To be a bit jealous of over 50 holiday bookings

[Toomuch2019]

I probably am but here goes

I was reading an article about surges in over 50s holiday bookings driven by the fact that they are anticipating getting vaccinated soon.

And I'm finding myself incredibly envious that there is a subset of the population that will be able to go about living normally and going abroad while the rest of us are locked away waiting for a vaccine.

I don't feel like I can plan anything holiday wise at least abroad right now as there is no timeline on vaccines for under 50s and I don't want to risk getting ill in another country. Particularly if insurances will only cover vaccinated people (which isn't the case yet but can see it moving in that direction).

I know there is no answer and obviously I'm not arguing vaccines aren't in right order but does anyone else feel wound up with articles like this rubbing it in?

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/business-55654127

Oh and over 50s and triple lock pensions...don't make me laugh. We still have a mortgage, as do most people my age. I'll be looking at a minimum state pension too.

Especially as it’s the over 50’s that we’ve been in lockdown for as they are the most vulnerable and as yet there is little evidence that the vaccine prevents transmission.

DH and I are both in our 50s, we've both been going in to work throughout, so I'm curious to know how you staying at home has protected us.

fiz The elderly have too many benefits and breaks compared to the rest of the population, that has long been the case. Your average seventy year old is NOT paying off the war debt!! Goodness gracious.

There appears to be evidence that the over 60s don't isolate as long as younger people already so chances of them all thinking they can get on with their lives as normal once vaccinated seems pretty high. They can get fucked though. We are damaging children's lives to protect the NHS which they are statistically more likely to need.

BTW when we say elderly I think we are talking about those of retirement age - 65-70 years old upwards.

Most fifty year olds still have children at home, full time jobs and mortgages.

Most of my friends (who are over 50 like me) have spent most of the last year doing extra shopping etc to try and protect their elderly parents most of whom are in their 70s/80s.

They have also had to spend time looking after dependent children - taking them to school etc to try and reduce the use of public transport.

Aaah they’re a bit silly. It’s not that straightforward. Plus you can get COVID even after vaccine

"surges" could mean anything given it comes from a zero base. I'm dubious that this is anything more than postponed trips from last year being rescheduled.

I think pensioners need to help pay off the debt mountain, given the enormous sacrifices our young people have made for the elderly.

Young people didn't make sacrifices to protect the elderly; they made sacrifices to protect the NHS - a service they will be using for much longer than the elderly.

I am seriously tired of the ageism on MN, it's like the one acceptable form of bigotry.

Wow - blatant ageism. Every generation has struggled with the pandemic but you are still alive! What about thinking of the families of the 80,000 plus who have died with Covid

No one generation has had it worse than another.

@Icanseegreenshoots

I think pensioners need to help pay off the debt mountain, given the enormous sacrifices our young people have made for the elderly.

It is absolutely essential that the young are not lumbered with the biggest debts in history for generations whilst pensioners enjoy their triple lock pensions being spent on lavish holidays. As it is there is a huge generational divide in terms of home ownership, living standards and all the rest.

We need to have some real time adjustments.

Well I'm still working. And when I get my non-triple locked pension, do you have any idea how I "earned it" (cos actually, I paid for it, nobody gave it me) - 30 years of working in war zones, areas hit by natural and other disasters, and working with the poorest and most disadvantaged people in the world. And now that I am not able to do that I am working with the poorest and most disadvantaged communities in the UK. I've dealt with the worlds problems first hand. I have earned what I have. Millennials can bloody well do the same thing!

The eyewatering cost of treating the mostly old covid patients combined with the massive costs to the economy is not something any member of society should leave to others. End of.

The young have shown incredible levels of compassion, sacrifice and care - their extraordinary sacrifice should not be ignored. They themselves are at no risk whatsoever, but they willingly, without complaint given up an entire year of their young lives to keep older generations safe. Do we thank them with the multi trillion debt to pay off?

Of course not.

@tinselearedcow

OK, I have read the BBC article and the OP is being very misleading:

"TUI, the UK's largest tour operator, says 50% of bookings on their website are currently by over-50s"

So the same percentage of under 50s are booking holidays as over 50s. Are you angry eith them too OP?

Article also says:

As TUI analysed its recent booking data, one trend they spotted is the emergence of large, multigenerational group bookings
It is family time we've all missed. We can't get away from our own families, but our broader families we can't see, and that's feeding into our choices" Mr Flintham explains

@Icanseegreenshoots

fiz The elderly have too many benefits and breaks compared to the rest of the population, that has long been the case. Your average seventy year old is NOT paying off the war debt!! Goodness gracious.

If you mean the debt from WW2, then anyone who was paying tax prior to 31st December, 2006 did indeed pay it off.

@ToffeePennie

I am due to have a vaccine any day now. I have been told that it is absolutely NOT allowed to do anything “normal” until you’ve had your second vaccine, then you must go through a “clearing” process. Then you must wait for the rest of your household/any regular visitors to go through the same process. I think the over 50s are being foolish booking abroad holidays.

Surely you're not allowed to do anything "normal" until the rules change /restrictions are eased and more normal things are allowed? Vaccinated people can't just abritrarily start to go against restrictions and rules.

Note- I'm referring to over 60s rather than over 50s. Most 50 year olds will be working full time and will be working full time for the next 15-20 years.

This is the biggest thing I hate about Covid talk - the resentment from some people towards others - the others who cannot help their age or vulnerabilities in many instances - people picking at others aaargh

I am not sure why anyone, over 50 or not, is planning holidays for this year. Especially if they are travelling by plane, could not think of anything worse than sitting on a flight in a mask. I am going to wait until I can book a holiday and know I will be able to go and enjoy it, even if that is a couple more years away.

I am annoyed though that schools and hospitality etc is all shut but people can still come in and out of the country unchecked. To me that makes no sense at all 🤷‍♀️.

I think there is a possibility that you will only be able to fly if you have a vaccination certificate, come June this will see an influx of people trying to buy via "black market" so they can go on holiday. Already I have heard of big companies trying to buy up stocks of vaccines to give to their staff who are under 50 so they can start travelling and trading abroad. This is the most corrupt UK goverment ever so they will be selling vaccines out the back door to make sure their friends get their fancy holidays. We have a holiday rolled over from last summer for July and I will be gutted if we lose it again as we are under 50 but it will be 100% worse if people over 50 and those who have acquired their vaccines dishonestly can go on holiday and we cant!!

The eyewatering cost of treating the mostly old covid patients combined with the massive costs to the economy is not something any member of society should leave to others. End of.

Older patients are more likely to die, so cost less. Younger patients are more likely to require weeks or months of treatment, so cost more. I think most reasonable, non-psychopathic people accept this cost, I accept you may not fall into that category though.

@PilatesPeach

This is the biggest thing I hate about Covid talk - the resentment from some people towards others - the others who cannot help their age or vulnerabilities in many instances - people picking at others aaargh

People don't resent that. People WILL resent it if those people start flouting the rules because they've been vaccinated. They can still transmit the virus and can reasonably be expected to comply with the rules everyone else has to.

Icanseegreenshoots

The elderly have too many benefits and breaks compared to the rest of the population, that has long been the case. Your average seventy year old is NOT paying off the war debt!! Goodness gracious

We didn't finish paying war debts until 2015, so yes most seventy year olds will have spent their lives repaying. And many pensioners live in poverty, my parents just get by on their state pension.
Stop letting the media fuel your hate and ageism.

I’m 51 and if anyone dared to refer to me as “elderly” I’d kick them good and hard up the arse. The over-50s are keeping this country running just as much as the younger folks.

I resent being called old at the ripe 'old' age of 51!!

Yes - I have a holiday booked for October. Rearranged from last year. I hope we can go. And I hope that the travel industry can get back on its feet for all those people who are magically expecting holidays to still be available when the world gets back to normal.

Oh dear God.
Is this all you can find in the world to get wound up about???