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Bill Gates

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Teewithmo · 19/02/2021 23:00

Not a conspiracy thing..just what are your thoughts on him? So much flying around about farm land, vaccines etc etc
What’s up with Bill gates?

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Theluggage15 · 20/02/2021 18:17

He’s a hypocrite. Preaches about climate change and spends a fortune on private jets and has even recently bought a private jet company. He says he makes up for that by offsetting, a completely nonsense gesture He isn’t prepared to make any personal sacrifices but expects others to.
He gives some money away but barely makes a pinprick in his wealth. He has become many times richer during the pandemic but some people love to believe he’s just a benign individual not an extremely powerful but unelected person.

adventurealice · 20/02/2021 18:18

I actually find him a bit sexy

Cripesalive · 20/02/2021 18:22

@Nearlythere1 if his motive was money why did he bother giving $50 billion to charity? Surely it would have been easier just to keep his original fortune, rather than give it away and try to recoup the funds by manipulating us via vaccine?

And I think you’ll find the flu vaccine works in a similar way, so no not unheard of

TravellingTilbury · 20/02/2021 18:45

Agree Nearlythere. Money and control. One person/organisation shouldn't have so much control/influence imo.

I'm glad the farmland acquisition has been noticed - see also the Canadian railway.

Through purchasing and investments, Gates has a lot of control over land, food, agrculture - incl genetically modified/Monsanto - infrastructure, tech, health ... under the umbrella of a soft sounding charitable foundation... which just happens to make him richer so he can make more investments, purchase more and gain more control etc ...

www.suredividend.com/bill-gates-portfolio/
www.theguardian.com/global-development/poverty-matters/2010/sep/29/gates-foundation-gm-monsanto
www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/sociopol_win-micro-gates17.htm

Oh and he was a friend of Epstein and is a regular on the flight logs (see declass files).

I'm sure he doesn't care what I think though!

Mind you the feud between Musk and Gates tickles me - I'm sure Musk once called him a "knucklehead".

TravellingTilbury · 20/02/2021 18:55

Think about it, if a 'charity' give such large donations to businesses or organisations or governments - do you think that it won't expect some influence or reward in return? Just search the web (eg duckduckgo, not google) for examples of investigations into the Foundation. It's not a soft harmless charity.

www.independent.co.uk/news/world/politics/gates-foundation-accused-dangerously-skewing-aid-priorities-promoting-big-business-a6822036.html

Bill Gates, the report claims, “who has regular access to world leaders and is in effect personally bankrolling hundreds of universities, international organisations, NGOs and media outlets, has become the single most influential voice in international development.”

unitynewsnetwork.co.uk/revealed-bbc-charity-receives-millions-in-funding-from-gates-foundation/
www.bbc.co.uk/mediaaction/about/funding
philanthropynewsdigest.org/news/gates-foundation-awards-20-million-to-bbc-world-service-trust

TravellingTilbury · 20/02/2021 18:56

Money and control.

tttigress · 20/02/2021 18:59

I think he is a hypocrite.

derxa · 20/02/2021 19:01

He can stuff his lab grown meat up his arse.

TravellingTilbury · 20/02/2021 19:03

List of grants awarded by the foundation:

www.gatesfoundation.org/How-We-Work/Quick-Links/Grants-Database#

If an organisation receives millions from the B&MGF, don't you see how reliant that makes such an organisation on receiving future grants from the B&MGF? A big donor ALWAYS has influence whether overt or not.

Mif4 · 20/02/2021 21:37

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bloomingroses · 20/02/2021 22:00

Russell Brand has strong opinions on him. Just seen a video that popped up with RB talking about BG, the Great Reset and Indian farmers. All apparently connected.Confused

JamieFrasersAuntie · 20/02/2021 22:48

It's worrying he has so much influence. He makes massive donations to the Who, the uk medicine board and the BBC.

There's tons of articles about his zany ideas about health passports, 3D meat on the world economic forum.

CoalTit · 21/02/2021 09:02

He's fairly open about his version of philanthropy being extremely profitable for him. He's got much richer since he started supposedly giving away his wealth, i.e: making huge investments in the health-care technology and media sectors.

"Investing in global health organizations aimed at increasing access to vaccines created a 20-to-1 return in economic benefit, billionaire Microsoft co-founder and philanthropist Bill Gates told CNBC ..."

www.cnbc.com/2019/01/23/bill-gates-turns-10-billion-into-200-billion-worth-of-economic-benefit.html

As for being an idiot if you believe the stuff about him being a genius and a philanthropist, it's easy to be influenced by such intense, sustained, professional myth-making.
I'm old enough to remember how sly and stupid he seemed when called as a witness in the anti-trust case against Microsoft, but 20 years of hearing him called a philanthropist and a genius in the mainstream media had affected my view of him, as had the Ayn-Randian nonsense about him being self-made.

TravellingTilbury · 21/02/2021 09:16

www.influencewatch.org/non-profit/bill-and-melinda-gates-foundation-trust/
www.influencewatch.org/non-profit/bill-and-melinda-gates-foundation/
"Contributions are held in an endowment, which must give away at least five percent of its worth each year. The other 95 percent is invested. [20] From 2000 to 2007, the endowment was managed by Bill Gates Investments, which handles Gates’ personal fortune.

In 2006, investor Warren Buffett made a lifetime pledge to the foundation of Berkshire Hathaway stock valued at $31 billion. [21] The gift is paid in yearly installments with most recent contribution of $3.6 billion on July 1, 2019. [22] To date, Buffett has contributed $24.5 billion to the BMGF.

Foundations are not permitted by tax law to contribute to candidates for election. However, the Center For Responsive Politics lists contributions from individuals who list the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation as their employer: Those contributions total $1,006,305 to political candidates and political action committees (PACs) since 2000. Of those contributions, 88 percent, or $106,212, were made to Democratic candidates and committees.

Some have criticized the Gates Foundation by pointing to the fact there are three trustees deciding how billions of dollars controlled by the world’s largest philanthropic foundation are spent. Pablo Eisenberg of Georgetown University’s Public Policy Institute told NBC News, “That is much too small and narrow a board to run a foundation whose combined assets will one day exceed the budgets of all but 30 percent of the countries in the world,” which he said “offers little protection to America’s taxpayers or the national interest.”

The Gates Foundation has been criticized for too-broad funding through an interconnected network of organizations and individuals across academia and the NGO and business sectors which University College London Dr. David McCoy said in 2012, “allows it to leverage influence through a kind of ‘group-think’ in international health.” And in 2008 the head of malaria research for the World Health Organization accused a s-called Gates Foundation “cartel” of suppressing diversity of scientific opinion, claiming the organization was “accountable to no-one other than itself.” "

In summary: too much control and influence with too few checks and too little accountability.

TravellingTilbury · 22/02/2021 02:21

Bill Gates, the climate hypocrite. 'It's OK When Bill Does It":

Sapho47 · 22/02/2021 02:59

@Nearlythere1

If they're the way out of this mess why arent we out of it yet? Why are they talking social distancing and masks for years to come? The "new normal"? This by the way being a range of vaccines that offer no immunity, do not prevent you from passing it on, only lessen symptoms apparently. Not like any vaccine I ever heard of. And given that they offer no immunity, then i fully expect them not to be the way out. Im not speaking crap, just the truth. Gates is involved in the vaccines. You've picked up on one word of my original post - "his" vaccine - to try and discredit the whole thing. Oldest trick in the book and frankly a pathetic form of argumentation.
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seashells11 · 22/02/2021 11:13

I think we shouldn't be naive about Bill Gates. Its all very concerning.

MissConductUS · 22/02/2021 11:21

He's a lizard person brilliant guy who is doing a lot of good in the world through his charitable foundation, which is a model of effective philanthropy.

In summary: too much control and influence with too few checks and too little accountability.

It's his bloody money. He can give it away as he wishes. If he kept it all for himself he'd avoid all of the sniping and no one would be trying to rubbish him.

bloomingroses · 22/02/2021 11:35

@MissConductUS

He's a lizard person brilliant guy who is doing a lot of good in the world through his charitable foundation, which is a model of effective philanthropy.

In summary: too much control and influence with too few checks and too little accountability.

It's his bloody money. He can give it away as he wishes. If he kept it all for himself he'd avoid all of the sniping and no one would be trying to rubbish him.

He shouldn’t be influencing governments for his own agenda. That’s all our business surely.
TravellingTilbury · 22/02/2021 12:43

Completely misses the point to say 'it's his bloody money' - if he uses the money to influence, buy, or control then it affects other people. It's not just companies that can become monopolies. But love the fact that although most people get it, some people are still sticking up for poor, old, generous, misunderstood Bill lol.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 22/02/2021 12:50

Given the amount of money given to farmers across Africs I would assume that Gates Ag One is doing much the same for farmers in America! Its mission is to help 'smallholder farmers adapt to climate change and make food production in low- and middle-income countries more productive, resilient, and sustainable.'

It's not cncerning now, whilst he is alive but the Trust would have to have some serious safeguards built in to protect people after he and Melinda die!

Nanny0gg · 22/02/2021 12:52

[quote Teewithmo]@Bainne No not that. I’m asking what people think of him generally? He seems to have a lot of haters recently but was revered pretty much until recently?[/quote]
He's done a lot of good with his vaccination programme

Ponoka7 · 22/02/2021 13:03

@Mif4, have you got a link to that? Every time I search BG and India fact check says it's false news.

We need to cut down on our meat consumption and lab grown meat is a good alternative.

TravellingTilbury · 22/02/2021 13:05

Lab grown meat is a good alternative - really, really?!

I think you've swallowed too much propoganda with your lab grown meat.

lljkk · 22/02/2021 13:06

If any of you lot has his money...

How would you spend it in a way that didn't attract huge buckets of criticism, including accusations of meglomania?