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Would you be happy with this rent split?

141 replies

Dustyspringfield10 · 31/01/2021 15:44

700 including bills for a one-bed flat. If one person pays 500 who is in full time employment, salary of 1200 per month. The other person isn't in work due to covid and pays 200 per month.
If the person unemployed looks for and finds a job they could split the rent 350 each way. Would you accept to pay 300 more per month than the unemployed person?

OP posts:
CoffeeRunner · 31/01/2021 16:32

You can apply for a housing element of UC - but wouldn’t the partners full time income be taken into account if living together?

Dustyspringfield10 · 31/01/2021 16:33

That's really not fair of them if they expect my income to cover everything.

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dontgobaconmyheart · 31/01/2021 16:46

Temporarily this wouldnt bother me. It's been a hard year, I'd feel for them that they lost their job and that can't have been easy. You're fortunate you still have yours OP.

If you don't want to do it then don't, if you want more money then simply tell your partner or write down all costs, absolutely everything each of you has and ensure the amount contributed is then agreeable. Clearly you're not happy with it, but what is it you do want? If they give more will they still have disposable income? Do you in this arrangement?

If they move out, presumably you'll be paying the rent in full so would be worse off. Depending on your earnings they would very potentially be financially better off benefits wise not even living with you.

SchrodingersImmigrant · 31/01/2021 16:48

Wait, is your partner moving in now after they lost their job or have you already been living together?

HibernatingTill2030 · 31/01/2021 16:49

Depends. How hard are they looking for a job? Are they devoting a good portion of their time to it? If they're just laying around saying they are "looking" I wouldn't be happy.
I would also expect them to accept the very first job offered, regardless of what it is.

Brighterthansunflowers · 31/01/2021 16:56

I wouldn’t move in if this is the situation if you’re not currently living together. If you already live together then it’s not an unreasonable split if it’s a committed relationship and the not working partner is doing everything they can to find work.

Plussizejumpsuit · 31/01/2021 17:01

It really depends on the second person's income.

BenoneBeauty · 31/01/2021 17:09

I do it for a spouse or partner if a serious relationship but otherwise no.

Cheeseandwin5 · 31/01/2021 17:20

I think there is a few questions , How long have you been together, did he or she lose their job whilst already living together, Is your income so safe that you are happy to always pay your way despite any financial situation you may be in at the time?

Osirus · 31/01/2021 17:24

Of course I would pay, if my partner wasn’t working. Why wouldn’t you, if you can afford it?

2021Sunshine · 31/01/2021 17:27

You will have to claim UC as a couple. You will be required to support them.

Dustyspringfield10 · 31/01/2021 17:28

I am not required to support him ,no, as he isn't a dependent.

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lyralalala · 31/01/2021 17:29

@Dustyspringfield10

I am not required to support him ,no, as he isn't a dependent.
As a partner your income will be counted. You are expected to support each other when you live together.
HostessTrolley · 31/01/2021 17:30

A 500/200 split means that both are paying around 40% of income in rent....

If a couple, then maybe work out ‘joint’ expenses like food and anything else, add this to the rent and work out so that each pays the same % of income into the pot - so say food etc is £200/month then total outgoings would be £900. Outgoings/income = 900/1700 = 53%.

Which would be a split of £636/£265 so then each are paying an equal proportion - so that one doesn’t end up paying all of the food/broadband/council tax/tv license/whatever

dailybriefing · 31/01/2021 17:39

You need to put your figures into a benefits calculator as your income will be considered joint.

You would have to support them.

I suspect that the universal credit Amoun t may be reduced with your earnings.

2021Sunshine · 31/01/2021 17:40

Yep you will as far as benefits are concerned. Household income.

Dustyspringfield10 · 31/01/2021 17:42

Its ridiculous,we aren't married, we don't have children together, we haven't lived together before, I refuse to be "required" to support him. I earn 1200 per month and have 350 monthly debt repayments coming out of that too, I am strapped for cash.

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HibernatingTill2030 · 31/01/2021 17:44

@Dustyspringfield10

Its ridiculous,we aren't married, we don't have children together, we haven't lived together before, I refuse to be "required" to support him. I earn 1200 per month and have 350 monthly debt repayments coming out of that too, I am strapped for cash.
Then don't allow him to move in. As far as the benefit people are concerned, you are one household and your income is counted.

Get him to live elsewhere until he has a job and can pay 50%

mumwon · 31/01/2021 17:45

with uc don't you get some kind of single person premium? Will UC be reduced if you move in together? They will work on income of both parties & HB part will work on a 0ne bedroom flat for 2 people?

yvanka · 31/01/2021 17:45

If he was really trying to get a job I would pay more for a bit. If he was lazing around then that's a lifestyle choice and I wouldn't be paying any extra.

HibernatingTill2030 · 31/01/2021 17:46

If you are already living together, and have a joint tenancy, it matters not at all who can pay what- you are both responsible and you will have to find a way to pay the rent, like it or not.

If it's just you on the tenancy, the same applies.You will have to find the money.

orangenasturtium · 31/01/2021 17:46

@Dustyspringfield10

I am not required to support him ,no, as he isn't a dependent.
Unfortunately, you are when it comes to UC if you live with a partner.

www.gov.uk/government/publications/universal-credit-and-couples-an-introduction/universal-credit-further-information-for-couples#definition-of-a-couple

Boysnme · 31/01/2021 17:47

Are you already living together? If not, I’d consider holding off until you are both on the same page.

Your partner might get more on UC not living together and you won’t have to pay for them. Sounds like you will resent paying the extra.

If you are already living together then you need to work out between you how it will work - once they get a job will they pay you back? Would they do the same for you? If you have debts that need paid do you even have the money to cover their share?

cochineal7 · 31/01/2021 17:47

Of course for a cohabitating couple joint income is taken into account. You are not required to support him, no, but then don’t move in together.

BorderlineHappy · 31/01/2021 17:47

Dont,you sound resentful even before moving in together.

You will be living as a couple of course you should support him.Same way he should support you if the shoe was on the other foot.

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