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Stop posting fear mongering bullshit not based in fact

117 replies

orientalknife · 10/01/2021 17:58

School closures until September
Restrictions permanently

None of this speculation is based in fact. All you are doing is making people fearful who are already struggling

Perhaps you are scared and want to project that onto others. Or you're a miserable cunt who wants others to be scared and miserable with you.

I don't know. But whatever your reason, think about the impact your factually inaccurate speculation might have on others.

OP posts:
ZaraCarmichaelshighheels · 10/01/2021 21:17

@Russellbrandshair

Or you're a miserable cunt who wants others to be scared and miserable with you.

This is the real reason. Lots of people on this site have no friends and lead miserable lives so the only way they can feel superior or equal to others is to bring them down with negativity and fear. I pity them even though their actions are vile.

This exactly what I think, they dread lockdown and the virus ending because that means they will have to return to their normal miserable lives whilst others return to their happy ones, yes they should be pitied really.
wanderings · 10/01/2021 21:23

OP, could you tell this to the press, please, and especially the BBC?

And not just about Covid - the press have been telling us that disaster is just around the corner for years and decades. When they said "it's real this time", many of us saw the boy who cried wolf.

I suppose it's too much to hope for that media might become less sensationalist post Covid - I think the media constantly playing the doom merchant is one of the main reasons many people (including me) are not feeling afraid, even in the face the government's latest three-word slogan: "people will die". (Life has a 100% mortality rate, anyway.)

Goldenbear · 10/01/2021 21:25

I suppose some people maybe scared if they lost someone to covid, I lost a relative to Covid, she was elderly but still died alone as we weren't allowed to see her. I am not a miserable C though and I had a lovely life, that was full and interesting pre covid, I certainly do have a heightened sense of the risks but that's a private thought but I think it is really in poor taste to call people names over this.

orientalknife · 10/01/2021 21:32

@Goldenbear very sorry for your loss. In no way am I referring to loss and grief and the very real tragedy that Covid has brought for many. Fear and anxiety are real and understandable.

Rather I'm referring to scare projections not based in fact. Such as we will have to live like this permanently etc

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Hobnobswantshernameback · 10/01/2021 21:39

Someone claimed on a thread yesterday that the nhs was planning for all schools to be closed till September
Not the ridiculous mental gymnastics with that beggars belief
For a start health and education are separate areas within government
Health and education are devolved to the administrations in the home nations so is that the nhs in England or Wales or where?
Quite frankly the bollocks spouted is so ignorant
And don't get me started on the "I work in health and we know that the world will be in lockdown forever "
Usually spouted by someone who is an admin assistant a million miles from any decision making
The "my friends friend says the army will be on the streets tomorrow"
Whatever
It's just bollocks

Goldenbear · 10/01/2021 21:40

Thank you.

I am just suggesting it may be a reason behind some people's fear and spreading the word that this is real. I don't think everyone voicing that opinion all have 'miserable lives' although certainly, people may not return to pre-covid happiness if they have lost someone or if they are experiencing PTSD from being seriously I'll in hospital with it. That said, it must be terrifying for people with other health issues that would have had much quicker treatments in pre-covid times.

Theunamedcat · 10/01/2021 21:41

@Bixs

Yanbu.

I just came across one nutter claiming that someone doesn’t have the right to access health care because of the pandemic.

Technically my daughter struggled because she is registered in her university town she is only entitled to emergency care in her home town in fact to get her medication the doctor had to manually adjust the system to send a prescription to home town instead of Wales where her uni is took ages so I can see how that became exaggerated
parallax80 · 10/01/2021 21:45

Also someone saying parents would never be allowed into school play grounds ever again

Where do I need to sign up for this? Does it come with the vaccination?

TheVamoosh · 10/01/2021 21:48

she is only entitled to emergency care in her home town

This cannot be right. Even undocumented migrants are entitled to emergency care anywhere in the UK, if they need it.

in fact to get her medication the doctor had to manually adjust the system to send a prescription to home town instead of Wales where her uni is

That's unrelated to the above. A prescription guess through the GP so would automatically be sent to the local one she's registered with.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 10/01/2021 21:50

I suppose it's too much to hope for that media might become less sensationalist post Covid

We can hope, yes, but it's likely to be in vain; as long as folk keep clicking on this rubbish they'll go right on spouting it to keep the advertising cash coming in

I'm only waiting for the headline screaming "the new Covid!!!!" Hmm

amusedtodeath1 · 10/01/2021 21:56

Depends where you look tbh, until recently the Mail was very Covid Denying/minimising, but the Express for instance has been phrophacising disaster over everything for years, so Covid is a goldmine for them.

Iliketeaagain · 10/01/2021 22:09

@Givemeabreak88

I have seen it op. Also someone saying parents would never be allowed into school play grounds ever again 😂
This is one restriction I could totally support forever - shove them in a the gate, no having to make small talk with other parents waiting for your child to come out of the door.
blueangel19 · 10/01/2021 22:14

True! But is up to the people to filter non sense. I must said that I have never seen the people in this country like this.

echt · 10/01/2021 22:20

It's up to the individual MNer to steer clear of such topics, though MNHQ needs to be a bit quicker on their toes and move topics into the Covid section.

For myself, I'd have liked more attention paid to the appalling trolls/UsforThem numptoids who infested education threads with "it's safe", "masks are muzzles" yada yada, though mercifully they have STFU lately.

MooseBreath · 10/01/2021 22:22

To be honest, people's relentless optimism is getting me down. "It'll be better by summer" turned into "It'll be better by September" turned into "It'll be better by Christmas" turned into "It'll be better by Easter". I keep getting my hopes raised and then quashed again. That's what's doing the biggest toll on my mental health - the constant letdowns. I'd rather be more realistic and wind up pleasantly surprised than be let down again.

MovedByFanciesThatAreCurled · 10/01/2021 22:23

@orientalknife

School closures until September Restrictions permanently

None of this speculation is based in fact. All you are doing is making people fearful who are already struggling

Perhaps you are scared and want to project that onto others. Or you're a miserable cunt who wants others to be scared and miserable with you.

I don't know. But whatever your reason, think about the impact your factually inaccurate speculation might have on others.

Could honestly not agree more.
Russellbrandshair · 10/01/2021 22:24

There’s a difference though between realistic and “schools don’t go back until 2022” or “we will wear masks FOREVER”

Puzzledandpissedoff · 10/01/2021 22:29

I must said that I have never seen the people in this country like this

Nor me, blueangel, and I've got rather too many miles on the clock

Completely different of course, but in some ways it reminds me of the carry-on when Diana died, with people almost competing for how distraught they were ... just plain odd

Davros · 10/01/2021 22:29

@Funkypolar

Meh, I’m more worried about climate change and nuclear war. Pandemics come and go.
You're on my wave length! I'm more concerned about HS2 and the erosion of women's rights
Facelikearustytractor · 10/01/2021 22:33

@Russellbrandshair

Or you're a miserable cunt who wants others to be scared and miserable with you.

This is the real reason. Lots of people on this site have no friends and lead miserable lives so the only way they can feel superior or equal to others is to bring them down with negativity and fear. I pity them even though their actions are vile.

I'm really surprised at how this pandemic has made very sane and kind people hysterical, nasty and very judgemental. I'm just trying to not have strong opinions anymore and if I read someone else's, they go right over my head as a bit of theatre now. When you take a step back and not get emotionally involved you realise how little sense some people make. Someone sitting on a park bench drinking a coffee or buying a non-essential pair of socks in Asda is suddenly in the same league as someone who is importing kilos of heroin into the country. It's bonkers.
Theunamedcat · 10/01/2021 22:33

@MooseBreath

To be honest, people's relentless optimism is getting me down. "It'll be better by summer" turned into "It'll be better by September" turned into "It'll be better by Christmas" turned into "It'll be better by Easter". I keep getting my hopes raised and then quashed again. That's what's doing the biggest toll on my mental health - the constant letdowns. I'd rather be more realistic and wind up pleasantly surprised than be let down again.
I agree its driving me mental we will all get back to normal soon FUCK OFF
QuantumQuality · 10/01/2021 22:35

It’s not true that the first thing OP mentions isn’t based in fact. It was specifically asked at a press conference and Boris said he couldn’t rule out school closures lasting that long. There’s no point making stuff up in either direction.

itsgettingweird · 10/01/2021 22:35

I actually think your OP is cunty.

Have you ever considered that when people ask if you think schools will be shut until September are possibly themselves genuinely worried. And perhaps hoping will say no and be reassuring?

Considering it was Bozo himself that refused to answer the question about if schools would definitely go back in February or even then say maybe Easter?

I'm personally not worried and but have my own concerns about things. But I'm more than able to consider that maybe someone is worried and seeking reassurance - I don't jump to negative conclusions about someone that they are scaremongering?

IMO the stupid people are the ones who start threads about police arresting woman sat on benches who don't even have the comment sense to find out the actual facts first!

TempsPerdu · 10/01/2021 22:36

Absolutely with you OP - someone on another thread at the mo saying teenagers seen interacting in public should automatically lose their school/college place! Not to mention all the wild speculation about how schools will never reopen and weddings will never be allowed again. Really need to stop looking at the Coronavirus board because it never fails to wind me up, but it’s weirdly addictive - like a one of those super melodramatic Spanish telenovelas.

I think there’s a subset of people on social media who had small, limited, pretty miserable lives prior to the pandemic and are quite enjoying the fact that everyone is now similarly constrained. And they’re dreading everything going back to normal because they’re fearful of being left behind again.

MovedByFanciesThatAreCurled · 10/01/2021 22:36

This thread has made me feel loads better, thank you OP. To the numerous posters who have said that we are grown adults and should exercise our own judgement - absolutely. Pre pandemic I wouldn’t have taken notice of such catastrophising. But things are different. Even the most balanced, rational people with good bullshit-dar are struggling with the relentless doom mongering. Precisely because there IS so much real doom about. I think the posts the OP refers to are goady and actually quite cruel - especially as a lot of the time they are relayed as fact with no equivocation whatsoever.