56

[quote namechanged03]@Yellowfish2020 see this is my worry, if I can put her mind at rest then I'd like to.

I have no issues going no contact with him if his fiancée isn't happy with it, of course. I'd never want to cause unhappiness in somebody's relationship.[/quote]
People who are that insecure don't believe the reassurance when it comes. Not your problem. I'd ignore the request.

PukkaBooks · 02/03/2021 08:15

He's probably made your Mac and cheese recipe and it's been better than hers n she's fumin.

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