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Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To work full time with a nine month old?

81 replies

wavysnails · 10/02/2021 06:12

I do have the option of not going back, but I’m worried about the long term ramifications of this.

Will it just put unbearable pressure on the family or is it actually not that bad?

OP posts:
Ohalrightthen · 10/02/2021 08:07

I went back to work (from home) full time when DD was 3 months. DH stayed home with her. When she was 10m he went back to work part time, and she goes to nursery 2 days a week. It's been wonderful.

museumum · 10/02/2021 08:11

In my baby group we all went back p/t except for the term time worker who did f/t. She was fine though and those of us who met up on our days off included her in the holidays.
Partly it depends on your hours and commute though - she did 8-5 and a 20min journey which is very different from long days and an hour each way!

Dontforgetyourbrolly · 10/02/2021 08:14

I went back part time when ds was 7 months old ! I loved it ! I'm probably the worst mum ever on mumsnet lol
This was pre pandemic and we had a lovely little local nursery that ds loved . It worked for all of us .
I didn't go full time until he was 3 .

Velvian · 10/02/2021 08:15

I would go back. Personally, I need the validation of earning a salary and having a clear cut framework where my DH needs to also be a parent and also do household jobs.
I also find it much easier to give myself permission to relax. I take a day or 2 off every year when my DCs are in school and childcare to have a day doing something I want to do (in normal times!).

GreenSalon · 10/02/2021 08:16

Mine are older now but I went back full time into a really demanding job which wasn’t always 9-5. First was 5 months, second 6 months and third DC was 11 months old. I remember the dilemma.

I did feel guilty but I also loved my job and was very aware that I was in an industry at senior level that I literally never would have been able to get back into.

I had a brilliant childminder same one for all three and it was a real home away from home. My husband was hands on and yes, got a cleaner etc. I worked in a senior team who were all women and parents so did no issue with the many illnesses that meant taking time off at short notice. But I also had excellent support from my parents who lived within walking distance and I couldn’t have done it with three dc without their support especially when dh switched jobs and was commuting nearly two hours each way .

I realise not everyone has parents willing to help in this way but my mum left her job and went on to have 5 children and she really missed out on pension etc that would have made her life easier now financially. And she always said that because of that, she would do anything to help me keep working.

I no longer live close to parents as work took us away but my three are all at secondary and I would say as others have, this is definitely the time mine need us at home. Pre Covid both of us dropped hours and I was able to start more home working and I was at home every day before they got back from school. For me , it’s a harder stage of parenting in a way that’s hard to explain in that they really need you to be around physically (lots of sports etc for my three pre pandemic) but also emotionally. I absolutely love it though and again my seniority has given me choices financially and otherwise to do this and I don’t think I’d have had this had I taken the time out of the industry when they were smaller.

But I get how hard it is. I’m able to see only with hindsight that I made the right choices for us and three children are all happy well adjusted teens. So too are the children of friends whose parent(S) stayed at home!

Had I been offered term time I would have taken it though as it’s rare.

sunset900 · 10/02/2021 08:25

I went back full time when DC2 was 12 months (part time from 6 months) and it was fine. Definitely worth it to keep a term time only job going.

AbsitivelyPosolutely · 10/02/2021 08:37

I went back full time after 11 weeks so my husband could be off with our son, and then he didn't go back to work.

Our son is four now, and last night he told my husband "you're my third best friend. Mummy is my second best friend".

It's worked out really well for us. It's hard at first but you get used to it.

PinkPlantCase · 10/02/2021 08:40

OP of course you can work full time with a baby in childcare and frankley nobody would bat an eyelid at a man doing it. It isn’t like we’re talking about a new born.

I plan to go back full time when DC is 7 months, I’ve worked long and hard to reach where I am in my career and now is not the time to take my foot of the gas. I don’t see this being at all at odds with being a mother. Working harder now will give me more flexibility later when DC are school age.

Also like you I know I want more children fairly soon. On that front working full time will never be as easy again as when I only have 1 child.

Spindelina · 10/02/2021 08:40

@wavysnails

Yes, two non working parents is super sensible in a pandemic! I can’t fault DH on this, he’s been very supportive and has pretty much said that whatever I want we will make it work.
I'm not suggesting both of you give up work!

Given that you are considering giving up work, I'm checking that him giving up work and you continuing full-time has been given equal consideration.

BendingSpoons · 10/02/2021 08:49

I went back part time and was pleased I did. However some advantages to full time and more mat leave pay if you have another, plus childcare is easier in early years. If you have term time only job, that is a massive bonus at school age, when holiday care etc is a juggling act. Most people I know waited until the eldest got 30 funded hours to have 2 in nursery. They might have a second when their first was 2/2.5ish so they were 3 once they returned to work.

BakewellGin1 · 10/02/2021 08:51

Hi, I work full time in a term time only role, which to be honest has gave me the best of both worlds. I don't have the option to reduce hours but my employer is fairly flexible with taking lunches at times to suit any appointments etc

With youngest (nearly 2) I went back at 8/9 months. He was with GM when I went back but due to Covid I have worked from home and had him myself instead.

At 2 he will be doing 2 mornings a week at the schools 2 year old provision then at 3 he will do every morning.

In normal times I have a 12 year olds hobbies to think about so out term time life becomes a mix of work, school, hobby for an hour or so three nights and one weekend morning with house stuff and meals around this

Its manageable if working is something you want to keep doing. I did because I know how hard term time jobs are to find.

Montysauras · 10/02/2021 08:59

I went back when my son was 10 months... although I was eased into it nicely as WFH so got a lot more time with him then I would have if I was in the office. I don’t regret it at all, my career is important to me. I do work a shorter day on Friday so that I get a whole afternoon with him (+ the weekend) which is lovely! I do get that they are only small for such a short time but I honestly don’t feel like I miss out (and it’s nice having adult time in the week Grin )

Good luck! I hope you make the right decision for you and your little one Flowers

chillichoclove · 10/02/2021 09:02

It's good to think it through and get opinions. I did it twice at 7 months and don't regret it. I am glad I still have my career and I actually dropped to 80% when they started school - I think they need you more then than as babies. But I have a very hands on supportive partner. We share caring responsibilities. And we got a cleaner. Initially every two weeks.
We had nursery for first then childminder when two. Both have pros and cons.
Was it easy? No, but not impossible. And I think on the whole better for my mental health. Did I feel guilty? Yes. But I'm Irish catholic so 🤷‍♀️
If you can make it work it's good in the long term.
Good luck

everybodysang · 10/02/2021 09:05

@Redrose8701

Don’t do it! So tiny. More to life than working yourself stressed
There's also more to life than being a full time mother, if that's not what you want. Perhaps less judgement would be helpful?

I went back to work when my daughter was six months old - I'd actually wanted to wait till she was nine months but I had issues in pregnancy which meant I had to start maternity leave early and couldn't afford not to go back. But - I was working from home, and my husband was also working from home and part time, so we didn't have to use outside childcare.

It was really difficult in terms of sorting out breastfeeding and just being absolutely exhausted. It was brilliant in terms of starting to feel like a human being again with skills beyond babycare.

larrythelizard · 10/02/2021 09:07

I never really considered going back anything other than FT.

I like my job, I'm ambitious, doing well at work makes me feel good about myself. Where I work there aren't any senior people on part time hours (even 4 days).

My parents didn't have much money growing up and I want DS to do as many after school activities as he wants, not having to choose one because that's all we can afford. I want to take him on holidays and adventures in the UK and beyond (we pretty much only camped as kids). Wanting to do well at work is as much about the lifestyle it affords us as a family.

DS was 10mo when I went back, DH had 2 months off with him and he started nursery at 12mo. It took a couple of weeks but he loves it there. The staff are lovely and at nursery he eats everything he's given!

I make sure I don't work between DS getting home from nursery and bed so have a couple of hours with him then and also don't work at the weekend so I have two full days then.

DH and I operate like a team so chores etc are split relatively equally meaning we both get time with DS.

LST · 10/02/2021 09:08

I've always worked ft straight after maternity leave. But dp had the kids in the week as he only worked weekends when they were small

Dogsandbabies · 10/02/2021 09:11

I did it with both my kids. 9 months with DD and I was a single mum. As you say childcare costs were prohibitive so I put a lot on my credit card. But in the long run it was the best decision. She is 9 now. I have an amazing passion pot, a great job, i have progressed in my career.

It was easier with the second because childcare cost wasn't such a huge part of my wage and I wasn't single. I am planning the same with the third one. I love my job and it allows me to provide a nice lifestyle for my children.

PumpkinPie2016 · 10/02/2021 09:14

I went back full time when my son was 9 months old. It was hard at first and childcare is expensive. However, he thrived at nursery -they did so many activities with them!

It got easier as he got a bit older. When they are 3, you can get some help with funding childcare so the cost is reduced.

My son is 7 now and still very happy. Our circumstances changed when he was 3 and DH has been pretty much a SAHD since which is nice. It was unavoidable as DH gave up work due to ill health so I am always relieved that I went back as we'd have been stuffed without my salary. I've had two promotions and now hold a fairly senior position so it's been good for my career.

I make sure I am home for dinner and I always do bath/stories/bed. I work term time only as a teacher so I try to make the holidays extra special.

Obviously, you have to do what's right for you but try to consider the long term as well as the now.

BiddyPop · 10/02/2021 09:45

When I did it, paid mat leave was 14 weeks and I added another 4 unpaid, so was back in FT work when DD was 5 months old.

I agree with others - nursery years were easiest in ways. She did the commute with DH or I (or both). Over the years, she learned about cycle signals (as she started going on the back of DH's bike from about 15 months - we just got really good winter outer wear, and he would bring her for a hot scone to the coffee shop near nursery to "thaw out", which is really not as bad as that sounds Grin ). Many many verses of "Old McDonald" (he used to have lots of zoo animals too in our version!) if the car commute hit gridlock (the city had major issues back then). How to use the bus and train when I moved office so public transport worked best.

And we were ruthlessly organised - bags packed at night before bed and breakfast laid out, rather than rushing that in the mornings. Have the beginnings of dinners done the day before (thaw meat or sauces from freezer, peel and chop potatoes/veg into pots, etc) so I could just turn things on when I got in at the end of the day.

DH and I juggled when she got sick - we had understanding bosses, (DH more than mine ironically) and were able to do a certain amount from home long before the pandemic normalised that, we'd check diaries on who had the more important things that couldn't be moved, one would go in for a very early start and come home at lunch, the other would start at lunch and work late into the evening, and we might also do a bit at home while minding her if possible and at night. And we could often give her some excitement and reduce pressure on ourselves by bringing her in to the city in the car to do the swop rather than morning person coming home and then afternoon person going in - saved each of us an hour.

School years were more difficult, as others have mentioned - school was close to home so it meant getting her to school (or later having a lady come for an hour in the mornings to get her to school) before 1 person doing the commute (the other would go earlier). She went to an afterschool club - initially offsite collected from school, then later the school one extended its hours so she could stay there and also do extracurriculars after school on site too. But there was more pressure to get there at the end of the day than the nursery in town. Or to get to school if she was sick during the day (not frequent, but it happened a few times over the years).

But again, we had already got the ruthless organisation in place, and that continued just adapted a little. Afterschool club fed them (dinner in 1st, only snack but enough in 2nd) and also did homework. So quick dinners or snacks while it cooked when we got in were important. Preferably ones that you turned on pots and could ignore for 15-20 minutes while checking bags, listening to the day's news, doing the day's reading homework, getting changed etc.

And if it's only term times, that is such a bonus!! Nursery years were fine, but once school age happened, holidays were very difficult to manage as most summer camps were either only until lunchtime or the end of the school day, especially for younger DCs. Although there were a few we found over the years. And we also built a circle of support - neighbours or other parents locally who could do an emergency collection if traffic was bad, or that we could arrange a 1-in-3 week collection duty from an activity finishing at 4 to mind 2 others until 6ish in term time, or 1 could drop/collect DCs from a summer camp in town while another collected DCs from a summer camp near home in return a different week....

In our case, DD got quite independent over the years - we built up in steps, (which meant when we needed to change things in a hurry, she was ready). So what started as DD leaving on foot as I collected from afterschool in 5th class (and me following by car after I'd finished the chat with minders), to her having a key and meeting me at the door of the house, to her going home and getting there 15 minutes before me on normal commuting patterns - meant that when there was a bullying problem, she was used to the walking home and being home alone parts, so could go home straight after the activities finished at 4 and make herself a snack (cold or microwave) and do her homework. She has the equivalent of an Oyster card for public transport and, having learned to use that while commuting with us and over the years on other outings, she used it going to local summer camps when in 6th class and was very confident on public transport locally going into secondary (when many others in her school were still driven everywhere by parents) - and was able to come and meet me in town one evening when everything at work fell apart on me and I couldn't go for her.

OK, I'm now going way way beyond your initial query.

I still had the financial freedom of a paycheque. I had adult human company to interact with, as a person not just a "mammy". I felt useful in myself as well (I love DD dearly, but I also love my work). I had got a promotion a couple of years before so we went from beans on toast budget to more reasonable levels, and I got another promotion when DD was 9 months old, so while nursery was eye wateringly expensive, we were not so long out of the beans on toast phase that we couldn't do it again and managed. But I kept paying into pension in the meantime, and my wages did improve and nursery costs did reduce. And we still had plenty of quality time with DD in the mornings, on the commute, in the evenings and all weekend long.

TL:DR Yes

BiddyPop · 10/02/2021 09:49

I meant to add that we still manage dot do lots of "quality time" type activities even though I worked FT - baking, crafts, playing with dollies and having tea parties with bears, nightly story time, football on the green, visits to playgrounds etc.......

hedgehogger1 · 10/02/2021 09:51

I went part time to try and get some balance

CityDweller · 10/02/2021 09:53

I went back to work when DC1 was 9 months (and at about 7 months with DC2). They seem to have turned out ok!

But - I have a lot of flexibility in terms of how and when I work my FT hours (eg with DC 1 I spent a day a week looking after her and made up the hours in the evening/ weekend) and DH did one day a week so she was only at the childminder 3 days a week).

But plenty of people have their children in childcare 5 days a week from 9 months. The Americans even earlier cos they get shit/no maternity leave there.

minniemango · 10/02/2021 09:56

Find a lovely childminder and go to work.

Toomuch2019 · 10/02/2021 09:57

I did and was fine. So I'm biased but particularly if it is term time I'd try and keep your job!

Another way of looking at it:

You have 168 hours in a week, whether you work 37, 30 or 23 there is still a huge chunk of time that is your own even when sleeping taken into account

unmarkedbythat · 10/02/2021 10:00

I went back at about this stage with each of mine- 4 days rather than 5 at first but back up to full time within a few months of that. The first few days I missed them so much it physically hurt but they were fine, I was fine, and I am not cut out to be a SAHP at all. We are all very close. I continued to breastfeed and co sleep, evenings and weekends were still all about family and it's very hard to be happy without enough money to reliably cover all bills anyway so my working was definitely a positive overall.

You do what works for you and don't let anyone make you feel guilty about it.