Would you report this staff member

[Notanotherteenmovie1]

I have posted about her previously. We are on a school rota basis, she commented on how she 'now had some company' when a fellow colleague came into the room and complained about me (I think) outside the door.

I was due to work with her today and I walked in to be asked to work with another group. She was left on her own so I think she requested that I don't work with her today.
This suited me fine as I worked a lot better with the new group and in a more positive and balanced atmosphere.

However today I have overheard her slagging me off on 3 occasions which is absolutely ridiculous and pathetic.

Each time it has been in the canteen and she has done it when I have also been in there. I heard her talk about me to a staff member and the teacher (who I had thought was friendly ) laughed and said 'yeah I had her with my class too'.

On another occasion I heard her complaining "she just comes in and does xyz"

It's made me so angry. She can think whatever she likes about me but hasn't once attempted to speak to me if she has an issue. At least do it in a professional way .

Slagging me off to colleagues when I'm in the vicinity is disgusting.
I have requested that I don't work with her again for the half term and they have granted that.

I'm not sure whether to report her, I'm leaving soon and have zero interest in trying to form any sort of bond, I just think she's a nasty piece of work and that's who she is. I've ignored her all day , should I continue to do that or report it ?

[Buttercup54321]

Report her. She will get worse if you do nothing.

[isitsafetocomeoutyet]

Then ignore her. If you get on with other people just hang with them. It'll be obvious it's her with the problem.

But what did you say to your boss about why you didn't want to work with her? You've not answered my question.

[EarringsandLipstick]

@Tumblebugsjump

I would discuss it directly with your colleague, 'I have overheard you complaining about me three times to colleagues, it's unprofessional and unpleasant. If there are any issues you wish to raise with me please do it in a constructive way, otherwise I'd appreciate it if you stop moaning about me to other colleagues' big grin, thanks.

This - why haven't you?

Your reaction sounds over-the-top; I've read your previous threads too & there seems to be wider issues at play, including possibly your performance.

On this issue, just say it directly to your colleague & see what she says?

[isitsafetocomeoutyet]

Also if you have friends there what do they say?

I say perception, having read a lot of your previous threads, I think sometimes it's hard to see the entire situation when you're emotionally in the middle. I dont know if I'm seeing the full picture.

[Arobase]

@Notanotherteenmovie1

I've been there a year and a bit. Her behaviour isn't kind or acceptable at all, I do have a supervisor, I want her spoken to or issued with a verbal warning.

Then you'll have to report her.

[Notanotherteenmovie1]

Wow.. thanks. What sort of wider issues do I have according to you ?

[LimitIsUp]

Report her

[Notanotherteenmovie1]

Not quite sure being annoyed and a bit hurt is over the top? I am just going to ignore her and will report if she does it again.

[isitsafetocomeoutyet]

@Notanotherteenmovie1

Wow.. thanks. What sort of wider issues do I have according to you ?

This response is telling.

I'm not insinuating you have wider issues.

I'm saying I can only go on what you write here. But surely the whole point of this place is to get other people's perspectives.

I was gently trying to suggest it might seem different to as you are in the middle of it all.

[Notanotherteenmovie1]

Also I've worked with people I didn't think were that competent, but I didn't go randomly slagging them off to various colleagues in their vicinity.

[Northofsomewhere]

I'd probably raise it with her next time I heard her in person, someone else had a good response to her. Or even just walk into the room and make it clear you've heard her, It's clearly not professional.

How soon are you leaving as this may affect the way I dealt with it. I'd be concerned if I was leaving this month that it might come across as one last complaint but at the same time they need to be made aware she's making colleagues feel this way.

[LimitIsUp]

It really is irrelevant whether there are performance issues or not - its unprofessional and bullying behaviour and it needs addressing

[Notanotherteenmovie1]

I agree it's irrelevant. It's not usual circumstances and both colleagues I've mentioned are very loud and domineering with different styles to me also completely ignored me. I've worked well with 2 different colleagues during this rota period due to their more easy going and inclusive approach.

[year5teacher]

I’ve moaned to colleagues about TAs I have had when they’ve been hard to work with (the fact you say you “weren’t strict enough” makes me think you could have inadvertently made her life hard - it’s really difficult to uphold behaviour expectations when another adult is undermining them by being lax.) I’ve also moaned about the teachers I’ve worked with when I was a TA (way more so!!!)

Only ever in private conversation, though. As in, alone in a classroom. I probably wouldn’t formally report it but it’s not nice for you and I’m sorry to hear that, regardless of someone’s performance it’s shit.

[cabingirl]

You mentioned in your other thread that this is a situation with 2 teachers and 7 pupils - so I'm assuming (tell me if I'm wrong) that this is a PRU or some kind of specialist class to deal with extra needs.

With 2 teachers together in a small room like this I assume you need to work quite closely and collaboratively together. Perhaps you've simply had a personality clash with this woman. You mentioned that she said to the other teacher "she just comes in and does xyz"

What is xyz? What's the substance of her complaint - is it personality/social ie. she's miffed you didn't say hello, make small talk, get to know her etc? Or is it work related - she's not getting the collaboration she needs from you to do her job.

Talking behind your back isn't nice, or professional, and if you are feeling bullied then you should report it or at least ask for an informal chat with your supervisor to discuss your concerns.

However...is there something positive you can also do to improve your working relationship with the two colleagues you've mentioned?

[1FootInTheRave]

Just deck her on your last day.

[Notanotherteenmovie1]

It's a regular school and these are the key worker kids we are supporting, and 7 kids to 2 teachers isn't many at all.
In the year or so I've been there ,when I see her around I've always smiled and said hi and she just sort of looks at me .

Once in a lesson we packed up 10 minutes early to play a game. She came in and asked the kids why their books weren't out, without looking at me or asking me anything.

I didn't hear what the xyz was as it was in the cafeteria and a bit noisy.

I think we just have different styles. The kids have lessons on teams all day, we are supervising and answering any questions. I am more laid back than she is and i guess that annoys her .

However I've not had another chance to prove myself.

[AccidentallyOnPurpose]

Complaining about you while you're in hearing age, is not fine. Even more so if she hasn't directly talked to you about any issues and gave you a chance to improve.

You can talk to your supervisor and tell them that as that behaviour is an issue.


However it doesn't sound as you're getting unwarranted criticism, she's just going about it the completely wrong way.

[Notanotherteenmovie1]

With regard to the other colleague he has been great all year and really good to work with. When he left the room the boys didn't listen to me despite repeated attempts so I requested on call.
We were told by SLT to have them removed in case of any behavioural issues. I didn't like the way he downplayed it and made it look as if he was doing everything. But I feel that I tried and adhered to the behaviour policy.

[Staffy1]

She sounds awful. Making the comment about having company now when someone else came in is so rude, as is asking the children and ignoring you. People like that should not work in schools. I would actually confront her and ask her what exactly her problem is with you. Don't know if it will work. I did that to someone in the past who was acting a lot like that when I couldn't imagine what I had done to upset her. It didn't work as she acted surprised and said there was nothing wrong and then carried on in the same manner, but you never know, you might get a straight answer and be able to sort things out.

[Notanotherteenmovie1]

I agree, and she's entitled to not be happy. I thought I was doing ok, I'm just more relaxed than her. I did today what I did the other day with her and it worked fine. She's entitled to not be happy with it but indeed she could have simply spoke to me nicely and requested I do xyz.

[Notanotherteenmovie1]

For instance she wants them in absolute silence during all lessons and I don't mind if they talk a bit. Not saying one way is better, just different methods .

[EarringsandLipstick]

I can't really judge the situation. But you do post a lot about problems with the workplace, not just one colleague (in the other thread you were cross about a manager having informed HR you were going to leave, after you asked for a reference). You also post about similar personality issues with friends.

I think there might be a few issues going on for you.

[Notanotherteenmovie1]

Ok.. thanks for your armchair diagnosis. It's a forum where people can post whatever they like and however often they like.

[EarringsandLipstick]

@Notanotherteenmovie1

Ok.. thanks for your armchair diagnosis. It's a forum where people can post whatever they like and however often they like.

Well, your reply kinda proves my point!

I didn't say you couldn't post. You can. But your posts have a recurrent theme about friends, various colleagues, and managers all treating you badly & letting you down.