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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To think this woman is really insensitive....

115 replies

itsgoodtobehome · 08/01/2021 07:50

So, before I start, I know the standard MN response about FB posts that annoy you is just to ignore, delete, defined etc, but humour me on this one.

One of the Mums at DS school has posted on FB 'I love homeschooling' (not ironically) and then followed if up with 'I don't understand why people don't.'

How fucking insensitive is that? Oh, I should also add that she works PT and her DH doesn't work at all.

Clearly has no thought about all those families with 2 FT working parents, single-parent families, key worker families that feel guilty for sending their kids to a school that's meant to be closed etc etc.

I feel like putting all, of that on her post, but it's probably not worth the aggro.

So, Yes: IABU as I shouldn't get wound up by idiots on FB
No: IANBU: the post was really insensitive and the woman is an idiot

OP posts:
SparklyLeprechaun · 08/01/2021 09:11

If she likes it, she likes it. I like parts of it as well, especially not having to do the school run and not having to iron uniforms.

And if she's comfortable admitting that she's a bit thick and "she can't understand...", who are you to argue with that?

littlepattilou · 08/01/2021 09:13

@EggBobbin

A friend posted something similar, complete with smug hashtags #teamjones #toughtimesdontlasttoughteamsdo #winningatlife.... her DD later texted my DD to say she hated home schooling and didn’t understand anything... I was tempted to add this comment to her Fb but just decided to feel quietly smug instead.

(I’ve asked to be furloughed as I cannot handle juggling both a second time)

This is brilliant! Grin

@itsgoodtobehome Of course YANBU. It's annoying. As a few posters have said, especially saying she loves homeschooling, and doesn't understand how others aren't enjoying it too. Stupid, insensitive thing to say!

She's in the same group of people demanding lockdown, who all get paid (either they work from home, or are furloughed, or they receive benefits, or a pension.) Not even stopping to think of the millions of people who are getting no money when they aren't working, and the self-employed.

Not necessarily awful people, but people who don't think outside the box, and who are living in their own little world, not giving a thought to other peoples circumstances.

As for this (that eggbobbin mentioned in her post I quoted.)

#teamjones #toughtimesdontlasttoughteamsdo #winningatlife....

Pass the sick bucket. 🤢

I can imagine it's hard to home-school your children, especially when you are working (from home) too. And anyone struggling with this has my utmost sympathy and respect. Smile Flowers

This too shall pass........ (Oh fuck me, isn't that an annoying phrase?!') Confused Grin

littlepattilou · 08/01/2021 09:13

@Lalliella

One of my friends posted loads of pics of enjoying all sorts of activities with her kids recently. She’s just told me she was diagnosed with cancer a month ago and hadn’t told the kids over Christmas. Often what appears on Facebook is a screen for what’s really going on. Or it’s someone trying to make the most of a bad situation. If you can’t be happy for the person then either ignore it, block them, or don’t go on in the first place.
It's also possible, as this poster has touched on ^ that the woman's life is not as peachy as she is making it out to be. Bet homeschooling her kids is a nightmare secretly. Grin

NEWSFLASH! Not everyone's life is a perfect as they make it out to be on facebook.

I know right. Hard to believe eh??? Grin

Seriously, I have seen (and I'm sure we all have,) women who are all sickly sweet with their children outside in the garden, and in public in general, with all the 'awww, come here darlin,' and 'aren't you a little princess, come and count to ten with mummy!' Then behind closed doors you can hear them screaming her lungs out at their children!

BrumBoo · 08/01/2021 09:14

I can see why the 'I dont understand why others don't!' part is a bit of a wind-up. I'd feel the same if I saw a parent say the same about their children loving a 5 mile jaunt without whinging, whilst mine throw a full strop being made to walk to the shop down the road.

When you have one who'd rather be back on the computer, and one who insisted on picking up every wet leaf, stick, dubious-looking lump on what should be a 20 round trip that turns into an hour, if I read 'I love walks with my kids, who wouldn't?', I'd probably mutter 'fuck off' at that post.

Pinkdelight3 · 08/01/2021 09:16

You could reply: "Oh dear, if you haven't got the insight or imagination to figure out why it's hard for people in other circumstances, then you're probably not teaching your kids very well!"

Onjnmoeiejducwoapy · 08/01/2021 09:18

Who are these people who voted “YABU”?!?!

Lweji · 08/01/2021 09:19

It is insensitive, but as insensitivity goes, I wouldn't give it much thought.
Not even remotely in the same category as saying she doesn't understand why anyone would be upset that a relative has died. That's what I would say was really insensitive.

Googlebrained · 08/01/2021 09:19

It's v annoying. It's like they believe everyone has the same situation as them but just doesn't try so hard/isn't so talented etc. What about parents who themselves have dyslexia, or whose children do? Or the children who aren't so compliant and just won't sit down and do the work outside of a classroom setting?

It's ok to say you enjoy it, although a bit smug, but to not understand why others don't? Just clotheared and goady.

Lweji · 08/01/2021 09:20

@Onjnmoeiejducwoapy

Who are these people who voted “YABU”?!?!
YABU as in: So, Yes: IABU as I shouldn't get wound up by idiots on FB
hansgrueber · 08/01/2021 09:20

@ThatBitch

There's one of these on my Facebook. She posts all her homeschooling activities on the village page with her 7yo who has written stories and illustrated them, baked bread, cakes and biscuits, learned pieces on the piano and cycled 20km in total over the last 2 days. I've hidden her posts. Good for her but I'm working my arse off in the hospital and dh is working his arse off in his critical worker job and the dc are dumped at school. I'm not letting her bother me.
I would reply thanking Hans Christian Anderson for their insightful contributions.
LyndaSnellsSniff · 08/01/2021 09:21

Depends on how many smug posts she follows up with. I’ve “hidden” some people on FB because they are annoying me with their smugness.

I’d be tempted to reply with “good for you! But remember, nobody likes a show off! 😄”

Winter2020 · 08/01/2021 09:24

My son is very conscientious at School (not bragging but for context) yesterday was the first day I tried to get him to do any real school work - after not bothering earlier in the week due to circumstances of me sleeping after night shift/with grandad etc

It caused rows all day as I asked him to get on with some work and every time I turned my back he found something else to do. He would say "you're not helping me" but when I ask what he needs help with he hasn't even got any work open (he is 11 and knows full well how to use the schools online learning platform).

I told him he had to work the evening as he had done nothing all day. (about an hours effort in total). Cue massive amounts of crying about how work was never going to end and begging to go to school.

I tried to tell him if he would just focus for one hour on maths, one on English and one on another subject that would be enough (in general not expecting that in the evening). That in theory he could start at 9 and be finished by 12. But in reality he cannot self motivate (despite being a very good boy at school) and if I want to avoid rows/crying/upset for both of us he is only going to be able to do a couple of hours each day while I sit helping him. (as I can't sit with him for more than that as have work night shifts/sleep/toddler)

I'm not prepared to put school work above both of our wellbeing so he won't be doing much. Perhaps we'll go out and call it PE.

I admire anyone making it work and their children but first and foremost parents and children ending up with depression through the pressures of homeschooling will be more damaging than the missed school work. So if they can't then they can't. If I had to work at home I think I would let them play all day and aim to support them with work an hour or two in the evening. (assuming that like my son they won't work without close supervision) Rather than stress all day.

I would just urge parents to put your childs wellbeing first and if all you are able to do with school work is an hour in the evening you are doing your best. I will try not to row over it today.

As for the posts I would love to reply "yes homeschool might be nice if you don't have to work much" but I wouldn't. Mute the person. It was probably a golden 5 minutes. Their park will be just as cold and muddy as ours.

IntermittentParps · 08/01/2021 09:24

YANBU. I'm pleased (genuinely) that she loves homeschooling, and of course she can say if she does; but if you don't understand why some people don't, you must be a bit lacking in empathy/imagination or just a bit dense. It's a rather aggressive thing to say as well.

ancientgran · 08/01/2021 09:27

Well it is a bit of balance isn't it. All the "their lives are ruined" "they are a lost generation" "their mental health is ruined if they can't go to school" "their development, their development" is getting a bit boring.

BQueen · 08/01/2021 09:27

Just reply with the laughing reaction if you’re feeling brave.

I’ve decided lots of people on here act like this on social media (see also: boasting on Instagram thread). That’s why they defend the behaviour.

YANBU OP, bet lots of other people reading her post are thinking the same.

Sewrainbow · 08/01/2021 09:28

Thing is she doesnt have to consider others' thoughts on her page if she doesn't want to. Otherwise nothing would be acceptable, pictures of children/parents/friends when other people have lost someone. Expressing joy in their garden when others live in a high rise. Living by the sea when other live in a city the list goes on.

The only acceptable thing to do is ignore it/hide them/delete facebook. So I'm afraid for that reason YABU.

And just as a side point to the pp who mentioned about teachers posting about more time for yoga that doesn't mean that they are neglecting their teaching. Like lots of people they have gained a bit of time with no commute.

GreeboIsMySpiritAnimal · 08/01/2021 09:31

I loved home schooling (last time around, struggling more this time) and I told no one, because I knew how hard most people were finding it, and also didn't have my advantages of not being able to work (I'm an actor, primarily theatre, I haven't worked in nearly a year Confused) and having naturally geeky kids who want to learn.

I kept it as my guilty secret. No one likes a gloater.

SpaceOp · 08/01/2021 09:34

It's not so much insensitive as bloody stupid. If I saw someone on my facebook with a comment like that I'd be rolling my eyes and DH and I would have a good little bitch fest about how said person is clearly thick as anything. Because anyone who can't understand why people don't like it, really is an idiot. The fact that she likes it is great, but until this post I didn't think you had to be a genius to work out that a good experience for one person is not necessarily being replicated for others.

MolyHolyGuacamole · 08/01/2021 09:37

Agree with PPs that it's the 'I don't understand' that makes it an issue. It's wilful ignorance.

Similar to a fb group I was in at the beginning of the first lockdown with women saying how they were SO pleased to be in lockdown with their SO's, who are their BEST FRIENDS and they're so sorry to anyone who's married to someone like that, and WHY would you be married to someone like that.

Being confined to your home was all honey dory for you? Great. But to act like it's your own fault for not having the perfect family life? Grossly insensitive at best, downright twatty at worst.

Some people get pleasure from feeling like they 'have it better' than others

GingerNorthernLass · 08/01/2021 09:38

Ah, don't you just love Facebook?!

AndcalloffChristmas · 08/01/2021 09:41

I thing she’s extremely insensitive and I’m surprised at the votes.

These are the kind of thoughts to think in your head, or share with close family or friends at most, not publish to a wide audience whose circumstances you don’t know.

The bit about not understanding why others don’t is staggering.

LeSangeEstDansLarbre · 08/01/2021 09:41

Social media has become a giant publicity machine for arseholes, hasn’t it?

Easiest not to engage, of course.

But if you want to you could point out that she’s not homeschooling at all, as long as the work is being provided by teachers; she is just supervising. If she wants to de register her child, plan, devise and deliver a curriculum and all the materials needed and get them through standard tests, then she might feel differently.

LindaEllen · 08/01/2021 09:42

Nothing wrong with having an opinion. I love working from home (always have, even before covid - 10 years and counting) and I'd tell people that if they asked, but I also recognise the challenges and would never brush off people who were struggling with it.

Heyahun · 08/01/2021 09:43

Meh !! I quite like lockdown life tbh - i get why loads don’t but I’ve had a lovely year! Everyone is different! Unfollow the woman if you don’t like hearing what she has to say 😂

GreySkyClouds · 08/01/2021 09:45

YABU not because she’s an idiot, but because you are the idiot for not being able to acknowledge that other people’s experiences may be better than yours.

This shouldn’t be a race to the bottom to price who has it worse. M9st people are struggling in different ways during this pandemic.

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