Why do mums put those large beaded necklaces...

[TheFancyPants]

..around their babies necks? Surely its not safe? Why are they fashionable?

@LookingForSalt

As I said upthread (but didn't get a response - your prerogative and nobody owes a response but I'm repeating it in response to your latest post) don't you think that letting a baby sleep in a necklace is a particularly risky risk when it comes to suffocation?

Suffocation by a bead, are you serious?

So much hysteria in here. I'll never understand why some people get their knickers in a twist about other people's parenting choices. Especially those who call others "idiots" all the while claiming to be in possession of superior knowledge and behaviour. The inability to be civil is very telling of the lack of intelligence and knowledge.

There has been no hysteria. People have stated facts and backed them up with links to journals/articles with evidence proving the risks/woo.

I don't think I have been uncivil at all. I also don't think I have superior knowledge but what I do have is a science degree, a Masters, and years of working as a research scientist for a pharmaceutical company (including working on analgesics and anaesthetics). So maybe some of us actually do know a bit more, and some have done proper research.

I always get my 'knickers in a twist' about bad science because I'm, you know, a scientist.

Totally agree @HollyGoLoudly1

And I shared the FDA warning re suffocation, choking and strangulation but @LookingForSalt didn't respond despite earlier calling those concerns 'hysteria'. Someone else also shared a peer reviewed paper that is public.

It would be 'civil' for that poster to respond at some point with thoughts on both of those fact based, not emotive pieces of evidence re the risks.

@countbackfromten

Oh and another - amber necklaces are bollocks and potentially dangerous. From an anaesthetist with two science degrees who uses different anaesthetic drugs every single working day.

Awesome user name! I absolutely agree with you. I work for a company that helps Pharma companies file for approval to the FDA and other Reg Authorities. The amount of testing and paperwork needed to get approval for any device (which is what these beads would be if they had any effect whatsoever) is enormous. Even medical cannabis has to go through this process. They don’t need approval because they might as well be made from coal as I said earlier. However, as long as they don’t present a choking hazard and aren’t used instead of something that actually works then I wouldn’t judge.

@youvegottenminuteslynn

Totally agree *@HollyGoLoudly1*

And I shared the FDA warning re suffocation, choking and strangulation but @LookingForSalt didn't respond despite earlier calling those concerns 'hysteria'. Someone else also shared a peer reviewed paper that is public.

It would be 'civil' for that poster to respond at some point with thoughts on both of those fact based, not emotive pieces of evidence re the risks.

Yeah, the FDA is well known for being hysterical

Haven't read whole thread but just looking at picture I'm screaming in my head " GET THAT THING OFF THAT BABY" When even cot bumpers and window blinds have had to be modified to stop children dying, how did this thing get past Health and Safety checks. Who cares if there is some magic woo woo, that thing could kill your baby!

how did this thing get past Health and Safety checks.

Unregulated. It's an item of jewellery being missold. It's not suitable for a child, it's not CE marked like every toy etc.

how did this thing get past Health and Safety checks

I might be wrong but I dont think they have to be safety checked. I've certainly never heard of them being tested any that were would fail.

The Venn diagram representing people who think that putting a choking-hazard necklace on their baby is safe and effective but that vaccines are the devils work is practically a circle

Do adults wear them? When wisdom teeth coming through

@SqeakyHindge

Do adults wear them? When wisdom teeth coming through

No of course they don't, funny isn't it. It's very telling that so many sing their praises and yet these very same adults would never consider reaching for an amber necklace, bracelet or anklet if they ever had toothache or were cutting their wisdom teeth.

They of course would rather sensibly go and buy themselves some actual pain medication to treat their pain, but somehow a bit of amber is perfectly sufficient for their child.

Please can people just not buy these - as I said upthread, most of them on sale are FAKE and made to look like amber and you have no idea what your baby is putting in their mouth or on their skin.

Real amber is expensive. If you have any of these beads you can check if it's real amber by shining a UV light on it, if it fluoresces blue it's real - if it doesn't, then it's not and is therefore made of god only knows what.

Not to mention the sheer craziness that is putting a strangulation/choking hazard like a beaded necklace/bracelet on a baby.

I'm from the Baltics and amber is everywhere, not massively expensive either. Used for jewellery for thousands of years. But I have never heard this being used in traditional medicine for pain relief. If it really had such an effect, surely we would have noticed?

@B33Fr33

Because they are woo and believe that a chemical contained in Amber (ridiculously high melting point) will magically transmit itself into their child's blood stream.

They will also tell you that since wearing it their child has potty trained at 6 months, never talks back and is already reading.

But hey. I've got magic cream to sell them.

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@Same4Walls. That made me laugh as just imagined me trying to hand over necklace or anklet to daughter who had on off pain for over a year with one of wisdom tooth.

Dentist has never suggested amber beads nor sell them, don’t know if any dental practices do.

They was great explaining to younger child about teeth - bone having to push through hard gum.

@Fuckadoodledoooo

I don't see how they could possibly work.

Because.

Shockingly.

They don't.

Give the kid paracetamol. Poor mites.

[quote SqeakyHindge]@Same4Walls. That made me laugh as just imagined me trying to hand over necklace or anklet to daughter who had on off pain for over a year with one of wisdom tooth.

Dentist has never suggested amber beads nor sell them, don’t know if any dental practices do.

They was great explaining to younger child about teeth - bone having to push through hard gum.[/quote]
I'm glad to make you laugh and I'm sorry your daughter is still in pain with her wisdom teeth, they really are a bitch.

You know I honestly wouldn't be so judgemental about them if it were an adult wearing it. At least they would be aware of the suffocation and choking risks in a way a small infant could never comprehend.

They’re not necklaces. They’re dummy clips which stop them from falling on the floor and picking up germs. Mums can wear them or attach to baby's clothing obviously not when sleeping and they must be safe because reputable brands like Jojo Maman Bebe stock them :)

Give the kid paracetamol. Poor mites.

My second child really struggled teething. Bright red bulging gums, red cheeks, biting anything and screaming.

My HV recoiled in horror when I said I gave her calpol on bad days.

"But you must try everything else first!" Was her reaction.

Sorry but fuck that. I have an impacted wisdom tooth that plays up once a year. So I know the pain of a tooth trying to cut through a swollen gum.

I wouldn't stick homeopathic powder on it. I take painkillers. I do the same for my babies, I won't leave them in pain when a bit of paracetamol can provide relief.

@Hmm1234

They’re not necklaces. They’re dummy clips which stop them from falling on the floor and picking up germs. Mums can wear them or attach to baby's clothing obviously not when sleeping and they must be safe because reputable brands like Jojo Maman Bebe stock them :)

Dummy clips? Why would you put a dummy clip round a child's neck?

Also just because a shop sells an item doesn't mean it's safe, shops sell cot bumpers and socket covers...

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Stupid is as stupid does. The whole Amber teething necklace thing makes absolutely ZERO sense.

They’re not necklaces. They’re dummy clips which stop them from falling on the floor and picking up germs. Mums can wear them or attach to baby's clothing obviously not when sleeping and they must be safe because reputable brands like Jojo Maman Bebe stock them

What planet are you on?

Amber necklaces and dummy clips are two completely different things.

Perhaps do a bit of googling before you bring your expert knowledge and inform everyone they’re discussing a different product to the one they all think they’re talking about...

Possibly irrelevant but I just want to add that they’re not new! My gran has baby photos where she’s wearing an amber necklace, precisely because it was supposed to help with teething.

Oh is that what they are for! Does the baby sleep with it round his or her neck? But what if it is uncomfortable or gets caught on something? I'm way way too risk averse for this magic nonsense.

Never understood it - wince everytime I see it but keep my opinions to myself because I’d start Ww3 if I spoke to every mum I thought was an ignorant idiot

@Skatastic

Oh is that what they are for! Does the baby sleep with it round his or her neck? But what if it is uncomfortable or gets caught on something? I'm way way too risk averse for this magic nonsense.

Well I honestly didn't think anyone would be careless enough to risk it but apparently some people do indeed allow their babies and toddlers to sleep in them.