Why men love bitches

[GoldfishParade]

Browsing for books and this comes up as a recommendation (): Why Men Love Bitches: From Doormat to Dreamgirl―A Woman's Guide to Holding Her Own in a Relationship.

Looked at reviews and one reviewer posted a pic of extract from the book (attached here).

Has anyone read this? Is it tongue in cheek?!

I'd have thought that was obvious, you never cancel things for a man, it makes you look sad and pathetic and needy, You tell them, 'my next free evening is Wednesday next week'

@cultkid

You’ve got to elaborate! Come on!

Basically I was so loud, available emotionally and desperate
I wanted a

Sorry I clicked too soon I wanted a boyfriend so much I was so lonely

Kept having crap one night stands

Then I went for lunch with my husband who I met online and literally didn't leave his side for two weeks but I did use some of the behavioural techniques I won't lie 🤣

So I'm 28 now and I have been with him for 8 years I believe on March 15th and married for 6 1/2 years now

I was at uni and on shag at uni 😆 and he was on plenty more naughty fish

We have two children as well

@CSlblonde

But that’s just drama - I would be exhausted with all of that.

The kind of women in that extract dosnt sound like a bitch...she sounds like a complete sap!
However I am useless with computers so im aure dp gets a thrill out of my helplessness!

"women tend to find a gorgeous man whose personality doesn't match up a bit of a disappointment."

Ha ha ha. Women are never attracted to the good looking bad boys. No, never.

"I did use some of the behavioural techniques I won't lie 🤣"

Which ones and how did they work?

I have namechanged for this because I'm too chicken to post under my usual name

Please, please don't judge this book on the title or little excerpts. The core message of this book is stop being so bloody nice and putting yourself out too much for new men, even if you are really excited about them.

I read this book and forced myself to follow the guidelines, especially around texting, while I was online dating. I followed the guidelines when I met my last internet date.

Reader, I married him Remember BITCH in this context stands for 'Babe in total control of herself', not 'stroppy nightmare high maintenance overgrown toddler who pretends to be fragile'. I was the kind of idiot who was too kind for my own good and happy to give guys a second chance out of sheer niceness. This book helped me find a better balance between being a kind person and a gullible idiot.

It also helped me to avoid my usual self-sabotage when I met a keeper. We are together fifteen years. I've kept this book for my daughters when they are a bit older

@Gwenhwyfar

"women tend to find a gorgeous man whose personality doesn't match up a bit of a disappointment."

Ha ha ha. Women are never attracted to the good looking bad boys. No, never.

Yes there is that....

Wow, I couldn’t be bothered with all that tbh. Why not just find someone you like and who likes you and spend time with them like a normal person? When DP and I got together we barely even went on dates, we just stayed in bed all day having sex and watching Scrubs and when we wanted to hang out we just... told each other?

The page of the book doesn't match up with the title.
Why would you act in a relationship built on mutual respect?
This is manipulative AF and probably means the relationship will fall apart in a few years when he realises you're not the person he thought you were.
God it's as bad as that pickup crap that some men buy into.

Just be yourself and let him be himself and see where it all goes, if it doesn't go anywhere move on. Why put all this effort into changing yourself and acting and manipulating instead of putting effort into finding someone who loves you exactly as you are?

Exactly what @namechangerchicken did

Precisely thaT

I was way too emotionally freely available to men and it wasn't a catch enough for them
I was still the same woman

It’s a shame it doesn’t work the other way round tbh, our sex life would be great if I got horny every time DP says something stupid xD

Wow- anyone who started killing bugs would be out on his ear

I cannot stress enough - that page from the book is no advert for the book. It really isn't.

I hate all these books. Strategies and rules and whatever the latest bollocks is. If there really was a fail safe "this is how you achieve and maintain a mutually satisfying relationship" technique I think humanity would have stumbled across it long before now.

Please, please don't judge this book on the title or little excerpts.

I don't, I judge the whole money grabbing, lie selling, time wasting, anxiety provoking ridiculous fucking concept of these things.

@Gwenhwyfar

"women tend to find a gorgeous man whose personality doesn't match up a bit of a disappointment."

Ha ha ha. Women are never attracted to the good looking bad boys. No, never.

I took that to mean that a stupid or dull man would be a let down. Bad boys may be twats but they're not usually lacking in personality.

Apparently went to all sorts of contortions to impress me - taking books back to the library for me, carefully eating at the same pace as me. I married a total people pleaser, and just kind of assumed that turning up and supplying the boobs was my part of the deal fulfilled

What a load of bullshit

I’m a shortarse and frequently have to ask strange men to reach the top shelf in the supermarket for me. Surely I’m not the only one?

What is this? I don't get it - why do we have to do these things?

I'd be interested in seeing an excerpt from the equivalent book for men.

One male equivalent that everyone has heard of would be The Red Pill.

Sadly, the main message of these books (see also The Rules and He's Just Not That Into You) does work.

Value yourself highly, don't do all the running, don't accept crap in the early stages of a relationship. This might seem obvious but so many women are so keen to have a boyfriend that they throw themselves into new relationships instead of using that time to show how they expect to be treated. I know because that's exactly what I was like but once I changed my attitude the results were pretty much instant.

I hate that this is how it is but I can't change it, and I do want a successful adult relationship.

I can get on board with a book that is REALLY about owning your own self. But this page reveals a rather fake, weak heart. There must be better books about being self reliant and assertive?