To be angry there is no school place for my son?

[supersonicginandtonic]

I have been told that there is no place for my son in school. He has SEND and 2 parents are key workers. In year 7 at secondary school. They've told me there is no place for him as they've had to prioritise children of critical workers.

The aggression and spite coming from a few people on here is very unpleasant. Of course YANBU and I hope your son does get what he is entitled to.

@catchabreak2020

You are quite clearly a critical worker, your work and your DP’s work are critical, even more so during covid and are both directly related. Anyone who can’t see that is stupid! My sister’s a nurse and her husband a care worker, they are entitled to a school place but aren’t taking it because they can work their shifts around it. If you cannot do that then you need a school place, end of!!!

But surely if they can work around it they are not "entitled to a school place"? School places should be an absolute last resort.

Just spoken to somebody from the LA and they are going to contact the school to see what is going on.

By ‘entitled to’ I meant quite clearly meant that the school has offered them a space based on critical worker job roles. Luckily they’ve managed to find a way to work around it with their respective workplaces, even though it is making their lives very difficult because they realise it’s the best thing for everyone and many are in a similar position..

[quote supersonicginandtonic]@Soontobe60 we are needed in the Office more the homeworking is temporary.
DP changes offices next week so will be in daily.
Also have you not read that he needs one to one supervision with his elanring. How do you suppose I do that and work? [/quote]
Which is why I said yo only need a pace for the days you're working.
Employers have been told that they can furlough employees who are not able to get childcare. I would be asking your employer for this in your situation.

@Arobase

Absolute bollocks, you’ve no idea. I’m a teacher, I’ve children I desperately want in school due to SEND/vulnerability, but due to staff numbers, actual space in classrooms etc, it’s not possible to get them in. I’m letting them down, but there’s fk all I can do to get them a place.

I find it frightening that a teacher is so lacking in basic comprehension of what the guidance actually says. So I struggle to believe the rest of this.

You’ve got it in a nutshell - its GUIDANCE. Schools have to interpret that within their own circumstances and ensure they have a watertight risk assessment in place. My school have determined how many places they can offer. @Arobase is correct.

@Soontobe60 the NHS doesn't furlough people. As far as I'm aware there's no option for furlough in any public sector organisations but am happy to be corrected. But I do know that the NHS does not.

@Soontobe60 we have all been told we cannot be furloughed. Keyworker places are available for this reason. The LA are thankfully sorting it.

@gooseygooseywanderingfree you're correct in that. Hence why school should be providing keyworker places.

[quote LadyPenelope68]@supersonicginandtonic
According to this, no school should be restricting numbers of key worker children.
Workers whose work is critical to Covid take priority, read it correctly!!! You’ve already said they can’t take your son due to number of “critical” worker children, your job does not come under that category. You are probably classed as keyworker, but you and your husband are NOT critical workers. If they’ve no staff or no space for your son due to staffing/distancing restrictions, then they can’t take him. At the school I’m at, we’ve had to say no places to some keyworker families, there’s nothing we can do about it.[/quote]
It's pointless saying anything as the poster is so self absorbed they cannot understand this!
Noone is suggesting her role isn't a key role for society. It is just NOT a critical.role.

There are, in the child's school, more children of parents who do have critical roles.

It's really quite self explanatory. For us. But not her.

@MotherExtraordinaire well the local authority have spoken to the head and my manager and they have decided that the head had no right to say my role was not a critical role, especially the work we are taking on to relieve the pressure on the hospitals and doing more community detoxes and our work trying to keep our clients out of the hospitals. Especially given a number are ECV. And also the support we give to social care.
So the local authority thinks it's critical, the local NHS trust think it's a critical role and my manager thinks it's a critical role. And his form tutor, head of year and SENCO think he should be in svjool.
But hey ho, I'm self-absorbed wanting to be able to do my job with no added stress, no my son is safe and his needs are being met and continuing to support the hospitals. Because obviously the only people who are getting hospital treatment at the mo have Covid. No other issues 🙄

@supersonicginandtonic

I work in the NHS, not on a Covid ward but in safeguarding within the substance misuse team. My service users are very complex and high risk. My partner is a probation officer with very high risk offenders.

@MotherExtraordinaire please can you explain how these roles are not "critical"? Do you think that the people who the OP and her DP support can just "get on with it" until the covid crisis is over? Or do you think that maybe the people that the OP works with would end up in crisis and needing to use NHS resources that are desperately needed for covid patients right now? And I'd love to see the Mumsnet thread and Daily Fail article about the absolute horror of the probationary service for high risk offenders such as peadophiles being closed down until the pandemic is over. FFS

@gooseygooseywanderingfree DP is currently working with the police to find a high risk sex offender, who has breached his license conditions. Obviously not important thought let's leave him to it. 🙄

People have gone covid bonkers. They genuinely seem to think the rest of the world should stop due to bloody covid. Best tell the police to stop bothering to investigate any non-covid crime, send the firefighters home and we don’t need anyone to have electricity or gas as it’s not covid critical according to the covid arbitrators on this thread.

[quote supersonicginandtonic]@MotherExtraordinaire well the local authority have spoken to the head and my manager and they have decided that the head had no right to say my role was not a critical role, especially the work we are taking on to relieve the pressure on the hospitals and doing more community detoxes and our work trying to keep our clients out of the hospitals. Especially given a number are ECV. And also the support we give to social care.
So the local authority thinks it's critical, the local NHS trust think it's a critical role and my manager thinks it's a critical role. And his form tutor, head of year and SENCO think he should be in svjool.
But hey ho, I'm self-absorbed wanting to be able to do my job with no added stress, no my son is safe and his needs are being met and continuing to support the hospitals. Because obviously the only people who are getting hospital treatment at the mo have Covid. No other issues 🙄[/quote]
I hope this means your son has a place now? After all, the places are meant to be decided by what the local authority decides as needed.
My DS school sent a message yesterday saying that now they can ask for ID to prove your critical worker status so if the places are been taken by non critical workers they will be released to critical workers instead. As it should be. Why should someone working in a fast food drive through over an NHS worker?

@TalesTheCat yes we thankfully have a place.

[quote supersonicginandtonic]@MotherExtraordinaire well the local authority have spoken to the head and my manager and they have decided that the head had no right to say my role was not a critical role, especially the work we are taking on to relieve the pressure on the hospitals and doing more community detoxes and our work trying to keep our clients out of the hospitals. Especially given a number are ECV. And also the support we give to social care.
So the local authority thinks it's critical, the local NHS trust think it's a critical role and my manager thinks it's a critical role. And his form tutor, head of year and SENCO think he should be in svjool.
But hey ho, I'm self-absorbed wanting to be able to do my job with no added stress, no my son is safe and his needs are being met and continuing to support the hospitals. Because obviously the only people who are getting hospital treatment at the mo have Covid. No other issues 🙄[/quote]
As always, it appears that she who shouts loudest to manipulate wins eh? Or maybe not!

The ht is in charge of operational issues. Let's hope the ht prevails.

I’ve been following your thread and I’m so happy he has a place as he most definitely should have. In my opinion all children with SEN need and deserve a space at school. I work with children with SEN albeit at a preschool level so I’m in work no matter what as they need the same structure and daily routine as normal. I’m so pleased for you :)

@MotherExtraordinaire and let’s hope you’re not in charge of any priority calls with your blinkered and covid-centric view of what is important. Much as you and the fellow covid obsessives would like it to, the rest of the worlds problems don’t stop just due to covid and many people face far greater risks and dangers than covid. Easy to be so selfish when you and your loved ones aren’t exposed to harm from other situations.

@MotherExtraordinaire
As always, it appears that she who shouts loudest to manipulate wins eh? Or maybe not!
The ht is in charge of operational issues. Let's hope the ht prevails.
Let’s hope the Head does, I agree!

But @MotherExtraordinaire it's not the head teachers decision, they have to offer places to those deemed by the local authority as needing the place, and the local authority has decided the OP should have a place for her son.

As always, it appears that she who shouts loudest to manipulate wins eh? Or maybe not!

Seems to me you have no idea on what role people play in the covid response. Fortunately it's not up to you. We'd be totally fucked if it were.

@MotherExtraordinaire ok, so the head prevails. The OP has to stay at home. What do you think then happens to her clients/ service users? Please answer, because if you're so adamant that she doesn't deserve a place because her job isn't critical, then I assume you have an answer to this question? And don't just repeat "it's not critical to the covid response" because you know that's ridiculous.

@Orlania. Unfortunately probably not. Some people think that the only important thing is covid rates and that the rest of the world should conveniently stop to focus on that. The domestic abusers, sex offenders, child abusers should behave themselves (or just be ignored) whilst we all concentrate on covid in school. How annoying that real life doesn’t work like that

Well today I've taken part in a child protection review conference, two core group meetings, a MARAC meeting, CHild in need review meeting and written a report for another. On my way home I dropped of a food parcel for a family in need.
Tomorrow I am due a meeting in the hospital with the substance misuse and mental health liaison teams. Obviously not essential work and can quite easily be done whilst teaching my son at home 🙄