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Bill Gates

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Teewithmo · 19/02/2021 23:00

Not a conspiracy thing..just what are your thoughts on him? So much flying around about farm land, vaccines etc etc
What’s up with Bill gates?

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DumplingsAndStew · 20/02/2021 10:03

@OldRailer

It's interesting to Google what silicon valley moguls allow their kids by way of online access/ social media.

This might give a clue as to how likely they are to be reading inline comments themselves.

If I had the means and the money to entertain my children tech-free outwith their education, I'd be more inclined to do so too.
OldRailer · 20/02/2021 10:10

This was from a few years back and covered the early years education they choose too.

No tech.

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Xerochrysum · 20/02/2021 10:43

Bill Gates is an amazing human being who funds Khan Academy for better education for anyone in the world.

Macncheeseballs · 20/02/2021 10:47

Surely most have the means and the money to entertain kids tech free

TotorosFurryBehind · 20/02/2021 10:49

He's an awesome human being, watch the Netflix documentary about his work to eradicate polio in the developing world.

Woeismethischristmas · 20/02/2021 10:58

I heard him on the Trevor Noah show and he did say that he buys plant based fuels for his private jets and offsets his carbon emissions costing him 7million dollars a year. 700 million dollars a year on carbon reducing measures through his foundation.

A point he made was that it’s the rich who should be embracing and paying for environmental saving measures thereby reducing the green premium and making new technologies more accessible.

I think he is doing a lot of good with his massive piles of money.

DumplingsAndStew · 20/02/2021 11:24

@Macncheeseballs

Surely most have the means and the money to entertain kids tech free
Possibly. Probably. But 'most' isn't everyone, is it?
CaveMum · 20/02/2021 11:27

There’s a 3-part Netflix documentary about him that we watched recently. Have a look, it talks about his parents being philanthropists and community minded and hat they instilled the same values in their children.

Macncheeseballs · 20/02/2021 11:31

Dumplings - what I mean is that entertaining kids tech free is not just the preserve of the super rich

Loopyloututu · 20/02/2021 11:33

I don’t know much about him but Dh (who usually hates everyone) seems to think Bill Gates is a good guy - he likes the fact he’s left nothing to his kids in his will apparently to encourage them to make their own way (I think they are supposed to have attended ‘normal’ schools) and also seems to “not give a shit” ie very comfortable within himself unlike say, Jeff Bazos or Elon Musk who look like men having a midlife crisis (all dumping their wives for a younger model and dying their hair/wearing leather jackets).

OldRailer · 20/02/2021 11:55

Yes my DH says I hate everyone.

Now I've never met Bill but on what bits I've seen of them I like him and his wife.

(I don't even like David Attenborough any more. There I have confessed.)

SchrodingersImmigrant · 20/02/2021 11:59

[quote Teewithmo]@SchrodingersImmigrant 🤣With me, he’d be like ‘Does she ever do anything?’[/quote]
😂 My DH actually came home and said he know someone who really believes that chip thing🤦 Lucky stupid isn't infectious!

DumplingsAndStew · 20/02/2021 12:00

@Macncheeseballs

Dumplings - what I mean is that entertaining kids tech free is not just the preserve of the super rich
I know that, but we were talking about the 'super rich', and I'm sure money probably helps!
Nearlythere1 · 20/02/2021 12:10

He has been quietly buying up farmland in the US while developing a fake meat company then last week told us we all need to start eating artificial meat.

He owns genetically modified seed companies that poor farmers are forced to lease from in on the microsoft model.

He told us we need to stop using concrete to save the planet, and stop driving and flying.

He sat on BBC news last year and told us we all have to take his vaccine if we want to get out of the pandemic.

He's unelected and completely unaccountable and should have no say in what the nations of the world do.

He preaches climate change but does not live by his own directives. Look at the size of his lakeside house and tell me that's eco friendly. He lives on private jets.

Frankly the people who think his motives are philanthropic are idiots. His motives are money. How nefarious his motives go beyond that, I dont know, but frankly I regard any ultra rich elite with their sticky hand in so many of the world's crucial resources as suspicious.

OldRailer · 20/02/2021 12:15

The fake meat I'm all against tbh.
Vegetables are fine.
If you've lived in the west of Britain pasture makes sense.

FOJN · 20/02/2021 12:41

He's unelected and completely unaccountable and should have no say in what the nations of the world do.

This is my concern and he's not the only billionaire influencing things on a global scale. He could make no strings attached to any number of organisations but he does seem to want to have a say. Documents relating to his donations to WHO about potential conflicts of interest simply state they are numerous, no detail given and no further questions asked, are people OK with that?

DumplingsAndStew · 20/02/2021 12:41

@Nearlythere1

we all have to take his vaccine

Lost me there. It's not his vaccine. And the vaccines are pretty damn important to get out of this.

Nearlythere1 · 20/02/2021 13:56

[quote DumplingsAndStew]@Nearlythere1

we all have to take his vaccine

Lost me there. It's not his vaccine. And the vaccines are pretty damn important to get out of this.[/quote]
Go back and listen to his BBC interview at the start of all this where he dictated that the only way out was the vaccine. Then go and look at his financial backing of the moderna vaccine, the oxford vaccine, Proctor and Gamble, and Pfizer. Then come back and tell me how i "lost you" because you couldnt be bothered to do a quick google search.

DumplingsAndStew · 20/02/2021 14:30

It's not that I couldn't be 'bothered' to Google search - it's that I think you are speaking crap. No matter how much he has financially supported the vaccine programme, it is NOT his vaccine. And the vaccines are thought to be the way out of this mess.

Nearlythere1 · 20/02/2021 16:16

If they're the way out of this mess why arent we out of it yet? Why are they talking social distancing and masks for years to come? The "new normal"? This by the way being a range of vaccines that offer no immunity, do not prevent you from passing it on, only lessen symptoms apparently. Not like any vaccine I ever heard of. And given that they offer no immunity, then i fully expect them not to be the way out. Im not speaking crap, just the truth. Gates is involved in the vaccines. You've picked up on one word of my original post - "his" vaccine - to try and discredit the whole thing. Oldest trick in the book and frankly a pathetic form of argumentation.

Brinstar · 20/02/2021 16:20

Didn't take long for the anti-vaxxers to raise their ugly stupid heads.

DumplingsAndStew · 20/02/2021 17:33

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Lincslady53 · 20/02/2021 17:51

Have a read of the foundation's annual letter on the state if the world. www.gatesnotes.com/2021-Annual-Letter

yeOldeTrout · 20/02/2021 17:58

BG is very driven, quite clever, focused, clever, capitalist.
He can be blinkered and bossy.
But he's not deluded like a lot of famous people. He is not a scientologist someone who thinks he was born super special from birth or by divine will.
Like all successful driven rich people he has a robust ego; he's learned confidence from his failures & from his successes. He's had to make hard decisions & fend off piles of criticism.
He is willing to take risks -- like all successful entrepreneurs.

He was raised by parents who were mildly socially active so internalised at a young age that people have a duty to make the world a better place if they can, and duty to have compassion for others with harder starts in life. He fully appreciates the privileges his wealth brings him.

His wife is lovely & warm & brought out his human side enormously.
He's a good dad (not perfect).
He comes across as a bit Aspy. I admire his resilience a lot.

CaveMum · 20/02/2021 18:08

The Netflix documentary is called “Inside Bill’s Brain: Decoding Bill Gates”. It’s in three parts, each about an hour long.

It’s very interesting, he was very close to his parents, bar a few rebellious moments, and suffered tragedy young when his best friend at school, Kent Barnes, was killed in a climbing accident.