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Do you believe in 'ghosts'?

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Bump2021 · 11/01/2021 18:27

I'm not a woo person by nature, I'm more of a sceptic but there has been two or three occasions where I've encountered something unexplainable.

Do you believe in the paranormal?

YANBU - yes (please explain why)
YABU - no, it's a load of bollocks

OP posts:
SirVixofVixHall · 19/01/2021 00:02

Although Olympic could yours have been ball lightning?

beenthiswaysince18 · 19/01/2021 00:26

I'm not sure if I do to be honest. I think as others have said, there are situations that can be explained logically but would have to be investigated to do so.

The only strange occurrence I had was when I was 15 staying with my dad and stepmum in Arizona, it was like 11 pm or something and I had just woken up from a nap and it was dark out. I was cold so I went to turn my ceiling fan off and could only do that by pulling the chain in the middle of the fan. So I got out of bed, reached up to pull the chain and just as I was reaching up, legitimately something pushed me from behind to the floor. It felt just how it would had a person pushed me in my back, like I could feel the sensation on my lower back and it was so forceful that I fell to the ground. I fell to the ground and then I bolted out of that room like never before 😂

Nothing like that ever happened again, but once in a while in that room I would feel like I was being watched. Have never been able to figure out what happened that night.

HikeForward · 19/01/2021 15:14

When I was a teenager I was cycling alone, up a pretty country lane, rural part of the Midlands. I’d cycled this route many times. It was school holidays, around noon, sunny, I was relaxed and enjoying the weather. Day dreaming a bit. There were trees on both sides, as the hill steepened they thinned out a bit on my right but it was still cool and shady.

As I cycled uphill I suddenly felt very uneasy. No reason to be. Just a feeling of wariness from nowhere. I stopped, listened to check no car was coming towards me, no other cyclist (I couldn’t see over the brow of the hill). I actually got off my bike and walked, looking into the trees but saw nothing odd. Heard only the sound of crickets, birds and my own breathing.

As I reached the top of the hill I felt even more uneasy. Then to my left, at the roadside, was a dead deer. I assumed roadkill. Recently killed, there was blood trickling away from the carcass. I remember it’s glassy eye was wide open.

The deer freaked me out, so I hurried past, got back on my bike and was poised to cycle fast downhill, when I heard a loud hissing behind me. I was about 5m from the carcass. I looked around and this enormous black animal slunk out of the ditch on my right. I swear it was a black leopard or panther. It crossed the road, sort of keeping its body low to the ground like it was crouching. It had a long tail and long skinny body, but it moved like a cat. Broad, flat head. It passed the deer carcass, never taking its eyes off me, paused then disappeared into the trees.

I was so shocked I just stood there, one foot on the pedal. Then the fear returned and I cycled as fast as I could the last couple of miles to home.

My parents didn’t believe me at first, but I was so sure I’d seen a panther my dad drove us to the spot that evening. No deer carcass just bloodstains where it had been, and blood on the grass around the trees. He and my brother got out and looked around for a bit but there was no sign of the cat. They found the deer carcass further into the trees and said it was half eaten, bite wounds on its neck and covered in flies.

There were no other sightings of a panther in our area but my dad said he’d seen a similar big cat about 15 years earlier, down in Cornwall.

I often wonder how I knew there was danger over that hill. I think our subconscious sometimes picks up on tiny cues. The birds were singing and chattering loudly as I cycled up that hill, like they warn each other when a domestic cat is around, maybe I subconsciously registered that sound as unusual? Maybe the smell of blood carried down to me and triggered fear? Maybe I heard the hissing earlier but didn’t think anything of it? Had the panther been watching me, stalking me even, as I cycled up the hill?

I think our senses are always alert to danger even if we don’t understand what the danger is. A strange noise, smell, movement in the trees half glimpsed, something out of place, our brain notices even if we’re oblivious.

Maybe the lady who was afraid to go down to the canal that day sensed something was wrong, out of place? An unfamiliar sound/smell/sense of being watched?

81Byerley · 19/01/2021 19:36

I was driving along an unlit road , the A27 at Berwick in East Sussex. My ex and I were going to the Cricketers pub, and were going to turn left towards the pub. There was a man riding a bike in front of us, so I just slowed right down to follow him , rather than overtaking and cutting across him to turn left. My ex said "What are you slowing down for? the turn is about 100 yards ahead". I said "I'm slowing because I don't want to knock the man off his bike" And he said "What bike?". By that time we'd turned off the road, and he swore there hadn't been a bike, even though the bike had lights and was clearly visible to me.

Fatladyslim · 19/01/2021 19:39

I only believe in Birdie Friend

81Byerley · 19/01/2021 19:59

My Uncle had moved back in with his mother for a while (rocky marriage). He was in his bedroom reading, and the door opened and a lady walked in and stood looking at him. He said she looked at him with pity. Eventually she turned and walked out. He went down to tell his mother and when he described the lady, she said "That sounds like my Mam" Her mother died when she was 14. A few days later his little girl died when her nightgown caught fire. He said the lady visited him twice more. Both times a few days before his parents died.

whereismormonjesus · 19/01/2021 20:30

@81Byerley

That is heartbreaking. Your poor, poor uncle. I also can’t imagine the pure terror he felt the second time she showed up knowing what had happened last time.

ChristmasSexyTime · 19/01/2021 21:55

Loved the Netflix series others mentioned on here but by Christ, that Dutch woman. The voices were terrible, especially the little boy. What a fraud.

And if it really was the Indian chap's dad coming through, why wasn't the medium speaking in his language?

lynsey91 · 20/01/2021 11:26

I do believe in ghosts although I have never seen one. I have lived in 2 houses where things have gone missing and either turned up in a strange place or never turned up.

The house I am living in now seems to have a ghost. I have had earrings moved and a few other items.

We had a pair of hair clippers go missing. We had been using them and they were quite large and heavy and also had a lead and plug. We used them in the living room and the next day went to carry on clipping our dog and they were no where to be found. We searched high and low. We both said they must have been thrown out by mistake but in reality that would not have happened.

So we bought another pair of clippers. We put them in a drawer in the sideboard in the living room. We actually said words to the effect "we are putting them in here so we know exactly where they are". About 2 weeks later we went to use them and they were not there.

Even though we are absolutely certain where they were, we again searched high and low and no sign of them.

My dad died on Friday. We stayed with my mum and went home on Monday. When we walked in the living room the clock on the sideboard which is quite heavy and has sat there for about 2 years was on the floor. It wasn't close to the sideboard, it was quite a distance away as though it had been thrown or purposely picked up and put there

Jaypreen · 20/01/2021 17:38

@ChristmasSexyTime

Loved the Netflix series others mentioned on here but by Christ, that Dutch woman. The voices were terrible, especially the little boy. What a fraud.

And if it really was the Indian chap's dad coming through, why wasn't the medium speaking in his language?

I saw that. The first episode about reincarnation was decent enough. But it descended into total crap. I couldn't watch anymore after that fraudulent Dutch woman medium ..
BotanyBetty · 20/01/2021 19:31

Shhh, @Fatladyslim! He might hear you...

Fatladyslim · 20/01/2021 20:21

@BotanyBetty

Shhh, *@Fatladyslim*! He might hear you...
Hehe I'm hoping my belief with spare me 🤣
ElsieMc · 20/01/2021 20:46

I live in a former vicarage. I am a non believer but my dd1 told me she had seen someone run along the landing. Due to the layout there was no way you could pick up speed from where the figure was seen. It creeped her out. Fast forward a few years and my teenage gs1 rang me in a panic as when he was getting out of the shower, he believed he saw someone running on the landing in the same spot. He was pretty upset. His bedroom is where they held the Sunday School.

chocolateorangeinhaler · 20/01/2021 21:34

I do.
I've never seen one or heard noises but when helping grandparents clear out a distant relations house I was upstairs on my own going through cupboards and being nosey whilst my nan was downstairs. I suddenly could smell fresh cigarette smoke, I presumed it was the man from next door and when I went downstairs about 15 minutes later I asked if next door had been round as I could smell cigarette smoke. My nan was very woo and said nobody had been there and she thought it must be the late husband of the lady's house we were clearing as he smoked like a chimney and would have hated anyone getting rid of his things. He had been dead five years plus at this point so the house didn't smell of cigs at all.

Another odd one was a dream I had after the same nan died. It was the most vivid dream I have ever had and not had one like it since. In it I was back in a modern 60s terrace that we holidayed in when I was a child. I was halfway down the stairs in the open plan lounge diner and lining each wall was people sitting on sofas. One of them was my nan as her younger self (I wasn't alive when she looked this young) looking very glum with a handbag on her lap. She looked up at me and gave me the biggest warmest smile and her face lit up. At that point I wanted to go to her, as I was descending one step of the stairs an old fashioned train pulled up outside the picture window and my nans expression changed to an almost ' I have to go now, you can't come with me but I'm glad I saw you', I can't really remember much after that and when I properly woke up felt quite sad but at peace knowing she was now going where she needed to be next. I know it's just a silly dream full of symbolism but I've never had one as vivid or meaningful since.

woodhill · 20/01/2021 22:03

Did anyone remember the post about the Roman soldiers in an office (may have been Bath) who harmed the person there. She was working alone at night

crochetcrazy1978 · 20/01/2021 23:19

@Fatladyslim

I only believe in Birdie Friend
Grin
crochetcrazy1978 · 20/01/2021 23:22

@lynsey91

I do believe in ghosts although I have never seen one. I have lived in 2 houses where things have gone missing and either turned up in a strange place or never turned up.

The house I am living in now seems to have a ghost. I have had earrings moved and a few other items.

We had a pair of hair clippers go missing. We had been using them and they were quite large and heavy and also had a lead and plug. We used them in the living room and the next day went to carry on clipping our dog and they were no where to be found. We searched high and low. We both said they must have been thrown out by mistake but in reality that would not have happened.

So we bought another pair of clippers. We put them in a drawer in the sideboard in the living room. We actually said words to the effect "we are putting them in here so we know exactly where they are". About 2 weeks later we went to use them and they were not there.

Even though we are absolutely certain where they were, we again searched high and low and no sign of them.

My dad died on Friday. We stayed with my mum and went home on Monday. When we walked in the living room the clock on the sideboard which is quite heavy and has sat there for about 2 years was on the floor. It wasn't close to the sideboard, it was quite a distance away as though it had been thrown or purposely picked up and put there

Sounds mad but try asking out loud for them to be returned as you need them. I'm on the Fortean times forums and people have a lot of success trying this and then coming back into the room later to find the missing item lying somewhere obvious
VenusClapTrap · 21/01/2021 08:47

@woodhill

Did anyone remember the post about the Roman soldiers in an office (may have been Bath) who harmed the person there. She was working alone at night
I remember that one. It had the whiff of GCSE creative writing about it.
Rosieposy89 · 21/01/2021 16:13

I definitely believe in them or paranormal. My parents are complete sceptics but something happened to them.

In my family there's an old Grandfather clock that chimes - it was a wedding present for my Dad's Grandparents. My Great Auntie had it, she was very close to my Dad so she gave it to him when she was still alive. I had insomnia as a teen and hated the clock chiming as it panicked me to knoe the time, so my parents let it go flat and put it on the top of their wardrobe where it remained for years. On the night of my Great Auntie's funeral, Mum and Dad were in bed when the clock started chiming on it's own. It's very weird but strangely comforting.

Also the night before my dear Nanna died, I had a dream clear as she was with me, I woke up in tears to find she had passed. My Grandad was dying from cancer and a shortwhile before he passed he said his deceased sister was now with him. There's probably rational explanations for these two but it's comforting to think it's something else.

woodhill · 21/01/2021 17:12

@VenusClapTrap

You are probably right but an interesting read

picklemewalnuts · 22/01/2021 11:26

The white clothed lady thing... women would have worn white most of the time, on way or another. Night gowns were white, underclothes were white. The only time someone would have been in coloured outside clothes would have been when they were up and fully dressed. Also, much easier to see a white clad ghost in the dark than one in darker clothes- perhaps we're just missing the fully dressed ones!

That ship video was interesting- but the figure would have to have been enormous! I think that's a classic of brain interpreting and making sense out of randomness. I do it driving in the snow- my brain is shrieking at me, there's someone there! But it's the pattern of the snow.

Re seeing pets about your house- bereavement requires actual physical brain changes. Your brain forms around its experiences. When those experiences change, it takes a while for the brain to reshape itself to account for the absence. It continues intermittently to feel and see the missing pet/person, despite their absence.

That's not to say I don't believe- some things are much harder to explain.

AlternativePerspective · 22/01/2021 11:39

I was due to go into hospital for open heart surgery. About 3 weeks before I was due to go in I had a dream that I’d had the surgery and that when I woke up I felt completely better, completely cured. All my family were there next to the bed, but I couldn’t get to any of them, and they couldn’t hear me talking to them.

A couple of days later I admitted to my DP that I knew that when i went for that surgery I was going to die, and i told him how I knew.

I thought about it, but realistically I couldn’t exactly cancel surgery on the basis I thought I’d had a premonition could I? So I went into hospital in the absolute belief that I wouldn’t be coming out.

Just before I was checked in for the surgery the surgeon came to see me. He said that having looked at my scans he felt that it was unlikely I would survive the surgery and sent me for a test to check to see whether a different procedure would be preferable. I crashed during that test and very nearly died anyway, spent weeks in ICU, cardiac arrests and so forth but then I did have the lesser procedure.

Somewhere in that journey one of the consultants remarked that although where I was at was bad, if I’d had the surgery itself there is no way I would have survived it.

SpudsandGravy · 22/01/2021 16:55

*Re seeing pets about your house- bereavement requires actual physical brain changes. Your brain forms around its experiences. When those experiences change, it takes a while for the brain to reshape itself to account for the absence. It continues intermittently to feel and see the missing pet/person, despite their absence.
*
Sorry, but I think this is utter nonsense. If that were the case then we'd all be seeing dead relatives, pets and friends around our houses, but most of us never do.

ChristmasSexyTime · 22/01/2021 16:57

@Jaypreen

Episodes 4,5 and 6 are excellent so I'd recommend them. Such a shame that the two episodes on mediums lowered the bar.

whereismormonjesus · 22/01/2021 17:01

@picklemewalnuts

I think that theory about the physical brain changes from bereavement is equally as bizarre as a lot of the other theories. I actually find the idea that ghosts are left over energy and aren’t actually conscious beings much more believable than what you state.

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