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It’s GIVEN not GIFTED FFS !!!

494 replies

TriflePudding · 15/02/2021 18:19

Oh god it’s all over Facebook and it’s driving me crazy - “I have here to gift ...a tatty old sofa I can’t be arsed to get rid of myself so I’m fobbing it off on someone else”
or “I have been gifted a bag of baby clothes but they are too small, does anyone know if anyone in need ?”
Or “looking to gift some donations to local women’s refuge/children’s hospital- who do I get in touch with ?”

JUST FUCK OFF !! Say “given” and while we are at it just donate stuff quietly without any fanfare !

YABU - it is perfectly acceptable to use “gifted” as a verb

Or

YANBU - the word “gifted” being used as a verb was invented by Beelzebub himself.

Please feel free to add your own !

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TrixieMixie · 16/02/2021 18:03

You have no idea how happy this thread has made me. Of course YANBU. I hate the misuse of 'gifted' as a verb. Would these fuck twats say 'He gifted me a gift?' It makes me want to gift them a kick up the backside. I thought I was the only one. I boycott shops which misuse it in their advertising.
Another I hate is 'sourced' as in 'I sourced these heritage carrots...' You didn't canoe up the Amazon to get them, you just paid too much for them in a pretentious shop!

TrixieMixie · 16/02/2021 18:06

PS, I know fuck twats is not good English.....but.. yes, I don't gift a fuck. Actually, one of the great virtues of the word 'fuck' is that, unlike gift, it can correctly, if profanely, be used as a noun, verb and adjective.

ladynyland · 16/02/2021 18:09

When people write or say somethink! It makes my heart race in rage. It’s SOMETHING !!!! SOMETHING !!! “Yeah I wanna somethink like that dress “

AND while I am on the subject .. fish n chips ! It’s FISH AND CHIPS !!

Harmonypuss · 16/02/2021 18:11

Aaaarrrggghhhhh!

Wrong words, wrong grammar, wrong spellings, wrong punctuation, need I go on? They all drive me crazy.

I read a post on one of the message boards somewhere (Mumsnet, Gransnet, can't remember which) a few days ago, where someone started a thread because they felt as though someone was being snotty with them by putting a full stop at the end of a text message.

In my opinion, if someone is going to spend their life moaning about the fact that someone else HAS used punctuation correctly, they need to get a life!

YouokHun · 16/02/2021 18:15

@Billandben444

Reached out - contacted/texted/called fhs!
@Billandben444 here is my favourite meme for you:
It’s GIVEN not GIFTED FFS !!!
beautifuldaytosavelives · 16/02/2021 18:15

I haven't RTFT but I love you. I hope someone has mentioned 'staycation' doesn't mean holidaying in the UK but actually not going anywhere at all.

GreenlandTheMovie · 16/02/2021 18:19

@Bluegrass

I always think “gotten” is an interesting one. Gets used in the US and Australia (other places as well I’m sure) and some people get very irate if you use it here saying it is an Americanism. But it was also used in the UK for a very long time before fading out. If it comes back again why on Earth should that be a bad thing? It’s all gotten a bit ridiculous if you ask me.
It is an interesting one, because "gotten" is a past tense, so to say "I've gotten something" meaning the present tense sounds clumsily wrong and more like a wrong grammatical usage imported from another language. A bit like "I'm chill" and "I'm tan", which has come from non-native English speakers on social media using nouns as adjectives.

But "got" sounds clumsy in English anyway because (and I'm only guessing) it has lost its prefix, as in "begot". A bit like how in Dutch and German, it would be used with suffixes for many of its tenses. I suspect "gotten" is ungrammatical and being a back-borrowing from American English doesn't cure that.

Theoldwrinkley · 16/02/2021 18:19

Someone after my own heart.
So nice to know I’m not the only one to have steam coming out, especially ‘medal’ as opposed ‘to win a medal’
Insidious BBC (the origin of all such devilry) started ‘’appeal’. Drives me potty, as in ‘appeal against’, surely?
Other thing which ‘makes my eyes itch’....love that expression....from Mumsnet, is the difference between ‘your’ and ‘you are’, and ‘their’ and ‘they are’. Some people who you think really should know better seem blind to this.

Tigs64 · 16/02/2021 18:20

The verb ‘to gift’ has been around for centuries so I’m not sure why it annoys you so much. If you are annoyed by people bragging about their generosity on social media, that is something else altogether.

GreenlandTheMovie · 16/02/2021 18:23

"Gift" though was originally synonomous with "give", a long time back in Old Norse. Which is why the word for "married" in Swedish is "gift", because it refers to giving someone's hand in marriage.

So if you're arguging in favour of the return of "gotten" then "gift" has just as strong a case, if not stronger, because it is at least being used grammatically correctly.

godmum56 · 16/02/2021 18:29

language changes. get over it.

RollWithThePunches · 16/02/2021 18:40

I’m enjoying this thread! Bad grammar is the devil’s work.

“Reach out” is my current toe curler. I just stop listening to anyone using it and start seething.

Perhaps a new thread, but incorrect pronunciation changes my happy face into one that resembles a bulldog licking the piss off a nettle. For example, contribute. Until recently we said con-trib-UTE. Now, everyone is pronouncing it CON-trib-ute. 😫 Unless you were born and raised in the USA, this is not acceptable!!

DoveOfPiss · 16/02/2021 18:44

I have three:

Disorientated/orientated is the correct term. IT IS NOT disoriented/ oriented. This gives me the absolute rage and just smacks of laziness. Or 'Americanisation'.

'Scapegoated' - just no. He was a scapegoat, he wasn't scapegoated Angry it is an adjective not a verb.

And 'specialty' used instead of 'speciality'. See 'Americanisation' above.

KirstenBlest · 16/02/2021 18:46

@DoveOfPiss, you missed out Normalcy (not RTFT)

Bluegrass · 16/02/2021 18:49

GreenlandTheMovie - I think gotten is past participle, you “got” something and you continue to have that thing. I guess it follows the same principle that “I forgot it” becomes “I’ve forgotten it”.

I will continue to wave the flag for “gifted” on the basis that not everything you are given is a gift (getting chickenpox certainly wasn’t!).

Once you accept that (which seems inarguable), you must also accept that “given” cannot therefore always provide exactly the right meaning - it requires in some instances that you clarify it with “as a gift”.

You can achieve that same result more economically (with fewer words) by substituting “given” with “gifted”. It is more concise and it conveys a more accurate meaning, therefore it is a good use of the English language.

Georgyporky · 16/02/2021 18:49

I wish there was a way to search a long thread like this, in case my question has already been answered.

But WTF does "woke" mean - as in "I am woke" ?

DoveOfPiss · 16/02/2021 18:52

@KirstenBlest I don't think I've heard 'normalcy' used Grin but yes that would get me too. In place of 'normality'?

Etherealhedgehog · 16/02/2021 18:58

YANBU. And to add one to the list of unbearable non-words (apols if already mentioned) - ADDICTING. The favoured term of food bloggers and insta accounts galore. WTF!? An actual word for that already exists, or are you worried that if you describe your new cookie recipe as addictive people will think you're peddling drugs!?

Schooldilemma2345 · 16/02/2021 19:03

I’m totally with you on that one.
I also hate I was sat, he was stood etc. It’s I was standing, he was standing, FFS!

janj2301 · 16/02/2021 19:07

how about hijacking words, veganuary, galentines, palentines, HATE THEM

AnnieSnap · 16/02/2021 19:14

Don’t get me started on ‘a big ask’. When did things stop being challenging or demand? Grrrrrrr!

Watermelonsugar2 · 16/02/2021 19:16

The one that grates on me the most...
‘He was led on the bed’ or ‘I led on the bed’.

NO!! He was lain/lying/laying on the bed or you lay on the bed, for goodness sake!

TatianaBis · 16/02/2021 19:19

@Bluegrass

GreenlandTheMovie - I think gotten is past participle, you “got” something and you continue to have that thing. I guess it follows the same principle that “I forgot it” becomes “I’ve forgotten it”.

I will continue to wave the flag for “gifted” on the basis that not everything you are given is a gift (getting chickenpox certainly wasn’t!).

Once you accept that (which seems inarguable), you must also accept that “given” cannot therefore always provide exactly the right meaning - it requires in some instances that you clarify it with “as a gift”.

You can achieve that same result more economically (with fewer words) by substituting “given” with “gifted”. It is more concise and it conveys a more accurate meaning, therefore it is a good use of the English language.

Get/got comes from Norse and OE.

For some reason it's survived in England with its prefixes: beget/begotten & forget/forgotten but not alone get/gotten so much.

I don't mind gifted precisely for the reasons you give (not gift!): not everything given to me is a gift.

TatianaBis · 16/02/2021 19:22

@Watermelonsugar2

The one that grates on me the most... ‘He was led on the bed’ or ‘I led on the bed’.

NO!! He was lain/lying/laying on the bed or you lay on the bed, for goodness sake!

'lain/laying on the bed' is not correct either.

You were either 'lying on the bed' or you 'lay on the bed'.

Laying is for eggs.

InsanityOf2020 · 16/02/2021 19:23

Directionality.... 🙄