Do you believe in 'ghosts'?

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I'm not a woo person by nature, I'm more of a sceptic but there has been two or three occasions where I've encountered something unexplainable.

Do you believe in the paranormal?

YANBU - yes (please explain why)
YABU - no, it's a load of bollocks

@RylanClark

I don't believe in ghosts after reading the statistic (that I now can't remember) about how many men meet a new partner at their wife's funeral, how many meet their new partner within six months and how many within a year. Because if my husband met a new partner at my funeral I'd haunt the shit out of him but I've never heard of it happening and I can't believe in the history of ever a woman has never been pissed off her husband met his new girlfriend at her funeral.

[quote TryingnottobeWaynettaSlob]@DorisDaisyMay this sounds like Clairaudience I know someone that used to hear ringing bells in her ears when near a dangerous person and was later proved to be (without me going into too much detail)[/quote]
What does this mean? Can you explain please?

Hubby and I were staying at a hotel in Scotland once on a tour ( never again- different story ). Anyway, running late for dinner so showered and left the bathroom in a complete mess. When we came in, a couple of towels were folded and in the bath and hand towels hung up. My makeup was placed in it’s bag and brush comb placed neatly on the vanity.
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I used to work on a cardiac ward and resuscitating patients was a routine occurrence. One particular day we were resuscitating a gentleman and we brought him back around. However during that resuscitation another gentleman arrested in a bed about 20 feet away. Another team were resuscitating him. I went to speak to my gentleman later on and he told me exactly what had happened but not to him. He told me what he had seen of the other resuscitation from above! He told me what the staff had said, plus a comment that could only have been made if you had witnessed it concerning one of the other nurses. (She had a particular way of reacting to stress)!

Make your own mind up what was going on there!

I had some freaky ghostly experiences in that old Victorian hospital.

Sat at the nurses station one night doing paperwork and alone as the other nurse had gone to get something from a cupboard. All of a sudden I heard a female voice in my ear. ' check bed 15'. I turned around. No one there. I went to bed 15. He was about to fall as he was trying to get up.

The nurses didn't laugh in that hospital when we recounted strange events. We just accepted they were among us. I'm quite cynical by nature too!

I certainly think that some people’s brains are more receptive to certain things than others, and AFAIK there are still parts of the brain whose functions are unknown, or partly unknown.

E.g. my mother was an acutely sensitive type, which could sometimes make her difficult to live with, but I know 100% that she was occasionally acutely telepathic over very long distances - but only in cases of acute distress or trauma in someone she was close to. She would dream exact details of something, at the time that it was happening, be very worried and tell the family, and later have whatever it was confirmed by letter or phone call.

I know personally of 2 detailed cases of this. Obviously such a thing could never be proved under lab conditions, since it only ever happened when someone close was under duress.

That’s what I mean by ‘some people’s brains’. Animals can sense things that we can’t, and after all a very cheap radio can pick up all sorts of waves, and yet many people refuse to believe that the infinitely more complex human brain can do things we don’t yet understand.

As for people who scoff at anything that can’t yet be explained, all I can say is, if the whole human race had always thought the same, we’d never have had radio or TV, or planes in the air, and would very likely still be thinking that a rainbow meant some powerful invisible being was no longer pissed off with us and demanding a human sacrifice.

@KathleenTurnerOverdrive

But injection in the stomach is not a common thing? The aunties uncommon name.

I doubt the so ed medium said right out 'your sister objects herself in the stomach'. It will be along the lines of, I see someone else in your family who has some sort of pain in the stomach or the chest, who feels a sharp pain' Then the sitter fills in the information themselves, a stabbing pain could be interpreted as a stomach ache, a tattoo, indigestion, a hernia etc. Once the vague bait is chucked up, the sitter adds meaning which the medium embellishes. For every hit, there will be plenty more misses, but remember the hits

The medium might not out right said sister but she did say injecting her stomach and not because of diabetes, she was very specific, there was no hinting at things. We have a very small family and we dont know many people who have died, so for the lady to get 2 names of people we do know who have died and for both names not to be particularly popular and again she said both names clearly. My sister and I wernt that close to our dad so it's not that we're desperate to feel like hes still about. His death actually made me believe less in the potential afterlife as when he died it all felt very final and I didnt sense him around.

@Tinkerbell456 I can’t tell if you are being serious or not?

But if it’s a nice enough hotel it would have a ‘turn down’ service and so it would have been human rather than ghostly hands that tidied up, while you were at dinner!

Sat at the nurses station one night doing paperwork and alone as the other nurse had gone to get something from a cupboard. All of a sudden I heard a female voice in my ear. ' check bed 15'. I turned around. No one there. I went to bed 15. He was about to fall as he was trying to get up.

I don’t personally believe, but that is a lovely thought, a ghost nurse still on duty and looking out for the patients.

It reminds me of an episode of the X files when Scully was in a coma and there was a very caring nurse who told her she was there to look after her. After she recovered she asked another nurse to thank Nurse Owens. The nurse looked puzzled and said there hadn’t been a Nurse Owens at the hospital for 20 years.

Sorry to highlight my own post but I'd be very interested to hear responses to this both from those who strongly believe in ghosts as something "paranormal" aka outside of the realm of scientific discovery, and those who are sure there is nothing that our current level of science cannot explain.

I don't think anyone is claiming that our current science 'explains everything', it's more that, on this type of thread, people with absolutely no knowledge of science and how scientific methods work come on and say 'Science doesn't know everything!' and 'Science has never disproven the existence of ghosts!' and quote the same line from Hamlet out of context.

All we can say is that at this point, no 'hauntings', timeslips, psychics or any other manifestations of the supernatural have manifested under properly-regulated test conditions where the possibility of 'cheating', subjective bias or imperfect human recall was eliminated.

It is impossible to say that this won't change change in the future, but it doesn't make a lot of sense with the state of our current knowledge to regard some stage psychic's claim that she's speaking on behalf of your Auntie Madge (with secret knowledge of where Uncle Fred's missing false teeth are) as some harbinger of possible scientific discoveries to come.

(And the people who handwave about 'energy' not being created or destroyed by transmuting into a different form on death and implying that this is 'spiritual energy' or a soul or consciousness which survives the death of the body are just misunderstanding the science. That energy is just used in the process of decomposition or cremation. If consciousness survives the death of the body in some longterm way, we have yet to see any evidence of it.)

MagentaDoesNotExist thanks for your comments, it's very interesting.

Sorry to highlight my own post but I'd be very interested to hear responses to this both from those who strongly believe in ghosts as something "paranormal" aka outside of the realm of scientific discovery, and those who are sure there is nothing that our current level of science cannot explain.

I can't explain it.But I know what I saw.
You don't see love but you know it's there.

BorderlineHappy

I don’t think people can know strongly either way. I can imagine historians looking back on old internet threads like this in 1000 years and viewing us like we view the people from thousands of years ago who thought the sun and the moon were gods because they didn’t have the scientific knowledge.
One day humankind will discover the truth behind ghosts and the paranormal. Well that’s what I think anyway. And that’s if we don’t kill ourselves off with climate damage first!

Sorry borderline I quoted the wrong person!

Yes I do and pre covid I would go to Paranormal ghost hunting nights with a group .I have experienced things that I can not explain and the group I go with will always try to de bunk it but sometimes you can't. I can sense spirits and so can my youngest DC.My house is 150 yrs old and haunted. I haven't seen our spirit but my youngest DC has a number of times.They don't bother us we just bump along together.

Worth adding to not all spirits are friendly. I have been on Paranormal nights where I have been told via a spirit board to leave the room and felt a very heavy, oppressive presence also felt by others. I obviously didn't leave but had an object pushed rather hard at me witnessed by other people no way any one touched it.

I'm not sure whether I believe. I have seen/heard/felt some of my deceased cats. They appear when I'm very stressed though. Part of me thinks its a figment of my imagination. Another part of me finds it incredibly comforting to know they are still here.

I had an experience once in London when i was a student. I needed to get to a particular place for an important meeting and looked up my route only I must have gone wrong somewhere. I stopped for a moment and couldn't decide whether to go left or right, I knew I was lost and running out of time. In a moment everything around me seemed to dim and a guy came out of nowhere, looked at me and the notes in my hand and said go right. Everything sort came back as I thanked him and went off / disappeared. I didn't really take in the experience till after my meeting. How it was so strange, how he came from nowhere, my destination wasn't actually on thr paper? The meeting being successful was a career / life changing moment. I do wonder if spirit were looking over me that day? Going left would def have meant me being very late!

@Awwlookatmybabyspider

I've never actually saw one but yeah I do believe. Its kind of on my bucket list to see a ghost. Although if I did see one I'd be a bloody ghostie myself as I'd die of fright

The first time I saw one on a Paranormal night not going to lie I was actually am I seeing this but I now what I saw and briefly it unnerved me. I sense more than i see.

@umpteennamechanges

There's no point being scared of ghosts though.

Even if you believe in them, there's no evidence that they can harm people at all. Think of all the anecdotes of ghosts - how many were actually harmed?

They can be unpleasant if they were unpleasant in life .I have come across unpleasant spirits not often but it happens. Very dark, unpleasant feeling and it can feel threatening but like I say it is not that common.

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@MagentaDoesNotExist

I remember many years ago reading about a little girl in born in one part of India who was adamant she was from another place entirely, hundreds of miles away. She named all of her family members, their town, gave lots of details. It turned out that another little girl the same age was saying the same about her family. And that both of them had almost died and been revived on the same day, when this began. Journalists went and spoke to both families and it seems impossible it could have been made up and neither had any contact outside their local area. Eventually both accepted that the other child was really the embodiment of their child and they swapped back to live with their "original" families.

That's astounding!

@yaboo

yes, I believe, had many experiences, and some of those I've been able to verify with actual, real 'evidence'.

For example... my local library. First time I went in, I got what I call 'my vibes'. I hear stuff, too, voices, words, sentences, and I'm hearing somebody talk about how the place looks good since they've redecorated. But the place didn't seem freshly decorated, to me. I looked up to where I thought I was being 'observed' from, and there was a woman dressed in green, military-ish clothing. Very 1940's land-girl styley. She wasn't interested in me, though, she was there for the 'hole'. Above her, there was a massive hole in the roof. A big round hole. I could see the sky through it. I looked away, looked again, and both she and the hole had gone.

The woman at the desk smiled when I approached her, and she said, 'did you see Mary, then?'

I nodded. I knew what she meant. She knew, too.

I went home, and looked for further info, and yep, the place was bombed in world war two, and I found a photo of an ARW and the big hole. And yep, the woman in the picture seemed to resemble the 'ghost'. No idea if her name was Mary, or not. But I'm certain she was there on the balcony that day.

I haven't seen her again but I can sometimes.. feel her there, and hear her, too. She says shit like 'nice blouse', etc, to me. I always make an effort to dress nice, now, when I visit. For 'Mary'. (lol).

I have loads of experiences like this. There's ghosts everywhere... imho...

I like that explanation, vibes. Both myself and my youngest DC can walk in somewhere and just sense there is a spirit. My Dc went in building once and said she could sense 5 children all she described as young children close by .We then found out the room she said she sensed the children had been where a Sunday school would be held.

Whilst I don't believe in the whole white floaty image of a deceased person or animal being visibly apparent.

Just as I could carve my name in a stone and it would be there for many years after my death I do believe that intense emotional or physical feelings such as extreme pain, lost love, strong love for a particular childhood home etc etc can stay with a certain location for some time. Equally whilst incidents of brutal torture and painful death are associated with ghosts.

This is the odd or intense or cold feeling you get in a particular place. Depending on the strength of the feeling this emotional or physical feeling fades which is why you tend not to get so many reports of ghostly Roman soldiers but more reports of young children from 100 years ago or tortured prisoners in a cell.

Some people are more attuned to picking up this vibe just as some people are more attuned to picking up non verbal social emotions / clues.

Being a bit socially inept I personally don't pick up on social emotional clues or from "ghostly vibes" but that does stop believing in both .

Yes, but I didnt till I saw one. And I would have sworn blind to anyone that it was a load of balls. We have lots of woo things happen in our house now that 'could' be explained as one offs but the frequency is madness.

• Telly turns itself on in our bedroom at night so we've had to unplug it.
• We live in an old house and have done for 7 years so know all the creaks and noises it makes. So we know that when we hear footsteps walking round our bed, its not just normal noise.
• Orbs on videos I've taken of our children and on the baby monitor.
• Things being moved and put in the middle of the living room floor, very often overnight.

And the one that scared the bloody hell out of me was one night when me and DH were watching a film, kids in bed and we saw (our downstairs is open plan so clear view through to dining room) our sons ride on car seat lift up and go back down with a bang before 3 of his toot toot drivers cars started singing at the other side of the room. Yeah, that I cant explain...