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AIBU to think this is cheeky? (Property related)

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opinionatedfreak · 17/01/2021 22:18

We are due to complete on the sale of a family home tomorrow.

The person died so the house is empty.

I’ve just gone round to read the meters and discovered a pile of garden furniture in the back garden.

I’m assuming it belongs to the buyers.

AIBU to think it is cheeky to do this without asking?

YANBU = they are cheeky
YABU = what’s the problem the house will be theirs tomorrow.

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user1471538283 · 18/01/2021 13:19

It is so rude. I would let the solicitors know. They do not own the house yet and that includes the garden!

Also, yes do not leave them one single thing let alone a bottle of fizz. Take it home and then at some point you and your DB can drink it.

Fuss · 18/01/2021 13:59

Can I play devils advocate avocado for a moment.

When I sold my late Mums house the buyers were, to me, the devil incarnate. Their offer was cheeky, demands ridiculous and the spared no thought for the fact I was bereaved. Looking back I took it far too personally, I was grieving and what was really just normal in house sale I kind of blew out of proportion a bit.

Yes, it's cheeky and they shouldn't have asked, but ultimately its caused no harm. Let it go, grieve and try and move on as best as you can. Flowers

rawlikesushi · 18/01/2021 14:21

I'm judging the buyers a bit, but judging anyone recommending skipping it or throwing it over the wall or passive-aggressively telling the EA that there's some unexpected rubbish in the garden quite a lot more.

I bet, if op asked them, a mate dropped it off on the wrong day or the EA said it was ok.

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opinionatedfreak · 18/01/2021 14:29

Estate agent knew nothing about it but has confirmed it is their furniture as he phoned them to confirm.

Transaction not through yet. Some issue on their side with funds.

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Bluntness100 · 18/01/2021 14:38

@user1471538283

It is so rude. I would let the solicitors know. They do not own the house yet and that includes the garden!

Also, yes do not leave them one single thing let alone a bottle of fizz. Take it home and then at some point you and your DB can drink it.

What? What the hells the solicitor going to do. They aren’t your parent. 😂
mygenericusername · 18/01/2021 14:40

I’ve let first time buyers store furniture at a property in selling before now.

I appreciate that they didn’t ask but it’s not something I could honestly get worked up about.

GarlicSoup · 18/01/2021 15:33

@Fuss

Can I play devils advocate avocado for a moment.

When I sold my late Mums house the buyers were, to me, the devil incarnate. Their offer was cheeky, demands ridiculous and the spared no thought for the fact I was bereaved. Looking back I took it far too personally, I was grieving and what was really just normal in house sale I kind of blew out of proportion a bit.

Yes, it's cheeky and they shouldn't have asked, but ultimately its caused no harm. Let it go, grieve and try and move on as best as you can. Flowers

Most sensible post yet
Mummyoflittledragon · 18/01/2021 16:17

Oh dear. Has it gone through yet?

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opinionatedfreak · 18/01/2021 16:18

I’m in doubt whatsoever that the bereavement both of the person who died and of the house is playing into this.

But I am genuinely really surprised at how many of you would be cool about people trespassing onto property you still own to unload & store a pile of garden furniture in advance of buying the house.

I would have been unhappy if this had happened when I sold my own house 4 years ago wgich was also empty for a while pre completion.

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opinionatedfreak · 18/01/2021 16:20

Oh yes.

But next door neighbour tells me they were on site with a van at 8am...

Sale went through mid afternoon.

I’ve asked the estate agent to explain how they had early access to the house.

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opinionatedfreak · 18/01/2021 16:20

Keys should only have been released after the funds were received.

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Shehz21 · 18/01/2021 16:24

YABU OP.

Please move on atleast now that the sale has gone through.

VinylDetective · 18/01/2021 16:26

@opinionatedfreak

But it’s not their fucking house!! They shouldn’t have been in the bloody garden this weekend.
It’s 10% their house if they paid a deposit at exchange! Find something that matters to get upset about.
ladypete · 18/01/2021 16:27

That’s cheeky of them.
You could phone the estate agent and ask them to “apologise to the buyers as someone has fly tipped in the garden and you will do everything you can to get it cleared before they get the keys tomorrow”

Then they’ll have to admit it was them, if it was them for fear of you chucking their furniture away.

islockdownoveryet · 18/01/2021 16:30

So the sale has gone through but yet your still annoyed . It’s their house now so what do you want to do ? . Let it go love and focus your energy on something else .

Itsnotlikethiswithotherpeople · 18/01/2021 16:33

@BenoneBeauty

The house was empty as the person living there had died - it will be theirs tomorrow, I really think you need to let it go! It's no big deal at all.
Yeah, seems petty to get worked up about this minor issue. Hardly crime of the century.
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opinionatedfreak · 18/01/2021 16:34

Yup. I’m still annoyed that they took away my final walk round by deciding it was OK to trespass in the garden.

I’m annoyed that somehow they got keys and were able to start moving in 7hrs before the house belonged to them.

It’s ages since I bought in Scotland but I don’t think you pay any money until the entry date.

The house buying & selling process is totally different.

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HeronLanyon · 18/01/2021 16:37

Op having recently sold my lovely old mas house after she died I totally understand. Think it might be one of those things I wouldn’t have understood until I was in the situation. Siblings and I did a final send off to mum and the house - really meaningful and difficult.
If my buyers had asked I’d have said no probs but please don’t be there on x day.

islockdownoveryet · 18/01/2021 16:41

But I suspect they thought you wouldn’t be at all bothered . I’d roll my eyes at the cheek for 5 minutes max but with all the shit with moving it’d be the very last thing I’d care about .
I mean this kindly there really are more important things to stress about .

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opinionatedfreak · 18/01/2021 16:42

We would have been OK with them accessing the garden.

It was horrible turning up and finding stuff there and knowing that someone had been in the Garden without permission.

The neighbours (remember been in our family for 30years! So lots of long-standing relationships involved were also a little upset as they thought we’d completed the sale without saying goodbye...

Whereas in actual fact we were just waiting until it went through to message the street what’s app group.

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Bluntness100 · 18/01/2021 16:47

You keep calling it trespass, and making it a really big deal. Where as most people see it as dropping some garden furniture off a few hours before they own it. As the house was empty and it was the weekend they probably didn’t really think much about it and likely no one to ask either, or if they had your number didn’t wish to disturb.

You can keep being upset but it’s only hurting you. Try to not think on it. 💐

MrsDiplo · 18/01/2021 17:03

around 4 years ago we were buying a vacant property. Everything was going through fine but we still didnt have a final completion date. It was in the hands of our solicitors and "a few weeks off". The owner offered me a set of keys to have deliveries and furniture sent there. I declined as I was very "what if it goes wrong" about the whole thing and the offer seemed very odd to me to be honest. Good job I did because it fell through the following week.

Pumpkintopf · 18/01/2021 17:07

Your estate agents were negligent handing over keys before confirmation of transfer of funds from your solicitor. What if something had gone wrong? That's really bad, and I still don't agree with anyone on this thread who is trying to tell you it was fine for them to put their furniture in your garden without permission- it wasn't!

(I hope you are now drinking the champagne, you deserve it after all this!)

Plussizejumpsuit · 18/01/2021 17:15

@opinionatedfreak

But it’s not their fucking house!! They shouldn’t have been in the bloody garden this weekend.
You obviously have really strong feelings about it. So why ask if you're being unreasonable?
VinylDetective · 18/01/2021 17:17

@Pumpkintopf

Your estate agents were negligent handing over keys before confirmation of transfer of funds from your solicitor. What if something had gone wrong? That's really bad, and I still don't agree with anyone on this thread who is trying to tell you it was fine for them to put their furniture in your garden without permission- it wasn't!

(I hope you are now drinking the champagne, you deserve it after all this!)

I don’t suppose for one moment the keys were handed over before exchange. It’s possible to access the garden without going into the house at most properties. It most definitely was at my parents’ house which I sold under similar circumstances.

What if something had gone wrong? OP would have been a 10% deposit and a set of patio furniture better off.

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