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Biden's not a dog's dinner: Champ, Major (and Snowflake) know a President when they sniff one (Trump thread #126)

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TheNorthWestPawsage · 22/02/2021 09:02

Thread title inspired by minou123 Smile

Previous thread:
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TheNorthWestPawsage · 22/03/2021 22:28

Georgia - more struggles to come.

Jody Hice tried to overturn the 2020 election. Now he wants to be in charge of Georgia’s elections.
www.vox.com/2021/3/22/22345029/jody-hice-2020-election-donald-trump-georgia-secretary-of-state-brad-raffensperger

“Free and fair elections are the foundations of our country,” Hice said in a statement he released less than three months after he attempted to toss out the result of a free and fair election in his home state of Georgia. Hice also promised to “aggressively” pursue “those who commit voter fraud.”
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If Hice had been Georgia’s secretary of state in 2020, he could have triggered a crisis. Days before the January 6 putsch at the Capitol, Trump called incumbent Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger and urged him to “find 11,780 votes” for Trump — Biden won Georgia by 11,779 votes.

But Raffensperger refused, and a recording of that call was leaked to the Washington Post. An Atlanta prosecutor is currently investigating “attempts to influence the administration of the 2020 Georgia General Election,” and Trump could eventually face criminal charges.

Hice’s statement announcing his bid to take Raffensperger’s job makes it clear that Hice views Raffensperger’s decision to honor the results of the 2020 election as unacceptable. “What Brad Raffensperger did was create cracks in the integrity of our elections,” Hice claims.

Trump endorsed Hice shortly after the congressman announced his candidacy.

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DuncinToffee · 22/03/2021 22:36

www.buzzfeednews.com/amphtml/zoetillman/capitol-police-brian-sicknick-death-george-tanios-jailed

One Of The Men Charged With Assaulting Capitol Police Officer Brian Sicknick Will Stay In Jail
The case hasn’t revealed concrete information so far about how Sicknick died.

lionheart · 23/03/2021 01:09

Boulder, Colorado.

Roussette · 23/03/2021 07:59

So Sidney Powell's defence is... no sane person would have believed what I said. I hope she loses her case based on that.

What about libel?

As for Boulder, Colorado... shocking... 😥

lionheart · 23/03/2021 08:53

That is a really feeble defence.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 23/03/2021 12:44

@Roussette

So Sidney Powell's defence is... no sane person would have believed what I said. I hope she loses her case based on that. What about libel?

As for Boulder, Colorado... shocking... 😥

Someone who says "Anyone who believed what I said is insane" really fills you with confidence in their probity.
AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 23/03/2021 12:47

But I'm afraid gun massacres in America carried out by people who don't brain very well no longer shock me. They make me sad and angry, but they are not a surprise.

AcrossthePond55 · 23/03/2021 14:06

@AskingQuestionsAllTheTime

But I'm afraid gun massacres in America carried out by people who don't brain very well no longer shock me. They make me sad and angry, but they are not a surprise.
I agree. And it shocks me that I'm not shocked, or even surprised. Saddened and upset, of course. But not shocked or surprised.

We need massive funding for mental health services and stricter gun control laws. And unfortunately with so much of the prevailing attitude towards mental illness AND our 'gun culture' neither is very likely to happen.

I'm not saying that all people with MH conditions would do something like this, far from it. It's just that if MH services were more affordable and more widely available perhaps some of the perpetrators might have gotten early intervention to help them deal with whatever trauma or influences that made them think that such an action is a viable choice.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 23/03/2021 14:40

And the NRA greets every new instance of mindless slaughter of innocents with defences of everyone's right to carry a lethal weapon for which they have no particular use other than to kill people.

I do wish that organisation would finally go spectacularly bankrupt.

DuncinToffee · 23/03/2021 15:29

The NRA, blood on their hands
A Colorado judge blocked Boulder from enforcing its 2-year-old assault rifle ban on March 12 after the NRA sued. A week later, a gunman with an “AR-15 style rifle” opened fire in a Boulder supermarket, killing 10 people, including a Boulder Police officer.

news.yahoo.com/nra-bragged-blocking-boulder-ar-040000858.html

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 23/03/2021 16:05

"A Colorado judge gave law-abiding gun owners something to celebrate," they gloated when they succeeded last week in preventing the AR-15 rifle from having some curbs on its ownership.

And of course gave law-breaking gun owners something to celebrate as well. Or is it lawful to shoot random people who have gone shopping, in the eyes of the NRA?

DGRossetti · 23/03/2021 16:38

No point getting all weepy about mass shootings in the US. They're hardly new, and they've had plenty of chances to put their money where their mouth is if it really mattered.

AcrossthePond55 · 23/03/2021 17:17

Or is it lawful to shoot random people who have gone shopping, in the eyes of the NRA?

No, it's not lawful but in the NRA's book we should ALL be armed to the teeth whenever we leave the house so we can 'protect ourselves'. The first thing out of their mouths is usually "Well if someone else had had a gun in it wouldn't have happened/fewer people would have died".

Yeah, just what we need in a potential or real mass shooting, a bunch of would be Rambos firing willy nilly at anyone else with a gun. Not to mention the fact that LEOs arriving at the scene would have no idea who the 'real' danger was so would be hampered in shutting down the situation.

Fuck the NRA!

Anniegetyourgun · 23/03/2021 18:22

Do you reckon that police officer who was shot when he went to investigate the incident had a gun? Because I think it's quite likely that he might have.

Of course in the movies the good guy is always faster on the draw.

Anniegetyourgun · 23/03/2021 18:23

“What Brad Raffensperger did was create cracks in the integrity of our elections,” Hice claims.

Mr Hice's definition of "integrity" may not be entirely the same as yours or mine.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 23/03/2021 18:50

@AcrossthePond55

Or is it lawful to shoot random people who have gone shopping, in the eyes of the NRA?

No, it's not lawful but in the NRA's book we should ALL be armed to the teeth whenever we leave the house so we can 'protect ourselves'. The first thing out of their mouths is usually "Well if someone else had had a gun in it wouldn't have happened/fewer people would have died".

Yeah, just what we need in a potential or real mass shooting, a bunch of would be Rambos firing willy nilly at anyone else with a gun. Not to mention the fact that LEOs arriving at the scene would have no idea who the 'real' danger was so would be hampered in shutting down the situation.

Fuck the NRA!

The first LEO on the scene in Boulder was shot dead as he arrived. How do the NRA talk round that? See also the armed security guard at the school shooting who didn't actually draw his gun: I don't remember them explaining how having an armed guard on the premises had helped during the massacre at Marjory Stoneman Douglas high school that left 17 people dead.
DuncinToffee · 23/03/2021 20:36

The flag at the White House was just lowered to honor the victims in the Boulder shooting. It was raised last night following the Atlanta killings, up for less than 24 hours.

lionheart · 23/03/2021 21:12

24 hours. Sad

lionheart · 23/03/2021 21:14

Steve Bannon and Wellness don't exactly go together.

www.motherjones.com/politics/2021/03/steve-bannon-wellness-warrior/?utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=naytev&utm_medium=social

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 23/03/2021 22:04

I am a Nasty Person to hope that all Bannon's customers get Vitamin D toxicity because of the huge amounts he is suggesting they should consume.

AcrossthePond55 · 23/03/2021 22:06

@AskingQuestionsAllTheTime

The first LEO on the scene in Boulder was shot dead as he arrived. How do the NRA talk round that?

They say (with fake sympathy and gravitas) "Oh, please, now is not the time to talk about guns. People are grieving." Angry

lionheart · 24/03/2021 11:27

DeVos:

www.axios.com/devos-made-225-million-trump-cabinet-watchdog-458dbd3f-80c1-437f-8b2c-700430d574c3.html?utm_campaign=organic&utm_medium=socialshare&utm_source=twitter

'Former Secretary of Education Betsy DeVos reported earning at least $225 million in outside income during her tenure in the Trump administration, according a report by the watchdog Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington.'

Lweji · 24/03/2021 11:39

The first LEO on the scene in Boulder was shot dead as he arrived. How do the NRA talk round that?

Probably as incompetent, or on a previous occasion coward if he ha not gone in? Sad

Best to charge those not taking action than to regulate guns, of course.
www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/06/09/scot-peterson-charged-parkland-shooting-experts-worry-about-criminalizing-cowardice/

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 24/03/2021 11:42

"DeVos' family owns the marketing firm Amway"

A pyramid scheme. Doesn't surprise me, though I hadn't previously made the connection.

As Harvard Business School put it: "Amway founders Van Andel and DeVos accomplished their success through the use of an elaborate pyramid-like distribution system in which independent distributors of Amway products received a percentage of the merchandise they sold and also a percentage of the merchandise sold by recruited distributors".