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To ask what you would pay for this?

374 replies

SequinsAndGlitter · 06/02/2021 17:53

Needing someone to come to the house at 7.30AM, look after a 7 year old and walk 7 year old to school for 8.45AM.
£5 too low, £10 too high?

OP posts:
Rhiannon13 · 06/02/2021 21:15

*It's normal for childminders.

They have multiple children they can charge for.*

This is what people say to justify paying below minimum wage. In reality many childminders only have one child to care for the majority of the day so this argument falls flat.

Duemarch2021 · 06/02/2021 21:17

@Perfect28

This is making me laugh. I mean I agree, but most don't pay minimum wage per hour for a nursery or childminder

Not sure I've understood you correctly?

But if you mean that the OP shouldnt have to pay NMW because nurserys/ child minders dont charge that..

Then that's fair enough she doesn't have ve to pay it, but nobody will do the job for her! Lol

Maybe she should sent her DD to a nursery or a child minder who works with multiple children if she wants to pay £5?... i doubt she'll even find a nursery or CM who doesnt want more than that though to be fair

whatwedontknow · 06/02/2021 21:18

Is it cash in hand or proper work with invoices, insurance and tax and registration, can she pay with childcare vouchers or claim child care costs?

BBCONEANDTWO · 06/02/2021 21:19

@SequinsAndGlitter

Needing someone to come to the house at 7.30AM, look after a 7 year old and walk 7 year old to school for 8.45AM. £5 too low, £10 too high?
Are you closer to the school than where you'd be picking the child up from - if so you could ask the grown up to drop of the child with you at 7.30am and you'd only have to walk from your house to the school?

If that was the case maybe you could charge £10 which would be £50 a week extra cash for you? Don't know what you think it's a big commitment

ShowMeTheWayToAmarillo · 06/02/2021 21:24

At least £10 per hour

Ameliablue · 06/02/2021 21:29

It depends on your reasons for doing it and how long you would do it for etc. Working those hours with a single child will have a big impact on any other work you could potentially take on. You have to think about it as more than just an hour or so's work unless you don't need to work and are only doing it as a favour. Breakfast clubs would generally have several children and childminders would also have more than one.

Smallonesaremorejuicy · 06/02/2021 21:37

Minimum £20 , unsociable hours , crikey DBS & qualified! I can’t believe you can find someone!

sunflowersandbuttercups · 06/02/2021 21:41

@Rhiannon13

*It's normal for childminders.

They have multiple children they can charge for.*

This is what people say to justify paying below minimum wage. In reality many childminders only have one child to care for the majority of the day so this argument falls flat.

Then isn't it up to them to raise their rates? I mean, it's not the parents' fault if that's what you charge, surely?

I don't think anyone is trying to justify paying less than minimum wage - the reason childminder rates are lower than solo care is because it accounts for the fact that there are multiple children being charged for.

Mamatoabeauty · 06/02/2021 21:44

If this is your business I think you should round it up to two hours and charge between £7.50-£10 per hour. A breakfast club wouldn’t pick your child up it’s more of a personalised service.

If it’s a friend/favour/informal arrangement I’d probably ask for less/a token payment...depending on your own financial circumstances and how much your being put out

listerclocks · 06/02/2021 21:46

@TVDFan

£10 is too low.
It's about the same as what a TA is paid.
Dogsarehairy · 06/02/2021 21:52

It's about the same as what a TA is paid.

Not for 1 hr and 35 minutes it isnt.

TVDFan · 06/02/2021 21:53

@listerclocks

£10 works at as less than minimum wage.

TA's earn at least minimum wage so no, it's not the same.
What have TA's got to do with it anyway?

SeasonFinale · 06/02/2021 21:56

As you are not dropping at theirs then you have to factor in their travel time to you and their travel time to get home after school drop off.

TheyIsMyFamily · 06/02/2021 21:59

£15, £75 per week, minimum.

Their most precious things in life, their child(ren), deserve decent care. And that costs.

ReceptacleForTheRespectable · 06/02/2021 22:00

I agree that £10 is too low. £15 would be the minimum.

wishywashywoowoo70 · 06/02/2021 22:11

Who is it for?
If it's a friend or just some random it's probably very different.
I look after my friends daughter 4 times a week for 30 minutes before then 30 minutes after school. I don't charge her.

If it was some random employing me to do it I'd expect at least NMW.

Bunnybigears · 06/02/2021 22:20

A teenage friend of the family £15 a day. Someone you have hired who does this as a living £25, they would have to pay Tax, NI, Insurance etc out of that so that wouldn't be take home pay.

slitheringsnakes · 06/02/2021 22:45

Realistically, the answer to this question is - who is available, and how much will they accept? The market rules. I imagine that plenty of people, maybe not working, retired, a young person on their way to school or uni, whatever, would do this happily for £10 a day. Realistically, they're unlikely to declare it for tax, and may well not earn enough to pay tax anyway.

slitheringsnakes · 06/02/2021 22:47

£25 a day is ridiculous for a quick job that requires almost no skills, no qualifications, and can be fitted around a full time job or be done by someone who doesn't work.

MissMarpleDarling · 06/02/2021 22:49

£10 far to low for that time in the morning. Not worth getting out of bed for.

Iknowwhatudidlastsummer · 06/02/2021 22:51

@slitheringsnakes

£25 a day is ridiculous for a quick job that requires almost no skills, no qualifications, and can be fitted around a full time job or be done by someone who doesn't work.
Confused

That is so completely irrelevant

You sound very jealous that someone could earn that amount.

DillyDilly · 06/02/2021 22:52

Are you bring your own child to school at the same time ?

Iknowwhatudidlastsummer · 06/02/2021 22:52

It's astonishing that the area people resent the most to pay is childcare.

Posyc · 06/02/2021 22:53

No less than £15.

Mildmustard · 06/02/2021 22:59

I’d say £15 is fair.
It’s not NMW but also not much more.

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