It’s GIVEN not GIFTED FFS !!!

[TriflePudding]

Oh god it’s all over Facebook and it’s driving me crazy - “I have here to gift ...a tatty old sofa I can’t be arsed to get rid of myself so I’m fobbing it off on someone else”
or “I have been gifted a bag of baby clothes but they are too small, does anyone know if anyone in need ?”
Or “looking to gift some donations to local women’s refuge/children’s hospital- who do I get in touch with ?”

JUST FUCK OFF !! Say “given” and while we are at it just donate stuff quietly without any fanfare !

YABU - it is perfectly acceptable to use “gifted” as a verb

Or

YANBU - the word “gifted” being used as a verb was invented by Beelzebub himself.

Please feel free to add your own !

"I was sat" - as if you'd been plonked down by someone else

If I ask you "Have you been to the shop?"

DO NOT answer with "I did".

It's "I have" or "I've been" or even just "Yes"

Aargh

2 of my bugbears are ‘it’s so fun!’ And also I find ‘curated’ a bit wanky

oh yes "so fun" - it used to be "such or so much fun" grr

someone i know is always saying "i went london" or "i went tesco". it drives me INSANE

i so agree re: gifted. it's a bloody given, literally.

GreenlandTheMovie - Except modern Icelandic I suppose?

Definitely including modern Icelandic.

@JohnMiddleNameRedactedSwanson^

OED does it for us. ‘Disinterested’ in the sense of ‘uninterested’ from early 17th C. In the sense of impartiality from mid 17th C.^

But compare with ‘disinterest’.

@user1483782091

2 of my bugbears are ‘it’s so fun!’ And also I find ‘curated’ a bit wanky

Yes! ‘So fun’ is a regular comment from very posh friends. It’s ‘so annoying’! 😂

@TatianaBis The discussion was regarding the adjective. The fact that the noun form has a slightly different history is interesting but not contradictory. There’s nothing further to debate here.

[quote JohnMiddleNameRedactedSwanson]@TatianaBis The discussion was regarding the adjective. The fact that the noun form has a slightly different history is interesting but not contradictory. There’s nothing further to debate here.[/quote]
Both are relevant and indeed related. The discussion has covered the noun and the adjective - in my post I used ‘disinterest’ not ‘disinterested’.

I’d be interested to see the whole of the French definition above to compare. (Not at home so no access to big OED).

@Goodbye2020Helllo2021

A former colleague used to write 'Kindly' in emails.

Can't think of an example now but it always seemed a bit passive aggressive or something, and I don't think that was how he meant it.

Yes, ‘kindly’ reads like a telling off coated in sugar.

I respond better to ‘We’.
‘We need to get this in by...’
‘We need to remember to...’

Yes, I used to think it sounded like something bank managers might have put in formal letters, long ago - 'Kindly lodge to your account'

Knock yourself out, @TatianaBis

Absolutely Charity!'Kindly lodge to your account' - ‘Kindly rectify the situation immediately’! *Kindly refrain from diving/jumping/petting in the swimming pool’ (I’m giving away my age... swimming pool posters!)

@Georgyporky

I wish there was a way to search a long thread like this, in case my question has already been answered.

But WTF does "woke" mean - as in "I am woke" ?

You can search the thread using the 'find' button on your browser?

Woke is the most irritating word ever and refers to a perceived 'new awareness' of issues - especially relating to social and racial injustice.

As in my eyes have been opened and I am suddenly able to see all this and am therefore 'awoken' - hence woke.

However it has become a bit of a parody of itself with people saying 'stay woke' in a sarcastic way to say 'stop navel gazing'. Or laughing at people who are super-woke (the super woke often go hand in hand with cancel culture). It's like the new PC but specifically related to social issues.

Started as a good thing but then, like everything, it went too far...

@JohnMiddleNameRedactedSwanson

Don’t worry about it but I was actually referring to what is listed above ‘disinteressement’ - probably ‘disinteresse’ from the French.

@JohnMiddleNameRedactedSwanson

So is the conclusion that I'm not wrong when I'm using "disinterested" to mean the same as uninterested?

Sorry @LouJ85, but yes.

Sorry - you are wrong and it is best avoided.

@Goodbye2020Helllo2021

Absolutely Charity!'Kindly lodge to your account' - ‘Kindly rectify the situation immediately’! *Kindly refrain from diving/jumping/petting in the swimming pool’ (I’m giving away my age... swimming pool posters!)

Yes, exactly!

I think he used it where he meant please, so was using it in a polite way but it just didn't come across that way, to me.

I find it mildly annoying that so many people 'rock up' to places.
I'm being very light hearted in saying that, btw.

Another one that some papers love to use about celebrities (in a pre covid era) 'such and such jetted here or there'. Couldn't they just fly there like the rest of us.

I don't rock up to places much but I do a lot of schlepping

Not quite the same, but DC has started saying “sad” “happy” “excited” etc in response to a reply she’s received to a question asked.
“Mum can I have a pony”
“No, definitely not”
“Sad”

Not “I am now sad” or “that makes me feel sad”, just “sad”. She doesn’t even look or sound sad when she says this. It’s driving me up the wall, but I can’t for the life of me explain why!

@TatianaBis

I don't rock up to places much but I do a lot of schlepping

@JohnMiddleNameRedactedSwanson

Sorry - you are wrong and it is best avoided.

Wow that's blown my mind.

I'm not sure that's widely known, as I write a lot of reports in my work and my colleagues and I use that term quite often professionally and none of us have ever corrected each other. We're all PhD or graduate level too. Bit embarrassing really! 🤣

What’s your field, though, @LouJ85? It’s widely known in e.g. the humanities, although I’d hope that a peer reviewer in any field would pick up on it.

The OED is careful to say that it is ‘widely considered to be incorrect’ and this is a good example of the fact that, like all lexicography, the OED is descriptive of the language as it is used rather than prescriptive of how it should be used. Fowler’s Modern English Usage and the various newspaper style guides are very useful if you want the latter. Here is grumpy old Fowler on ‘disinterested’.

...and as I’m back at my desk here’s the top half of the page for @TatianaBis